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[GeorgeV97qaue]

Turkey remaining outside the EU would be a disaster for the future of Cyprus and the generations to come.
It is prudently and imperatively essential that negotiations for entry into the EU continue , and that Greece and Cyprus continue to support Turkeys efforts to meet the preconditions laid down by the EU , WHILE AT THE SAME TIME CONTINUE INSISTING THAT TURKEY ABIDES BY THE EU DIRECTIVES IN RECOGNISING A MEMBER STATE.
The EU can not and must not change its rules to suit Turkeys belligerent position.

I agree but Turkey always expects everyone else to go by their rules. Turkey must always have it her way. When you have the most powerfull nation in the world supporting you (USA) You become arrogant.

[pantheman]

Would you rather have Turkey outside the tent pissing in (Cyprus) and pissing around as well (Iraq, Armenia, Kurdistan) etc ? Or would you rather have Turkey inside the tent not pissing at all ?

Copperline I comend you for sticking up for your fellow countrymen, but it is not as dandy as you would like us to think. At the moment Turkey maybe pissing this way, but get her in and she will be shitting all over the place, with the rest of the EU rolling around in her crap.

Until Turkey can learn the basic priciples of civilisation, not to mention human rights abuses, lack of democracy and so on then there is no hope for her.

I would be very surprised if she was ever in a position to join, let alone this side of the next 20 years.

[Viewpoint]

Turkey remaining outside the EU would be a disaster for the future of Cyprus and the generations to come.
It is prudently and imperatively essential that negotiations for entry into the EU continue , and that Greece and Cyprus continue to support Turkeys efforts to meet the preconditions laid down by the EU , WHILE AT THE SAME TIME CONTINUE INSISTING THAT TURKEY ABIDES BY THE EU DIRECTIVES IN RECOGNISING A MEMBER STATE.
The EU can not and must not change its rules to suit Turkeys belligerent position.

The majority of GCs cannot see that their EU leverage is not effective if Turkey does not maintain an EU perspective, if the EU turns its back on Turkey she will not give a shit about compromising on the Cyprus issue to get into the EU. The GCs are doing a great job of yet again cutting off their noses despite their faces.

[boomerang]

Boomerang American needs Turkey so she will never be called an axis of evil. Turkey knows this so she keeps flexing her muscles on her weaker neighbours. Cyprus, Iraq. She wont try anything against Greece because she know she could get an arse whipping. They only pick on weaker nations.

Who know when our oil starts to flow what Americas stance will be then. But knowing America they love oil that may be our window where we can finally nail Turkey.

Meetings usually starts like this


and they finish like this

[Viewpoint]

Would you rather have Turkey outside the tent pissing in (Cyprus) and pissing around as well (Iraq, Armenia, Kurdistan) etc ? Or would you rather have Turkey inside the tent not pissing at all ?

Copperline I comend you for sticking up for your fellow countrymen, but it is not as dandy as you would like us to think. At the moment Turkey maybe pissing this way, but get her in and she will be shitting all over the place, with the rest of the EU rolling around in her crap.

Until Turkey can learn the basic priciples of civilisation, not to mention human rights abuses, lack of democracy and so on then there is no hope for her.

I would be very surprised if she was ever in a position to join, let alone this side of the next 20 years.

The EU have recently concluded a visit and report on Turkey and the changes necessary to move forward are being made, the EU was so surprised at progress that 20 years has now become 7-8, all you focus on are the negatives and not the reforms which are starting to take hold. Even on the Cyprus issue they have been the most positive party to stay open to supporting negotiations under the UN.

[GeorgeV97qaue]

Veiwpoint even if Turkey did join the EU she will not give up Cyprus. The only way Turkey will leave cyprus is by force. Unfortunatly we the Republic Of Cyprus are not strong enough to take her on.

But who know what will happen in the future when we get our black gold. American may well change her stance and when American changes her point of veiw you what happens. Look at Saddam he was once Americas Freind now he's gone.

[boomerang]

Turkey remaining outside the EU would be a disaster for the future of Cyprus and the generations to come.
It is prudently and imperatively essential that negotiations for entry into the EU continue , and that Greece and Cyprus continue to support Turkeys efforts to meet the preconditions laid down by the EU , WHILE AT THE SAME TIME CONTINUE INSISTING THAT TURKEY ABIDES BY THE EU DIRECTIVES IN RECOGNISING A MEMBER STATE.
The EU can not and must not change its rules to suit Turkeys belligerent position.

The majority of GCs cannot see that their EU leverage is not effective if Turkey does not maintain an EU perspective, if the EU turns its back on Turkey she will not give a shit about compromising on the Cyprus issue to get into the EU. The GCs are doing a great job of yet again cutting off their noses despite their faces.

Actually from another perspective, it just might work out ok...maybe with a bit of luck a civil war?...Fascism dies, she gets carved up, democracy reigns and everyone is happy...You can't exclude this scenario

[boomerang]

Would you rather have Turkey outside the tent pissing in (Cyprus) and pissing around as well (Iraq, Armenia, Kurdistan) etc ? Or would you rather have Turkey inside the tent not pissing at all ?

Copperline I comend you for sticking up for your fellow countrymen, but it is not as dandy as you would like us to think. At the moment Turkey maybe pissing this way, but get her in and she will be shitting all over the place, with the rest of the EU rolling around in her crap.

Until Turkey can learn the basic priciples of civilisation, not to mention human rights abuses, lack of democracy and so on then there is no hope for her.

I would be very surprised if she was ever in a position to join, let alone this side of the next 20 years.

The EU have recently concluded a visit and report on Turkey and the changes necessary to move forward are being made, the EU was so surprised at progress that 20 years has now become 7-8, all you focus on are the negatives and not the reforms which are starting to take hold. Even on the Cyprus issue they have been the most positive party to stay open to supporting negotiations under the UN.

And the joke continues...7 to 8 years...says who?

ok you know the drill... LINKS

[pantheman]

Would you rather have Turkey outside the tent pissing in (Cyprus) and pissing around as well (Iraq, Armenia, Kurdistan) etc ? Or would you rather have Turkey inside the tent not pissing at all ?

Copperline I comend you for sticking up for your fellow countrymen, but it is not as dandy as you would like us to think. At the moment Turkey maybe pissing this way, but get her in and she will be shitting all over the place, with the rest of the EU rolling around in her crap.

Until Turkey can learn the basic priciples of civilisation, not to mention human rights abuses, lack of democracy and so on then there is no hope for her.

I would be very surprised if she was ever in a position to join, let alone this side of the next 20 years.

The EU have recently concluded a visit and report on Turkey and the changes necessary to move forward are being made, the EU was so surprised at progress that 20 years has now become 7-8, all you focus on are the negatives and not the reforms which are starting to take hold. Even on the Cyprus issue they have been the most positive party to stay open to supporting negotiations under the UN.

They must be feeding you on brainwash ceriel or something. You can't believe that surely. You own government is about to get closed down by the AG, your military bosses are dictating to the democratically elected government, you are about to pass laws to ban foreigners owning property, you cannot speak freely of fear of getting killed, FFS VP, what else should I say, and you reckon this country is ready, no mate it isn't.

The list of violation is endless, give us all a break, if your beloved turkey didn't want to join she would have said it ages ago. So please don't keep on insulting our inteligence with these scaremongering comments. Turk is not , will not and could not be ready to join and certainly not within the next 20 years. I am willing to bet you on that.

[miltiades]

Veiwpoint even if Turkey did join the EU she will not give up Cyprus. The only way Turkey will leave cyprus is by force. Unfortunatly we the Republic Of Cyprus are not strong enough to take her on.

But who know what will happen in the future when we get our black gold. American may well change her stance and when American changes her point of veiw you what happens. Look at Saddam he was once Americas Freind now he's gone.

George , I think you should contact GR he has excellent rapport with Blackwater , you know the mercenaries !!!
Who the hell is going to force Turkey out of Cyprus by force ?
Grow up and don't be bloody ridiculous , negotiations , entry of Turkey into Europe , closer ties with our T/C compatriots that is the way forward not a bloody war that we shall lose !!