Murataga wrote:BirKibrisli wrote:Nikitas wrote:Bir said:
"And assuming that I am wrong,and the balance of power changes,and Cyprus and her allies manage to "nail Turkey" as someone put it....What kind of nailing would that be???? The killing of 50 Million Turks??? Sending half back to central asia in another version of ethnic cleansing??? Do some of you guys and gals engage your brains before you open your mouths???"
It is not a question of destroying Turkey or changing its borders etc. It is simply a matter of getting Turkey to act like normal nations act. For that to happen Turkey needs to change this self image it has as the most important power in the region. Things like violating Greek air and sea space on a daily basis, bullying the Syrians over water rights, joining up with the Israelis to shove Arabs about, this is the kind of thing that is bothersome.
The goal is a nation where the chiefs of the military are selected by the government, and where the government can dismiss any military bigshot any time. When that is done the rest will follow.
There is a saying in Turkish,Nikitas,which you might know already. "A Turk's friend can only be another Turk"...This sums up the paranoid mindset which is very common in Turkey.
How many countries` citizens located close to where Turkey is, feel as you feel about national security in Australia? Turkey is situated right in the middle of the Balkans, Caucasians and the Middle-East… Three regions that have been and to an extent currently is the stage for the harshest and longest conflicts on the face of the planet.
BirKibrisli wrote:Despite her image abroad,Turkey is really a nation of extreme self-doubt and insecurity...That is the primary reason they hang onto American skirts as if their life depends on it...
So, are the U.K., Italy and Spain nations of “extreme self-doubt and insecurity”, for “hanging on to the skirts” of U.S. in its recent intervention to Iraq (not to mention Turkey refused providing any military base use for launching offensives and troop support despite extreme pressure)? International relations are an intrigue web and with your above analysis you are only oversimplifying a selective part of it. Every country has allies, every country needs allies, and every country tries to act together with her allies. The stronger your allies are and the better you can cooperate with them the better off you are. There is nothing wrong about any of this. Nevertheless, if you had a true sense of the mindset of the people in Turkey you would know very well how resentful they are about the U.S. and its policies in the region.
I will not give you a lecture on the Turkey-USA alliance,Murataga...
I'd recommend a book though (Ozel Harp Dairesi-Turkiye'nin Gizli Tarihi- by Ecevit Kilic). It is an eye-opener,with an interesting chapter on TMT activities run by Turkey with the blessing of America...