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[Oracle]

I think it's high time we gave the Turks the respect they deserve as fellow Human beings and thinking sentient mature higher animals ..... like all us Homo sapiens.

In which case they had better start behaving in a more civilised fashion and follow the habits of the rest of us in creating a better world for all.

No more treating Turks with reverence, as though they can go around behaving as they wish regardless of the Laws, and we all turn around and shush each other so that we do not offend them.

How are they going to learn the difference between right and wrong, and hence improve, if we don't make them aware.

Respect the Turk enough to tell him the truth about the unacceptability of his actions; no matter how much he is offended. We owe it to Humanity.

..... but as for letting them join the EU ..... Never!

.... ultimately the real essence of community lies less in the significance of physical structures and more in a series of fluid social interactions, underpinned by a shared code of cultural norms and values....

[tessintrnc]

I think it's high time we gave the Turks the respect they deserve as fellow Human beings and thinking sentient mature higher animals ..... like all us Homo sapiens.

In which case they had better start behaving in a more civilised fashion and follow the habits of the rest of us in creating a better world for all.

No more treating Turks with reverence, as though they can go around behaving as they wish regardless of the Laws, and we all turn around and shush each other so that we do not offend them.

How are they going to learn the difference between right and wrong, and hence improve, if we don't make them aware.

Respect the Turk enough to tell him the truth about the unacceptability of his actions; no matter how much he is offended. We owe it to Humanity.

..... but as for letting them join the EU ..... Never!

.... ultimately the real essence of community lies less in the significance of physical structures and more in a series of fluid social interactions, underpinned by a shared code of cultural norms and values....

Hmmmm.......Interesting comment, but Greece was allowed to join the EU despite the ethnic cleansing and genocide of Macedonians in Northern Greece weren't they

[purdey]

I think most countries in the EU have had a go at Ethnic Cleansing at one time or another..

[tessintrnc]

I think most countries in the EU have had a go at Ethnic Cleansing at one time or another..

Exactly - I said it before - dig deep enough and you always find dirt. Turkey has a lot of hard work to do before joining and maybe they never will - who knows?
Tess

[pantheman]

I think it's high time we gave the Turks the respect they deserve as fellow Human beings and thinking sentient mature higher animals ..... like all us Homo sapiens.

In which case they had better start behaving in a more civilised fashion and follow the habits of the rest of us in creating a better world for all.

No more treating Turks with reverence, as though they can go around behaving as they wish regardless of the Laws, and we all turn around and shush each other so that we do not offend them.

How are they going to learn the difference between right and wrong, and hence improve, if we don't make them aware.

Respect the Turk enough to tell him the truth about the unacceptability of his actions; no matter how much he is offended. We owe it to Humanity.

..... but as for letting them join the EU ..... Never!

.... ultimately the real essence of community lies less in the significance of physical structures and more in a series of fluid social interactions, underpinned by a shared code of cultural norms and values....

Hmmmm.......Interesting comment, but Greece was allowed to join the EU despite the ethnic cleansing and genocide of Macedonians in Northern Greece weren't they

In other words trashinshit, you agree turkey has ethnically cleansed the GC and genocided the Kurds, buts thats OK, because the greeks done it too, so it must be right??

Daft cow, at least you could start by condemning their actions, asking forviveness and then maybe then, the rest of the world might just thibnk about letting them in.

Just goes to show how corrupt your minds are, you don't know right from wrong, FFS woman, you claim to be a catholic too! Where the hell is aiden when you need him to recite his curses.

[observer]

In other words trashinshit, you agree turkey has ethnically cleansed the GC and genocided the Kurds, buts thats OK, because the greeks done it too, so it must be right??

Daft cow, at least you could start by condemning their actions, asking forviveness and then maybe then, the rest of the world might just thibnk about letting them in.

Just goes to show how corrupt your minds are, you don't know right from wrong, FFS woman, you claim to be a catholic too! Where the hell is aiden when you need him to recite his curses.

... and there speaks the authentic voice of those who have committed genocide down the centuries.[/quote]

[CopperLine]

For those who describe Turkey in unremittingly negative terms, who describe Turks in essentially racist terms, there is a simple question for you regarding the EU :

Would you rather have Turkey outside the tent pissing in (Cyprus) and pissing around as well (Iraq, Armenia, Kurdistan) etc ? Or would you rather have Turkey inside the tent not pissing at all ?

If the conditions of EU membership are indeed a serious reform of the state and if Turkey meets those criteria then surely it should be welcomes with open arms ? If the conditions of EU membership prove difficult to fulfil then surely one would want to give Turkey as much encouragement and support in actually fulfilling those conditions rather than ... pissing on Turkey for its efforts ?

[Oracle]

I think it's high time we gave the Turks the respect they deserve as fellow Human beings and thinking sentient mature higher animals ..... like all us Homo sapiens.

In which case they had better start behaving in a more civilised fashion and follow the habits of the rest of us in creating a better world for all.

No more treating Turks with reverence, as though they can go around behaving as they wish regardless of the Laws, and we all turn around and shush each other so that we do not offend them.

How are they going to learn the difference between right and wrong, and hence improve, if we don't make them aware.

Respect the Turk enough to tell him the truth about the unacceptability of his actions; no matter how much he is offended. We owe it to Humanity.

..... but as for letting them join the EU ..... Never!

.... ultimately the real essence of community lies less in the significance of physical structures and more in a series of fluid social interactions, underpinned by a shared code of cultural norms and values....

Hmmmm.......Interesting comment, but Greece was allowed to join the EU despite the ethnic cleansing and genocide of Macedonians in Northern Greece weren't they

In other words trashinshit, you agree turkey has ethnically cleansed the GC and genocided the Kurds, buts thats OK, because the greeks done it too, so it must be right??

Daft cow, at least you could start by condemning their actions, asking forviveness and then maybe then, the rest of the world might just thibnk about letting them in.

Just goes to show how corrupt your minds are, you don't know right from wrong, FFS woman, you claim to be a catholic too! Where the hell is aiden when you need him to recite his curses.

Pantheman ... tess is trying to deflect from what we are really talking about.

Which is that Turkey is currently occupying by force a part of the EU, and is currently maintaining ethnic cleansing in a European country, and is currently responsible for keeping a European Capital City still divided.

That is the difference Irish tessinshittrncturkey ..... Turkey is at this very moment perpetrating Human Rights abuses amongst EU citizens ...

We need many new threads to cover Turkey's atrocities of the past ...

So stick to what they are carrying out this very moment which needs rectifying NOW!.....

[GeorgeV97qaue]

Turkey are the worst offenders of all. If your not a Turk you are the enemy thats the way they view everyone else. The only reason they are allowed to get away with it is due their strategic location.

The Americans cant afford to piss them off so they turn a blind eye to all their crimes. One day America will turn her back on Turkey. When that happens Turkey will pay.

[Oracle]

For those who describe Turkey in unremittingly negative terms, who describe Turks in essentially racist terms, there is a simple question for you regarding the EU :

Would you rather have Turkey outside the tent pissing in (Cyprus) and pissing around as well (Iraq, Armenia, Kurdistan) etc ? Or would you rather have Turkey inside the tent not pissing at all ?

If the conditions of EU membership are indeed a serious reform of the state and if Turkey meets those criteria then surely it should be welcomes with open arms ? If the conditions of EU membership prove difficult to fulfil then surely one would want to give Turkey as much encouragement and support in actually fulfilling those conditions rather than ... pissing on Turkey for its efforts ?

The EU is not a Charity mop for strays and waifs that have fallen through their own actions into the gutter.

Turkey just wants to join Europe in order to destroy it from within ... hence the support it gets from envious USA.