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[boomerang]

Wait till you get to OZ, then you'll know what a real beach looks like.

I totally agree...don't know about Bondi though...I prefer Melbourne beaches, and I don't mean the bay...Colder yes but in my opinion cleaner especially the western side, Lorne way...

Great surf...

trust a victorian to say that!! cleanliness in sydney is on par with melbourne (if we take botany bay and cronulla out of the equation). Between the two cities i think we can find more than a dozen beaches better than anything cyprus has to offer..i dont think much a beaches that dont have white sand.

True our beaches rock...

What I don't like is surfless beaches...love the surf...

And don't get me started on the fishing

Boomers,
Another thing we have in common, im an addicted fisherman also. Dont know how your summer was in Melbourne but this year i managed to catch several Kingfish upto 80cm long and several Jewfish upto 15kg's. Even though the summer wasnt very hot, the fishing was great. How did you fare in Melbourne??

Excellent mate...excellent...

This year I didn't do much sea fishing and the truth is not very good apart from a few atlantic salmons...I was chasing trout instead which I neglected for some time now...I managed to get a fair few 2 to 5 kgs wading a few isolated streams...Catch and release of cource....

I think fishing in Sydney is much better than Melbourne...

If you ever get a chance lob over to Darwin and fish the bay...The best fishing ever...Fishing on top of the mangroves at high tide is a total buzz...as long as you don't stick your feet in the water...

I'll keep that in mind, and if you ever visit sydney during the summer months you have to go up the coast to port stephens, the best marlin fishing other than cairns. I have managed a couple of striped marlin over the 100kg mark. It took over an hour to bring them to the boat but the biggest thrill of my life, absolutely buggered afterward though. In the winter yellow fin tuna is great fun too, but they only get to the 40-50kg mark in sydney.

I used to drive to Sydney a couple of years back every month...an excellent drive by the way, if you like zooming around...

If i ever come up again and have a spare weekend I will be calling you...rest assure

I fished for tuna in Tassie a few years back and that was a total buzz...

[Big Al]

Wait till you get to OZ, then you'll know what a real beach looks like.

I totally agree...don't know about Bondi though...I prefer Melbourne beaches, and I don't mean the bay...Colder yes but in my opinion cleaner especially the western side, Lorne way...

Great surf...

trust a victorian to say that!! cleanliness in sydney is on par with melbourne (if we take botany bay and cronulla out of the equation). Between the two cities i think we can find more than a dozen beaches better than anything cyprus has to offer..i dont think much a beaches that dont have white sand.

True our beaches rock...

What I don't like is surfless beaches...love the surf...

And don't get me started on the fishing

Boomers,
Another thing we have in common, im an addicted fisherman also. Dont know how your summer was in Melbourne but this year i managed to catch several Kingfish upto 80cm long and several Jewfish upto 15kg's. Even though the summer wasnt very hot, the fishing was great. How did you fare in Melbourne??

Excellent mate...excellent...

This year I didn't do much sea fishing and the truth is not very good apart from a few atlantic salmons...I was chasing trout instead which I neglected for some time now...I managed to get a fair few 2 to 5 kgs wading a few isolated streams...Catch and release of cource....

I think fishing in Sydney is much better than Melbourne...

If you ever get a chance lob over to Darwin and fish the bay...The best fishing ever...Fishing on top of the mangroves at high tide is a total buzz...as long as you don't stick your feet in the water...

I'll keep that in mind, and if you ever visit sydney during the summer months you have to go up the coast to port stephens, the best marlin fishing other than cairns. I have managed a couple of striped marlin over the 100kg mark. It took over an hour to bring them to the boat but the biggest thrill of my life, absolutely buggered afterward though. In the winter yellow fin tuna is great fun too, but they only get to the 40-50kg mark in sydney.

I used to drive to Sydney a couple of years back every month...an excellent drive by the way, if you like zooming around...

If i ever come up again and have a spare weekend I will be calling you...rest assure

I fished for tuna in Tassie a few years back and that was a total buzz...

anytime mate

[tessintrnc]

humanist, blame the seller not the buyer, not all brits are stupid enough to buy greek owned land.

The estate agents are to blame for a lot of this misconception that "exchange" land is "safe". It was put to the buyers that the Turkish Cypriot selling the land exchanged it for land in the South. The thing that wasn't pointed out was the fact the Greek Cypriot involved DID NOT AGREE to this at all!!! Cheap villa - don't delve too deep in the "why" they are cheaper than would seem logical - that is sadly the attitude of many that want to own a piece of Paradise. Its a huge mess and will not solved easily or probably fairly, for those concerned.
Tess

[Nikitas]

Cyprus is not in Patagonia, it is a place that has been in the news often in Britain, so the Brits who buy in the TRNC know what they are dealing with. The excuse "I did not know" does not work in this case. They know they are getting stolen goods.

And I really love the description "exchange land" , it is a classic!

[tessintrnc]

Cyprus is not in Patagonia, it is a place that has been in the news often in Britain, so the Brits who buy in the TRNC know what they are dealing with. The excuse "I did not know" does not work in this case. They know they are getting stolen goods.

And I really love the description "exchange land" , it is a classic!

Yes, its the old "pounds versus principles" and the "blind eye" syndrom.

[Sega]

Do you, or do you not accept the FACT that some villages in the North are, and always have been owned by Turkish Cypriots?

Interesting question.

Where else in the World are villages owned by a certain community?

An anachronism from our legacy with our Colonial past?

Certainly an apartheid that tess is comfortable with. Anybody else?

Villages belong to the community. If the community happens to be TC, then in essence the village belongs to the TC. This is similar with all villages. Since the TC has been misplaced in the villages, they are in essence living on borrowed land, until of course they come back to their homes. If the land that the TC lived was not illegal taken from a GC, and that village did not belong to anybody, then it might be considered as a TC village.

This is all I can say about your question. Personally, I could not care about politics, people are people, good people and bad people everywhere.

As for the Brits who buy in TRNC, you are idiots!!!! Don't bother saying you did not know either, the British Army was part of the devision, so you should know!!

[Oracle]

Cyprus is not in Patagonia, it is a place that has been in the news often in Britain, so the Brits who buy in the TRNC know what they are dealing with. The excuse "I did not know" does not work in this case. They know they are getting stolen goods.

And I really love the description "exchange land" , it is a classic!

Yes, its the old "pounds versus principles" and the "blind eye" syndrom.

We know you blindly disregard any principles .....

[tessintrnc]

Cyprus is not in Patagonia, it is a place that has been in the news often in Britain, so the Brits who buy in the TRNC know what they are dealing with. The excuse "I did not know" does not work in this case. They know they are getting stolen goods.

And I really love the description "exchange land" , it is a classic!

Yes, its the old "pounds versus principles" and the "blind eye" syndrom.

We know you blindly disregard any principles .....

You are damned LIAR!! Where in ANY of my posts have I EVER condoned or agreed to people buying Greek owned land or property?? Just because I do not blindly hate all things Turkish you launch your bullying hateful attacks, so come on BIG mouth , ANSWER PLEASE!!!

[bill cobbett]

i think lots of them have taken the chance for investment, as if you get a copy of cyprus today news paper you will see them moaning about everything, its clear they don't like cyprus. some people ran from other countries to avoid the law. some are just stupid and didn't know any different. lots of brits here are of pension age and they trusted the lawyers and agents. some of us spent 3 years finding the right property, and sleep well at night! we have turkish cypriot friend in the uk so we did get some advice. the estate agents only want to sell property built by the developers cos they get better commision, they don't care about what land the propertys on. if a house comes on to the market we always ask our friend in the village, he knows whats what and if its in places like karmi, he would advise to avoid it as it was probably left by a greek cypriot owner. so not everyone here in the north is dealing in greek cypriot owned houses. lots of people in my village would be happy for a cyprus solution.

Thanks R&S. Being human, we must have a degree of sympathy for those who have bought stupidly or in ignorance and I'm sure there are some who fall into this bracket. It can't be very nice to have worked for many, many years and to have bought a dream retirement home in the sun and to be facing, at worst, the worry of eviction.

Some members might do well to bear in mind that not all have lived and breathed the Turkish Problem for several decades and to be as aware of the situation in Cy as say members of this forum and this "exchange" deeds scam can sound plausible and very convincing. I ain't saying that this should be an excuse, merely that we should be sympathetic. Perhaps the same sort of basic human sympathy that those of us who have been evicted from our homes and lands in the north would expect.

I also have to say that to a large degree the GB government is partly to blame in this mess ( as it has been in the Turkish Problem in so many other ways ) in that if you look at the Foreign Office advice on their website, it still does not condemn or give sufficient warning (imho) of the dangers of buying some categories of land in the north. The advise there, the last time I looked, remains, despite the problems some GBs now face in the north, merely to take legal advice!

[Oracle]

Cyprus is not in Patagonia, it is a place that has been in the news often in Britain, so the Brits who buy in the TRNC know what they are dealing with. The excuse "I did not know" does not work in this case. They know they are getting stolen goods.

And I really love the description "exchange land" , it is a classic!

Yes, its the old "pounds versus principles" and the "blind eye" syndrom.

We know you blindly disregard any principles .....

You are damned LIAR!! Where in ANY of my posts have I EVER condoned or agreed to people buying Greek owned land or property?? Just because I do not blindly hate all things Turkish you launch your bullying hateful attacks, so come on BIG mouth , ANSWER PLEASE!!!

...... have you moved from the "trnc" then?

By what principles do you enjoy advertising it in your name?

Rubbing salt in the wounds of those who are constantly reminded of the illegitimate regime by your bombastic disregard, suggests you are a hypocrite no less, if principles you would have us believe apply to you and yours.