Cyprus-Forum.com

[Get Real!]

Just wait until the first TC refugees court case comes up in front of the ECHR and the "RoC" is put up on the stand by TC lawyers, having to explain themselves as to why TCs have not been given the right to enjoy their properties in the "RoC" this will be very intersting.

If these TC lawyers are of the same caliber as your best debaters on our forum then I honestly can’t see you winning any cases…

[Viewpoint]

Just wait until the first TC refugees court case comes up in front of the ECHR and the "RoC" is put up on the stand by TC lawyers, having to explain themselves as to why TCs have not been given the right to enjoy their properties in the "RoC" this will be very intersting.

If these TC lawyers are of the same caliber as your best debaters on our forum then I honestly can’t see you winning any cases…

No they are much better and more informed of the past and the tricks and turns the GCs can take, they are educated in Turkey, USA and UK, good luck to all concerned its gonna be a bumpy ride for the "RoC".

[DT.]

Just wait until the first TC refugees court case comes up in front of the ECHR and the "RoC" is put up on the stand by TC lawyers, having to explain themselves as to why TCs have not been given the right to enjoy their properties in the "RoC" this will be very intersting.

If these TC lawyers are of the same caliber as your best debaters on our forum then I honestly can’t see you winning any cases…

No they are much better and more informed of the past and the tricks and turns the GCs can take, they are educated in Turkey, USA and UK, good luck to all concerned its gonna be a bumpy ride for the "RoC".

see, thats the difference. The government never goes for GC lawyers in cases such as this. Its Clifford Chance all the way....Magic circle qualty.

[boomerang]

Just wait until the first TC refugees court case comes up in front of the ECHR and the "RoC" is put up on the stand by TC lawyers, having to explain themselves as to why TCs have not been given the right to enjoy their properties in the "RoC" this will be very intersting.

If these TC lawyers are of the same caliber as your best debaters on our forum then I honestly can’t see you winning any cases…

No they are much better and more informed of the past and the tricks and turns the GCs can take, they are educated in Turkey, USA and UK, good luck to all concerned its gonna be a bumpy ride for the "RoC".

see, thats the difference. The government never goes for GC lawyers in cases such as this. Its Clifford Chance all the way....Magic circle qualty.

Some one should remind him the tcs do not own any land...they gave it away to god knows who for gc property...

I like to see how they are gonna get around this one...

The only tcs that have valid claims are the ones that left the RoC prior to '74 and they can claim it any time...

[boomerang]

I can see the defence strategy...your honour what's wrong with double dipping?

[humanist]

VP

Go ahead its every refugees right to go to court, TCs have started to apply as well, so the "RoC" will have to explain why they will not pay up until a solution is found but expect the other side of the dispute to cough up, double standards yet again one for GCs another for TCs, true to form. The positive side of these court cases will be that both sides will be forced to move on certain issues, maybe the current talks are related to actions taken by individuals who have taken to solving their probelsm themselves as waiting 34 years for their leaders with no results is enough.

The difference between the GC's and TC's is that TC's have every right to return to their homes and villages. GC's are not given that opportunity. I would encourage the RoC not to accept any claims by the TC's. Its no ones fault if you want to separate yourselves from the rest of Cyprus.

I would love it if I went to court in Autralia and said to them I don't want to be part of this couhtry I called home for the past 30 years please pay an amount of money because I don't wnat to live in my home any more, as I have a minority complex and I'll go and live in Fiji :):) get a grip dude

[Jerry]

Court's Decision in English:-
http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int/tkp197/view. ... n=hudoc-en

If we don't get an acceptable solution with the forthcoming talks I believe we should sue the arse off Turkey for what it has done to Cyprus, and yes VP the displaced TCs can sue the ROC if they want to but guess who will come out on top. The ROC should publish guidelines showing GCs how to approach the ECHR, they could even provide lawyers. Once Turkey starts losing case after case and loads of cash it may decide to join the civilised world and realise that you can't fuck up other peoples' lives the way they have in Cyprus

Go ahead its every refugees right to go to court, TCs have started to apply as well, so the "RoC" will have to explain why they will not pay up until a solution is found but expect the other side of the dispute to cough up, double standards yet again one for GCs another for TCs, true to form. The positive side of these court cases will be that both sides will be forced to move on certain issues, maybe the current talks are related to actions taken by individuals who have taken to solving their probelsm themselves as waiting 34 years for their leaders with no results is enough.

Dates? any links?

Just wait until the first TC refugees court case comes up in front of the ECHR and the "RoC" is put up on the stand by TC lawyers, having to explain themselves as to why TCs have not been given the right to enjoy their properties in the "RoC" this will be very intersting.

Dates? any links?

You are a bloody Cypocrite VP, you asked me for links and I gave them to you but when I ask you to substantiate your made up facts you dodge the issue and ask me to be patient. Are you looking for the links or are you waiting for the Court cases?

[Paphitis]

Court's Decision in English:-
http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int/tkp197/view. ... n=hudoc-en

If we don't get an acceptable solution with the forthcoming talks I believe we should sue the arse off Turkey for what it has done to Cyprus, and yes VP the displaced TCs can sue the ROC if they want to but guess who will come out on top. The ROC should publish guidelines showing GCs how to approach the ECHR, they could even provide lawyers. Once Turkey starts losing case after case and loads of cash it may decide to join the civilised world and realise that you can't fuck up other peoples' lives the way they have in Cyprus

Go ahead its every refugees right to go to court, TCs have started to apply as well, so the "RoC" will have to explain why they will not pay up until a solution is found but expect the other side of the dispute to cough up, double standards yet again one for GCs another for TCs, true to form. The positive side of these court cases will be that both sides will be forced to move on certain issues, maybe the current talks are related to actions taken by individuals who have taken to solving their probelsm themselves as waiting 34 years for their leaders with no results is enough.

How the hell are the TCs going to take the RoC to court? As far as I know the TCs are welcome to claim back their property. All they have to do is live in the Roc for 6 months. The reason for this is to avoid TCs double dipping by enjoying a stolen refugee property in the North.

It is Turkey that invaded Cyprus and created the illegal entity of "trnc". It is the GCs which are prevented from claiming their property in the"trnc". Whereas the TCs are free to obtain citizenship, vote, work, buy property, start an enterprise etc etc. So I ask again, how the hell are the TCs going to sue the RoC which is internationally recognised and does not deny the TCs any rights.

This just does not make any sense. Sounds like fantasy land to me.

BTW, I second the request for links to this rather eccentric claim. So whenever you are ready, please post some links.

[Jerry]

Court's Decision in English:-
http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int/tkp197/view. ... n=hudoc-en

If we don't get an acceptable solution with the forthcoming talks I believe we should sue the arse off Turkey for what it has done to Cyprus, and yes VP the displaced TCs can sue the ROC if they want to but guess who will come out on top. The ROC should publish guidelines showing GCs how to approach the ECHR, they could even provide lawyers. Once Turkey starts losing case after case and loads of cash it may decide to join the civilised world and realise that you can't fuck up other peoples' lives the way they have in Cyprus

Go ahead its every refugees right to go to court, TCs have started to apply as well, so the "RoC" will have to explain why they will not pay up until a solution is found but expect the other side of the dispute to cough up, double standards yet again one for GCs another for TCs, true to form. The positive side of these court cases will be that both sides will be forced to move on certain issues, maybe the current talks are related to actions taken by individuals who have taken to solving their probelsm themselves as waiting 34 years for their leaders with no results is enough.

How the hell are the TCs going to take the RoC to court? As far as I know the TCs are welcome to claim back their property. All they have to do is live in the Roc for 6 months. The reason for this is to avoid TCs double dipping by enjoying a stolen refugee property in the North.

It is Turkey that invaded Cyprus and created the illegal entity of "trnc". It is the GCs which are prevented from claiming their property in the"trnc". Whereas the TCs are free to obtain citizenship, vote, work, buy property, start an enterprise etc etc. So I ask again, how the hell are the TCs going to sue the RoC which is internationally recognised and does not deny the TCs any rights.

This just does not make any sense. Sounds like fantasy land to me.

BTW, I second the request for links to this rather eccentric claim. So whenever you are ready, please post some links.

Out of necessity some TC land has been built on, if they were not happy with the compensation offered by the ROC then they would, pesumably, seek redress at the EHCR.

[Paphitis]

Court's Decision in English:-
http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int/tkp197/view. ... n=hudoc-en

If we don't get an acceptable solution with the forthcoming talks I believe we should sue the arse off Turkey for what it has done to Cyprus, and yes VP the displaced TCs can sue the ROC if they want to but guess who will come out on top. The ROC should publish guidelines showing GCs how to approach the ECHR, they could even provide lawyers. Once Turkey starts losing case after case and loads of cash it may decide to join the civilised world and realise that you can't fuck up other peoples' lives the way they have in Cyprus

Go ahead its every refugees right to go to court, TCs have started to apply as well, so the "RoC" will have to explain why they will not pay up until a solution is found but expect the other side of the dispute to cough up, double standards yet again one for GCs another for TCs, true to form. The positive side of these court cases will be that both sides will be forced to move on certain issues, maybe the current talks are related to actions taken by individuals who have taken to solving their probelsm themselves as waiting 34 years for their leaders with no results is enough.

How the hell are the TCs going to take the RoC to court? As far as I know the TCs are welcome to claim back their property. All they have to do is live in the Roc for 6 months. The reason for this is to avoid TCs double dipping by enjoying a stolen refugee property in the North.

It is Turkey that invaded Cyprus and created the illegal entity of "trnc". It is the GCs which are prevented from claiming their property in the"trnc". Whereas the TCs are free to obtain citizenship, vote, work, buy property, start an enterprise etc etc. So I ask again, how the hell are the TCs going to sue the RoC which is internationally recognised and does not deny the TCs any rights.

This just does not make any sense. Sounds like fantasy land to me.

BTW, I second the request for links to this rather eccentric claim. So whenever you are ready, please post some links.

Out of necessity some TC land has been built on, if they were not happy with the compensation offered by the ROC then they would, pesumably, seek redress at the EHCR.

The TCs are unable to sue for "lack of enjoyment" grounds as they are not actually prevented from enjoying their property. They can just simply return to the "internationally recognised" RoC and claim their property. If their property has been built on, I am sure that RoC would provide compensation in accordance to market value. Again all they have to do is return to the RoC and claim all their rights after re-settling for 6 months.