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My preferred political solution for Cyprus is…

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

My preferred political solution for Cyprus is…

1. An internationally recognized & independent TC state.
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19%
2. Separate zones and communities, under a federation.
9
21%
3. A return to the exact 1959 London/Zurich agreements.
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No votes
4. A London/Zurich arrangement with modifications.
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2%
5. A single, united, democratic, one-man one-vote Republic.
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55%
6. Status Quo – The situation to remain as is for now…
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No votes
7. Other solution... (Please state)
1
2%
 
Total votes : 42

Postby Get Real! » Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:54 pm

Bananiot wrote:Not as simple as that Nikitas, surely you understand this. It is absolutely impossible to send ALL settlers back home as Paphitis suggests in his ingenious plan. Any plan we agree to, will cater for 50 or even more thousand settlers staying in Cyprus. Some people were calling for the Cyprus issue to be solved as quickly as possible after 1974 because they foresaw this problem but as usual the voices of sanity always fall on deaf ears. Back then we could have got a much better solution too!


Bananiot, it looks like you're having a field day "convincing" everyone that...

1. Only the division of Cyprus is proper & acceptable.

2. It is absolutely impossible to remove illegally imported Turks.

…without justifying your sweeping statements!

With such adamancy, I sincerely hope you won’t be offended if I am ever tempted to ask who issues your "other" monthly pay-cheque… :?
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:09 pm

Bananiot wrote:Not as simple as that Nikitas, surely you understand this. It is absolutely impossible to send ALL settlers back home as Paphitis suggests in his ingenious plan. Any plan we agree to, will cater for 50 or even more thousand settlers staying in Cyprus. Some people were calling for the Cyprus issue to be solved as quickly as possible after 1974 because they foresaw this problem but as usual the voices of sanity always fall on deaf ears. Back then we could have got a much better solution too!


This is rubbish!

On what basis, on what principle and on what rule of law do we have to accept 50 or 30 or 10 or even 2 thousands settlers? And here we are not talking about people simply staying behind to work. We are talking about granting citizenship to them! I have posted to you this question many times, and you always failed to answer it. Had Turkey allowed one million settlers to come to Cyprus, would you have accepted that all or most of this one million should stay and be given citizenship? At least state the principle to be followed in allowing some of these people citizenship, instead of accommodating wholesale the Turkish desires and aims! You are incomprehensible in most cases, to say the least, and the most unprincipled GC I ever met in my life! You are ready to pull down your pants and bend on anything the Turks may ask for the sake of their illegitimate irredentist aspirations!


I only hope your unacceptable “give away” views are not shared by those of your party line that found their way into the various committees to negotiate the solution of the Cyprus issue; otherwise we are heading towards a disaster!
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:12 pm

I am offended by your stupidity GR. Just like Piratis you have not realised that since February 17 people can say their opinion freely and democratically and the opposite view is vilified no more. Now, please tell us how the hell we can send all the Turks back to the mainland without actually winning a war.
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:15 pm

Bananiot wrote:I am offended by your stupidity GR. Just like Piratis you have not realised that since February 17 people can say their opinion freely and democratically and the opposite view is vilified no more. Now, please tell us how the hell we can send all the Turks back to the mainland without actually winning a war.


This is just another rubbish statement that shows you have absolutely no arguments to defend your views!
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:17 pm

Bananiot wrote:I am offended by your stupidity GR. Just like Piratis you have not realised that since February 17 people can say their opinion freely and democratically and the opposite view is vilified no more. Now, please tell us how the hell we can send all the Turks back to the mainland without actually winning a war.

You have my apologies. Should I assume that henceforth you'll assist me and others in the promotion of democracy in Cyprus?
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:20 pm

Kifeas you are offending the democratically elected President of Cyprus who agreed that about 40 000 settlers will eventually stay. How dare you not support the democratically elected President. I think you must be an agent of the Turks.
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:23 pm

Are there more Cypriots in this forum that believe that any solution should entail the removal of all settlers from Cyprus? Have we been wasting our time discussing with these cloud climbers?
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Postby umit07 » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:25 pm

Bananiot wrote:Kifeas you are offending the democratically elected President of Cyprus who agreed that about 40 000 settlers will eventually stay. How dare you not support the democratically elected President. I think you must be an agent of the Turks.



When did Mr X. ever say 40k settlers would stay?
Talat was saying many things prior to being elected which he would not dare say today.
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:25 pm

Bananiot wrote:Kifeas you are offending the democratically elected President of Cyprus who agreed that about 40 000 settlers will eventually stay. How dare you not support the democratically elected President. I think you must be an agent of the Turks.


He agreed with whom, where and when? What was the exchange for making such an illegitimate concession to the Turkish side? I can only forgive such a move, if what was offered in exchange had a similar impact! I ask you again, why 40, and not 50? Why 40, and not 20 thousands? Why 50, and not 80 thousands? Can you tell us?
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:32 pm

Bananiot wrote:Are there more Cypriots in this forum that believe that any solution should entail the removal of all settlers from Cyprus? Have we been wasting our time discussing with these cloud climbers?


Bananiot, are the TCs ready to accept that we should also have the right to grand citizenship to all the Greek Pontians, Russians and Georgians that currently reside in Cyprus? Are they ready to accept that we should have the right to import and grand citizenship to as many as 200,000 non-Cypriots, because that is the number that corresponds for the GC community, in comparison to the 40 thousand settlers for the TC community? Are they ready, and if not, why? Answer at least one of the tens of questions that I put to you every day!
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