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Postby tessintrnc » Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:56 am

Big Al wrote:
Oracle wrote:"None of us is dumber than all of us" is the most worrying and dangerous outcome of mob mentality.

However these "Polis" Turkish policemen were not a "mob" they worked individually, taking it in turns, moving their colleagues aside to have a bash as well.

Besides Police are meant to be trained against reacting to heightened emotions in crowd control tactics. Although we see many instances of 2 or 3 errant police losing themselves to their animal instincts it is unusual to see so many without anyone attempting to halt the escalation.

So it brings into question how exactly are the Turkish police trained to avoid becoming thugs?


Oracle,
This man had no business crossing into hostile territory, what did he expect some flowers and a welcome mat??
If this was an arab crossing into Israel they would have shot him dead within seconds. The moral of the story....dont tempt fate.


Big Al, all one has to do is type "greek police brutality" into ones search engine and Lo and Behold!!! MANY MANY sites where one can witness the "filthy animals" beating and torturing people. What a waste of time................dig deep enough and theres dirt everwhere - not just in Turkey. :roll:
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Postby boomerang » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:08 am

Ok Al, what is similar to the pictures and the video is that in both instances the police was involved...

Mate, there is no way in hell this sort, the video, could even be defended or tolerated in anyway shape or form...

As far as critisizing, well mate...nothing wrong with that...we are talking about a whole battalion of coppers beating up on women, a child, and an individual...non stop...

In your opinion who do you blame?...In my view it has to start from the top all the way to the bottom...some of these guys in the video kept on going, they go away and others stepped in...But no one came forward and protected this individual...

Can you imagine the uproar if it happened in OZ?...fuck the coppers would have been strung by there balls...
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Postby boomerang » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:55 am

tessintrnc wrote:
Big Al wrote:
Oracle wrote:"None of us is dumber than all of us" is the most worrying and dangerous outcome of mob mentality.

However these "Polis" Turkish policemen were not a "mob" they worked individually, taking it in turns, moving their colleagues aside to have a bash as well.

Besides Police are meant to be trained against reacting to heightened emotions in crowd control tactics. Although we see many instances of 2 or 3 errant police losing themselves to their animal instincts it is unusual to see so many without anyone attempting to halt the escalation.

So it brings into question how exactly are the Turkish police trained to avoid becoming thugs?


Oracle,
This man had no business crossing into hostile territory, what did he expect some flowers and a welcome mat??
If this was an arab crossing into Israel they would have shot him dead within seconds. The moral of the story....dont tempt fate.


Big Al, all one has to do is type "greek police brutality" into ones search engine and Lo and Behold!!! MANY MANY sites where one can witness the "filthy animals" beating and torturing people. What a waste of time................dig deep enough and theres dirt everwhere - not just in Turkey. :roll:


Here is one tess just to keep your mouth shut...the difference is the first video is condemning the police actions...

this is the first one that comes up in google...


This second is out of frustration of telling him to move 5 days in a row...


The first one is clearly condemned and the second, I personally would preffered it if I was the recepient rathen than getting whacked continously with a fucking stick...
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Postby observer » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:32 am

OK. It took me about a minute to google this:

Extract From:
Cyprus
Country Reports on Human Rights Practices - 2007
Released by the Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor
March 11, 2008

c. Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment or Punishment
The constitution and law prohibit such practices; however, there were reports that police abused detainees.
There continued to be reports that police engaged in heavy handed tactics and degrading treatment of suspects.
In January three Syrian immigrants (Imbrahim Kasem, Ahmad Kasem, and Ahmad Kasem) alleged that 10 police officers beat them shortly after they visited their former employer to demand payment of money due. They claimed that their car was intercepted by the officers, who beat them as they lay face down on the ground. Police then took them to Paphos police station, where they allegedly continued to beat them for several hours. A fourth Syrian immigrant, who was in the car at the time of the alleged beating, managed to escape. The immigrant support group Action for Equality, Support, Antiracism (KISA) filed a complaint with the Attorney General's Office and asked for an investigation. The police charged the three individuals with resisting arrest and hindering police officers from carrying out their duties. Authorities charged two with residing illegally in Cyprus and charged the driver of the car with reckless driving and driving without a license and insurance. Authorities released all three. KISA claimed that, had the three appeared in court, the judge would have seen their injuries and ordered an investigation. Independent investigators appointed by the attorney general decided that the criminal charges filed by the police against the immigrants should be withdrawn and that the immigrants should be deported. The independent investigators also decided that the case against the police officers involved in the incident should be "filed."
In January 2006 members of the police antinarcotics unit (YKAN) allegedly beat a Turkish Cypriot suspect during the execution of a search warrant at his house in Larnaca. A criminal investigation ordered by the chief of the police concluded that the police used the necessary force under the circumstances. Based on the results of the investigation, the attorney general declined criminal prosecution.
In March 2006 a police officer allegedly beat prisoner Georgios Georghiou in his cell. Authorities charged the officer with assault causing actual bodily harm. The case was set for a February 20 hearing. Police initiated disciplinary procedures against the officer, but they were interrupted in August 2006 when the ombudsman asked to review the case. In November 2006 the ombudsman's investigation was terminated because criminal charges were brought against the accused police officer. During the court hearing, Georghiou stated that he had no complaint against the police, and the court withdrew the charges against the officer. Following this development, the chief of police ordered the discontinuation of the disciplinary action.
In 2005 plainclothes police officers stopped two cars in Nicosia and proceeded to handcuff and beat the drivers, 27 year old students Marcos Papageorghiou and Yiannos Nicolaou. Authorities charged 11 police officers with numerous offenses, including assault and torture. The hearing of the case started in September 2006 and was ongoing at year's end.


So, do I now assume that all GCs are f***ing animals. No I assume that in both cases policemen have gone beyond what they are supposed to do.

If you can find more cases in Turkey, this could just be because Turkey has around 100 times the population.

I can't see the pont behind ghoulishly trawling news to find examples of people, police or not, breaking the law. Is it official government policy in either country, as it is in some countries? Of course it isn't.

And as for the continual use of "turkey=fascist state", grow up.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:48 am

Can someone click on "Turkey" in the link referring to what observer has posted regarding Cyprus ... I can't get the page to open, presumably it's overloading my system.

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2007/

I would go very carefully with accusing others on a day like today when once again we're reminded of the Armenian Genocide which the Turks wish would die a quiet death!
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Postby boomerang » Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:31 am

observer wrote:OK. It took me about a minute to google this:

Extract From:
Cyprus
Country Reports on Human Rights Practices - 2007
Released by the Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor
March 11, 2008

c. Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment or Punishment
The constitution and law prohibit such practices; however, there were reports that police abused detainees.
There continued to be reports that police engaged in heavy handed tactics and degrading treatment of suspects.
In January three Syrian immigrants (Imbrahim Kasem, Ahmad Kasem, and Ahmad Kasem) alleged that 10 police officers beat them shortly after they visited their former employer to demand payment of money due. They claimed that their car was intercepted by the officers, who beat them as they lay face down on the ground. Police then took them to Paphos police station, where they allegedly continued to beat them for several hours. A fourth Syrian immigrant, who was in the car at the time of the alleged beating, managed to escape. The immigrant support group Action for Equality, Support, Antiracism (KISA) filed a complaint with the Attorney General's Office and asked for an investigation. The police charged the three individuals with resisting arrest and hindering police officers from carrying out their duties. Authorities charged two with residing illegally in Cyprus and charged the driver of the car with reckless driving and driving without a license and insurance. Authorities released all three. KISA claimed that, had the three appeared in court, the judge would have seen their injuries and ordered an investigation. Independent investigators appointed by the attorney general decided that the criminal charges filed by the police against the immigrants should be withdrawn and that the immigrants should be deported. The independent investigators also decided that the case against the police officers involved in the incident should be "filed."
In January 2006 members of the police antinarcotics unit (YKAN) allegedly beat a Turkish Cypriot suspect during the execution of a search warrant at his house in Larnaca. A criminal investigation ordered by the chief of the police concluded that the police used the necessary force under the circumstances. Based on the results of the investigation, the attorney general declined criminal prosecution.
In March 2006 a police officer allegedly beat prisoner Georgios Georghiou in his cell. Authorities charged the officer with assault causing actual bodily harm. The case was set for a February 20 hearing. Police initiated disciplinary procedures against the officer, but they were interrupted in August 2006 when the ombudsman asked to review the case. In November 2006 the ombudsman's investigation was terminated because criminal charges were brought against the accused police officer. During the court hearing, Georghiou stated that he had no complaint against the police, and the court withdrew the charges against the officer. Following this development, the chief of police ordered the discontinuation of the disciplinary action.
In 2005 plainclothes police officers stopped two cars in Nicosia and proceeded to handcuff and beat the drivers, 27 year old students Marcos Papageorghiou and Yiannos Nicolaou. Authorities charged 11 police officers with numerous offenses, including assault and torture. The hearing of the case started in September 2006 and was ongoing at year's end.


So, do I now assume that all GCs are f***ing animals. No I assume that in both cases policemen have gone beyond what they are supposed to do.

If you can find more cases in Turkey, this could just be because Turkey has around 100 times the population.

I can't see the pont behind ghoulishly trawling news to find examples of people, police or not, breaking the law. Is it official government policy in either country, as it is in some countries? Of course it isn't.

And as for the continual use of "turkey=fascist state", grow up.


hahahahahaha...what a post...

Here is video of a whole fucking battalion of cops beating up
1... women while stomping them
2...breaking a kids arm
3...cornering a young man and taking turns in beating the shit out of him...
All in a days work I suppose...


All the faces are quite visible and you go on the defensive showing one article?...fucking hell man get a fucking life...

On a more important thing mister know all, while all the faces of the battalion are quite visible, has anyone got prosecuted? or is this the norm...why not tell me?

As fot the "turkey=fascist state" well what is wrong with the truth...She is a fucking state...Maybe if you were to take the blinkers off you might have a chance in seeing her for what she is...a fucking fascists state...for the fact that "turkey=fascsist state" has restriction of freedom of speech says a lot...but then again what we see here is brainwashing to the max...

Get used to it "turkey=fascists state" is a fascist state with all the bells and whisles...

Google "turkey fascist state"and tell me what you see...it hurts doesn't it


PS...only a true fascist can't see fascisism
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:11 pm

Is the norm for Turks to beat up the defenceless. I dont know how TC's can keep defending Turkey. They persicuted Amenians, Kurds, Greeks they now attack Iraq do I need to go on. End of the day if you dont do as Turkey wishes this is what you get.

Just one question to the TC's was the guy that shot the GC's climbing the pole ever prosecuted. How about the TC police who beat the poor GC to death were they ever presecuted and you say your scared of us.
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Postby unitedwestand » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:43 pm

This is really sad, but this sort of thing happens in all parts of the world. Remember Rodney King in America? The Italian police recently shot a football supporter.

The police force of many countries is made up of animals and Turkey is no different. These images are a disgrace, especially the bastard breaking that kids arm. I wish I could be there and spit in his face.
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Postby growuptcs » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:22 pm

UWS, Rodney King also made over 3.8million dollars for his racist beating. So saying it goes on in other countries is one thing, but not to prosecute police when theres a video in hand is another. I think Turkey has to grow up in the next couple of months so she could get her ass sued and move on.
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Postby unitedwestand » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:33 pm

growuptcs wrote:UWS, Rodney King also made over 3.8million dollars for his racist beating. So saying it goes on in other countries is one thing, but not to prosecute police when theres a video in hand is another. I think Turkey has to grow up in the next couple of months so she could get her ass sued and move on.


If I had the means I would prosecute every one of these bastards. The evidence is there so why not deal with these scumbags?

This is one good reason for Turkey to join the EU. Unless they are shown how to treat their citizens they'll never learn.
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