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Postby Oracle » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:24 pm

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purdey wrote:Squaddies are not allowed firearms off base. I am allowed to shoot in the south of the island, and have also shot in the North under TC supervision and with a loaned gun. From what I can gather most shooting Brits in Cyprus shoot clays at various clubs, very few hunt.


Exactly ... we are talking about people carrying out illegal activities.

How difficult is it to obtain guns for hunting purdey?


Think you are talking out of turn here girl. I know a lot of (bases) people who have visited the Akamas region on family trips. No guns required. Several of them have actually rehomed the stray dogs mentioned by BOF

Purdey has already stated that squaddies are not allowed firearms off base and participate in clay shooting etc, so start looking closer to home for a change instead of passing the buck! :roll: :roll: This is how I have read your post - please tell me I am wrong!

Bubbles :roll:


There's no passing the buck ... just looking at all possibilities if we are to sort out the problem ...

I don't turn a blind eye no matter how bad the news .....
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Postby miltiades » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:32 pm

My brother arrived from Cyprus early this morning along with his youngest daughter for a 10 day stay in London taking in the wedding of our nephew. I have a 9 year old very fit Boxer , that although has met my brother once or twice he wasnt very keen on a couple of "strangers" sharing our space ! My brother , although lived in the UK for about 20 years firmly believes that dogs should not be let in the house let alone have their own" bedrooms "
I get on fabulously well with my younger brother but I rejected his "kind " request that Max , my dog , should stay in the shed !! He mattered some Cypriot slang and accepted that Max was part of our family and home he would stay. This morning Max somehow sensing that my brother had some hostile notions about him licked him to death and made sure that they became the best of mates !!! Animal ingenuity I say !!
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Postby webbo » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:32 pm

Oracle wrote:
webbo wrote:
Oracle wrote:
purdey wrote:Squaddies are not allowed firearms off base. I am allowed to shoot in the south of the island, and have also shot in the North under TC supervision and with a loaned gun. From what I can gather most shooting Brits in Cyprus shoot clays at various clubs, very few hunt.


Exactly ... we are talking about people carrying out illegal activities.

How difficult is it to obtain guns for hunting purdey?


Think you are talking out of turn here girl. I know a lot of (bases) people who have visited the Akamas region on family trips. No guns required. Several of them have actually rehomed the stray dogs mentioned by BOF

Purdey has already stated that squaddies are not allowed firearms off base and participate in clay shooting etc, so start looking closer to home for a change instead of passing the buck! :roll: :roll: This is how I have read your post - please tell me I am wrong!

Bubbles :roll:


There's no passing the buck ... just looking at all possibilities if we are to sort out the problem ...

I don't turn a blind eye no matter how bad the news .....


Glad to hear that. No use living in a fantasy world is there?
Just how would you sort out this problem?

Also, about the Akamas region, we may be over there in a few weeks time. Anyone suggest the best places to go? Will we need a 4WD? Many thanks in advance

Bubbles x 8)
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Postby webbo » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:42 pm

miltiades wrote:My brother arrived from Cyprus early this morning along with his youngest daughter for a 10 day stay in London taking in the wedding of our nephew. I have a 9 year old very fit Boxer , that although has met my brother once or twice he wasnt very keen on a couple of "strangers" sharing our space ! My brother , although lived in the UK for about 20 years firmly believes that dogs should not be let in the house let alone have their own" bedrooms "
I get on fabulously well with my younger brother but I rejected his "kind " request that Max , my dog , should stay in the shed !! He mattered some Cypriot slang and accepted that Max was part of our family and home he would stay. This morning Max somehow sensing that my brother had some hostile notions about him licked him to death and made sure that they became the best of mates !!! Animal ingenuity I say !!


Love it! Animals are so acute to human emotions it is unreal!

Well done Max! :wink:

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Postby Oracle » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:54 pm

webbo wrote:
Oracle wrote:
webbo wrote:
Oracle wrote:
purdey wrote:Squaddies are not allowed firearms off base. I am allowed to shoot in the south of the island, and have also shot in the North under TC supervision and with a loaned gun. From what I can gather most shooting Brits in Cyprus shoot clays at various clubs, very few hunt.


Exactly ... we are talking about people carrying out illegal activities.

How difficult is it to obtain guns for hunting purdey?


Think you are talking out of turn here girl. I know a lot of (bases) people who have visited the Akamas region on family trips. No guns required. Several of them have actually rehomed the stray dogs mentioned by BOF

Purdey has already stated that squaddies are not allowed firearms off base and participate in clay shooting etc, so start looking closer to home for a change instead of passing the buck! :roll: :roll: This is how I have read your post - please tell me I am wrong!

Bubbles :roll:


There's no passing the buck ... just looking at all possibilities if we are to sort out the problem ...

I don't turn a blind eye no matter how bad the news .....


Glad to hear that. No use living in a fantasy world is there?
Just how would you sort out this problem?

Also, about the Akamas region, we may be over there in a few weeks time. Anyone suggest the best places to go? Will we need a 4WD? Many thanks in advance

Bubbles x 8)


4WD most definitely ... unless you are trekking / cycling.

Which way will you be entering the Peninsula, Polis or Paphos side?

Try and make Latchi for great fish restaurants by a pretty harbour. Centre of Polis is nice if you've never been.

When the hunting season starts ... the authorities will be kept on their toes again :lol:

Seriously though the Cypriot people just want to do their jobs ..... and if you treat them as Human beings, whilst making a request, they are only too happy to oblige ...
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Postby webbo » Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:05 am

Oracle wrote:
webbo wrote:
Oracle wrote:
webbo wrote:
Oracle wrote:
purdey wrote:Squaddies are not allowed firearms off base. I am allowed to shoot in the south of the island, and have also shot in the North under TC supervision and with a loaned gun. From what I can gather most shooting Brits in Cyprus shoot clays at various clubs, very few hunt.


Exactly ... we are talking about people carrying out illegal activities.

How difficult is it to obtain guns for hunting purdey?


Think you are talking out of turn here girl. I know a lot of (bases) people who have visited the Akamas region on family trips. No guns required. Several of them have actually rehomed the stray dogs mentioned by BOF

Purdey has already stated that squaddies are not allowed firearms off base and participate in clay shooting etc, so start looking closer to home for a change instead of passing the buck! :roll: :roll: This is how I have read your post - please tell me I am wrong!

Bubbles :roll:


There's no passing the buck ... just looking at all possibilities if we are to sort out the problem ...

I don't turn a blind eye no matter how bad the news .....


Glad to hear that. No use living in a fantasy world is there?
Just how would you sort out this problem?

Also, about the Akamas region, we may be over there in a few weeks time. Anyone suggest the best places to go? Will we need a 4WD? Many thanks in advance

Bubbles x 8)


4WD most definitely ... unless you are trekking / cycling.

Which way will you be entering the Peninsula, Polis or Paphos side?

Try and make Latchi for great fish restaurants by a pretty harbour. Centre of Polis is nice if you've never been.

When the hunting season starts ... the authorities will be kept on their toes again :lol:

Seriously though the Cypriot people just want to do their jobs ..... and if you treat them as Human beings, whilst making a request, they are only too happy to oblige ...


Cheers, the 4WD it is then, though we do like to walk too ( best way to take in the scenery, take photos etc)


We will be stopping off at Latchi and Polis too as we love both these towns. :) Probably do the peninsula from this side.

When does hunting season start please? Do you know?

Thanks for your input

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Postby BOF » Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:35 am

webbo wrote:
Oracle wrote:
webbo wrote:
Oracle wrote:
webbo wrote:
Oracle wrote:
purdey wrote:Squaddies are not allowed firearms off base. I am allowed to shoot in the south of the island, and have also shot in the North under TC supervision and with a loaned gun. From what I can gather most shooting Brits in Cyprus shoot clays at various clubs, very few hunt.


Exactly ... we are talking about people carrying out illegal activities.

How difficult is it to obtain guns for hunting purdey?


Think you are talking out of turn here girl. I know a lot of (bases) people who have visited the Akamas region on family trips. No guns required. Several of them have actually rehomed the stray dogs mentioned by BOF

Purdey has already stated that squaddies are not allowed firearms off base and participate in clay shooting etc, so start looking closer to home for a change instead of passing the buck! :roll: :roll: This is how I have read your post - please tell me I am wrong!

Bubbles :roll:


There's no passing the buck ... just looking at all possibilities if we are to sort out the problem ...

I don't turn a blind eye no matter how bad the news .....


Glad to hear that. No use living in a fantasy world is there?
Just how would you sort out this problem?

Also, about the Akamas region, we may be over there in a few weeks time. Anyone suggest the best places to go? Will we need a 4WD? Many thanks in advance

Bubbles x 8)


4WD most definitely ... unless you are trekking / cycling.

Which way will you be entering the Peninsula, Polis or Paphos side?

Try and make Latchi for great fish restaurants by a pretty harbour. Centre of Polis is nice if you've never been.

When the hunting season starts ... the authorities will be kept on their toes again :lol:

Seriously though the Cypriot people just want to do their jobs ..... and if you treat them as Human beings, whilst making a request, they are only too happy to oblige ...


Cheers, the 4WD it is then, though we do like to walk too ( best way to take in the scenery, take photos etc)


We will be stopping off at Latchi and Polis too as we love both these towns. :) Probably do the peninsula from this side.

When does hunting season start please? Do you know?

Thanks for your input

Bubbles x 8)

Poor old british! now they are hunting in the akamas and abandoning dogs!! as purdey has stated service personnel are required to sign in and out any firearms (pistols,rifles they dont use shotguns) everytime,mainly for use on ranges here in Cyprus. you cannot just wander into the armoury and help yourself..And perhaps it should be pointed out that the much maligned SBA areas have a greater density of wildlife because of the stringent policing of the areas.
Most ENGLISH people are anti hunting, and indeed clay pidgeon shooting is a popular sport with them - skill without kill.
it was reported in the Cyprus mail that the cyprus police recently captured some hunters illegally shooting rabbits out of season..now thats a step in the right direction! :wink:
Bubbles the hunting season starts in the autumn sometime..and goes on for about three months, so you will be safe to visit in the near future!! :) no doubt someone on here will be able to give you the exact dates.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:55 am

BOF wrote:
webbo wrote:
Oracle wrote:
webbo wrote:
Oracle wrote:
webbo wrote:
Oracle wrote:
purdey wrote:Squaddies are not allowed firearms off base. I am allowed to shoot in the south of the island, and have also shot in the North under TC supervision and with a loaned gun. From what I can gather most shooting Brits in Cyprus shoot clays at various clubs, very few hunt.


Exactly ... we are talking about people carrying out illegal activities.

How difficult is it to obtain guns for hunting purdey?


Think you are talking out of turn here girl. I know a lot of (bases) people who have visited the Akamas region on family trips. No guns required. Several of them have actually rehomed the stray dogs mentioned by BOF

Purdey has already stated that squaddies are not allowed firearms off base and participate in clay shooting etc, so start looking closer to home for a change instead of passing the buck! :roll: :roll: This is how I have read your post - please tell me I am wrong!

Bubbles :roll:


There's no passing the buck ... just looking at all possibilities if we are to sort out the problem ...

I don't turn a blind eye no matter how bad the news .....


Glad to hear that. No use living in a fantasy world is there?
Just how would you sort out this problem?

Also, about the Akamas region, we may be over there in a few weeks time. Anyone suggest the best places to go? Will we need a 4WD? Many thanks in advance

Bubbles x 8)


4WD most definitely ... unless you are trekking / cycling.

Which way will you be entering the Peninsula, Polis or Paphos side?

Try and make Latchi for great fish restaurants by a pretty harbour. Centre of Polis is nice if you've never been.

When the hunting season starts ... the authorities will be kept on their toes again :lol:

Seriously though the Cypriot people just want to do their jobs ..... and if you treat them as Human beings, whilst making a request, they are only too happy to oblige ...


Cheers, the 4WD it is then, though we do like to walk too ( best way to take in the scenery, take photos etc)


We will be stopping off at Latchi and Polis too as we love both these towns. :) Probably do the peninsula from this side.

When does hunting season start please? Do you know?

Thanks for your input

Bubbles x 8)

Poor old british! now they are hunting in the akamas and abandoning dogs!! as purdey has stated service personnel are required to sign in and out any firearms (pistols,rifles they dont use shotguns) everytime,mainly for use on ranges here in Cyprus. you cannot just wander into the armoury and help yourself..And perhaps it should be pointed out that the much maligned SBA areas have a greater density of wildlife because of the stringent policing of the areas.
Most ENGLISH people are anti hunting, and indeed clay pidgeon shooting is a popular sport with them - skill without kill.
it was reported in the Cyprus mail that the cyprus police recently captured some hunters illegally shooting rabbits out of season..now thats a step in the right direction! :wink:
Bubbles the hunting season starts in the autumn sometime..and goes on for about three months, so you will be safe to visit in the near future!! :) no doubt someone on here will be able to give you the exact dates.
BOF


The greatest destruction to the Akamas was caused by the "poor old" British.
It has not yet recovered to its former glory in the few years they have been prevented from practicing their killer tactics.

And don't pretend that just because they are not allowed firearms off the base ... that they have no other way of obtaining guns for hunting! ...... or is that why they resort to shovels with which to kill?

Now suddenly you want us all to believe you are angels.

Pass the buck .... :roll: here's a reminder:


THE PURPOSE OF THIS OPEN LETTER is to ask you to join us in an e-mail protest against the continuation of the British Forces military exercises in the Akamas peninsula, an area of unique ecological significance and biodiversity , located on the Mediterranean island of Cyprus.

Some information about Akamas:

THE AKAMAS PENINSULA , an area of approximately 250 square Km, surrounded by 12 traditional villages, displays a great variety of habitats and is home for 530 different plants (among these are 39 endemic plant species), 168 kinds of birds, 20 kinds of serpents, 12 different mammals and, 16 kinds of butterflies. Akamas is also the reproductive grounds for "Chelonia mydas" and "Caretta caretta", two species of turtles that have been identified as "near extinction" in the Mediterranean.

The British Forces Military Exercises:

FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS, THE BRITISH FORCES CARRY OUT MILITARY EXERCISES within a 25 square Km area at the NW tip of Akamas. These exercises, which utilize live ammunition, have resulted in extensive damages to the fragile ecosystem of Akamas. Fires have left extensive areas scorched. Within the firing ranges there are bare patches reminiscent of lunar landscape. Most of the area, including the surrounding sea, is littered with both spent and live ammunition. Is 1997 the year of complete devastation?? It is significant to note that within this area there are 16 main archeological and historical sites. Destruction of cultural heritage is at stake.

The Reaction:

RECENTLY THE CYPRUS PARLIAMENTunanimously, voted against the military exercises. GREENPEACE staged a protest, three years ago, within the firing range forcing the temporary postponement of the exercises. we staged a similar protest but once again only won a temporary reprieve as the British Forces continue their exercises to this date. A poll, taken on February 7, 1997, showed that the 91% of the Cypriot population is against the British Forces military exercises at Akamas. However, such messages seem to make little difference to the British Government.

THE CYPRUS GREEN PARTY.
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Postby purdey » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:37 am

The British forces in Cyprus are NOT allowed to hunt. Excercices I cannot comment on. Shotguns stored on base for sporting purposes are not allowed off base unless competing in Cypriot competitions. I think you will find the cases discarded in and around protected areas of the Akamas are spent shotgun shells, and discarded by the local population.
Range shells would not be seen by the general public as these areas are out of bounds and policed by SBA police.
Regarding ranges the Cypriot army have ranges all over the island, these areas are also used for dumping used shells mainly rifle and spent lead.
While I appreciate your dislike of the British and their bases Phoenix this is an eco mess that cannot be pinned on the British. Take a walk in the country, nice signs peppered by shot, spent shotgun cartridges strewn at every turn, not the British I'm afraid, Who ? I make no judgement.
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Postby purdey » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:43 am

One more point, serving British personnel will face court marshall if found in possession of a shotgun off base in Cyprus. A prison sentence of 5 years will follow, also they will be prosecuted by the Cypriot Police and sentenced.
British Service personnel in Cyprus do not hunt. In fact I am only aware of three other British people who hunt in Cyprus. Obtaining permission to hunt for foreign nationals in Cyprus is not an easy process.
Please also note SBA areas hold most rare wildlife and rare fauna in Cyprus. Wildlife officers are allocated to this area and protect the rare species that thrive in these areas..
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