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[bill cobbett]

Oracles darl, why do you evn bother. People who cannot respect heritage regardless of where it comes from and take no responsibility for the vandalism. Are they ppl to be having a logocal discussion. NO. All I would like the TC's to say is yes sorry dudes our cypriot heritage has been done over during 74 lets see how we can make things better now.

I am not gonna hear that.

Sorry Humanist. I have condemned many times the utter destruction of these places of worship. I deplore all kinds of vandalism. The idiotic greedy bastards ought to rot in hell. There is no justification for destroying ones island heritage. Shame on all who condone these acts of barbarism.
Ialso condemn those on the otherside who also have destroyed Turkish places of worship. So far no one has accepted that these actions have taken place (vandalism of mosques).

Yes, I would also condemn all these acts of vandalism, in part fuelled by racist hatred, in part driven by greed, wherever they occur.

I do not know whether there is a corresponding link with mosques but the sad thing is that some of these very ordinary village churches like the one in Kalogrea were home to exquisite examples of the art of the icon. These were world class mosaics and paintings. CY really lossed something special when these were stolen and spirited overseas or vandalised by the iconoclasts.

Funny word 'iconoclasts' . First used for describing the europeans (probably other christians) who disapproved of icons..

Ofcourse the Greek/ Byzantine icons were more valuable so did attract the worse kind of treatment.

Hm...iconoclasts - an appropriate word ...and try as I might, I couldn't avoid the temptation of using it.

[Get Real!]

...troubles, complaints between two communities started earlier than 63 in Lapitos .

Greek Cypriot complains started from 1570 when your forefathers set foot here uninvited.

You still haven’t told us WHO gave you permission to come here…

Why are you asking us? we werent around then and no choice in the matter.

Well then quit moaning about 63 or any other year from the past for that matter. Just as you don’t feel responsible for anything that was done to the indigenous Cypriots all these centuries why should they give a rat’s arse about a bunch of criminals who came here uninvited to kill and steal, and who are apparently STILL causing trouble in their homeland?

The problem for us is not the past Ottomans but the current GCs who have shown they are still racist vegence seeking people who stop at nothing to eradicate the island of its TC population, thats why sageguards are paramount to ensure the mistakes of the past are not repeated.

The problem for us is both the past AND the present Ottomans who are the constant nuisance of our homeland. Your REAL home is just a minor boat trip away… TAKE IT!

The mistake from the past is YOUR PEOPLE setting their foot on this Cypriot land in the first place and playing games thereafter for some 400 years. Get out!

As for your "safeguards", go to Turkey where you’ll have them because here I piss on them big time.

Dont hold your breath you ignorant pig. No on second thoughts feel free to hold your breath as long as you want.

As a genuine Choirokitian Cypriot I stake my claim which is nothing less than my 10,000 year old inheritance; the ENTIRE island of Cyprus, so teach your children to swim with the flow or condemn them to extinction.

[Oracle]

Funny word 'iconoclasts' . First used for describing the europeans (probably other christians) who disapproved of icons..

Ofcourse the Greek/ Byzantine icons were more valuable so did attract the worse kind of treatment.

There are many forms of cataclysms carried out in the past .... the problem is Turks persist in doing them time and time again to this day!

BTW .... iconoclasm was first carried out by King Hezekiah who purged Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem, not the Europeans.

[denizaksulu]

Funny word 'iconoclasts' . First used for describing the europeans (probably other christians) who disapproved of icons..

Ofcourse the Greek/ Byzantine icons were more valuable so did attract the worse kind of treatment.

There are many forms of cataclysms carried out in the past .... the problem is Turks persist in doing them time and time again to this day!

BTW .... iconoclasm was first carried out by King Hezekiah who purged Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem, not the Europeans.

That may be true Oracle, but I was talking about the word itself and not the actions. Thanks for your valuable contribution.

[bill cobbett]

Re Kalogrea Icons.

Not all bad news on the stolen icon front.

This is a 15th century icon removed from the iconostasis of the Antiphonitis Greek Orthodox church in Occupied Kalogrea village. I am no "believer" but this one is a gem of the genre. A masterpiece in any language.



Apparently after removal from the church it was sold in London on the black market and recovered in Athens and returned to safety in CY in 1998.

[bill cobbett]

Well, not a village under Turkish Occupation but I felt the need to add it here in the roll call tonight if only because it makes me feel better.

Stroumbi, UnOccupied Paphos District

Located 15 kms north-east of Paphos, about half-way on the main road to Polis. Population of around 500 inhabitants and has been around since Medieval times. There's an Upper and Lower Stroumbi.

A vine growing village. There used to be two factories producing wine from the local grapes but both were destroyed in the earthquake of 1953 which devastated so much in Paphos District.

We broke our journey to the Akamas there this past Summer at a peripteron owned by a lovely and most welcoming couple. In the front courtyard we saw an exceptionally old olive tree. The owner told us that it was in excess of five hundred years old and was under a preservation order.

Here are some pictures of the village

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[Oracle]

We have a 700 year old Olive tree in Polis

But as I drive past, I shall salute Stroumbi the Great, and reduce my speed from 20 Km/h to 10 Km/h as a sign of respect for its latter day fallen heroes ....

[Get Real!]

Indeed, Stroumbi is famous for its fallen heroes and particularly those closer to God who ask and receive atonement so…

On behalf of the OCDC a minute's silence for the fallen ones!