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[Paphitis]

It a a cull to stop the spread of bovine tb. Implemented by government with special license. There is animal cruelty in the UK, alot goes un noticed some is prosecuted. If you call a small fine and a small ban on keeping animals for a short period a punishment.
I know of a cypriot hunter who was fined £1500 and had his gun taken, for shooting a hare out of season.

Well that proves that animal cruelty is a punishable offence in Cyprus.

GG, I hope you read this.

Bafidis, since when is hunting classified as cruelty. I hate hunting but I would have regarded them as different offences.

Are you trying to play with definitions? He did kill a Hare out of season, so therefore that is not legal hunting. Maybe a different offence as you say but maybe a grey area if I was that interested in argueing this point.

[denizaksulu]

Did you email the links I posted, to your friends GG or are they not interested in American animal cruelty like yourself?

my friends are very interested in animal cruelty.
i forwarded the link about signing the petitition, becaus THAT is what THIS thread is about--animal cruelty in CYPRUS.

Thanks for being honest...

Btw, seeing you love animals so much, are there any plans to start an international petition against the United States for being the world's premier perpetrator of animal cruelty?

the USA is also the worlds leader in prosecution of people who abuse and neglect animals. but this thread is about CY and not USA, so stop trying to sidetrack the thread.

Why are you skirting around the issue yourself. Why not start a petition for cruelty to animals in the USA? I will sign that as well. Willing to sign a petition in Australia as well if that helps.

Why are you so happy to highlight animal cruelty in CYPRUS and yet overlook the USA?

the thread is about CY, not USA...that's why. maybe both you and GR should learn how to read.

Do you see a need to start a petition for the USA or not?

I for one am willing to help you guys in the USA and judging from those links, you probably need all the help you can get. My primary objective is animal welfare. Is that your primary concern as well?

Bafidis,

My opinion on a USA petition malarky is that in the US of A, there are laws against cruelty to animals. Where evidence is provided action is taken and culprits are punished. Would you say if this is the case in Cyprus? It certainly is not in parts I know. Its who you know in Cyprus, which decides who is prosecuted or not.

[15] 'Water-skiing' donkey owner faces charge
By a Staff Reporter
A DONKEY owner who tied his unfortunate animal to a raft and had it towed behind a speedboat off Larnaca faces prosecution by the Veterinary Services, it was reported yesterday.

The unsavoury stunt was recorded by television cameras and splashed across TV screens on last Tuesday evening. The donkey had its four legs tethered to the makeshift raft while his grinning owner rode on his back across the waves.

The owner told reporters he wanted to get into the Guinness Book of Records with his stunt but, as Phileleftheros newspaper reported yesterday, he is now having the book thrown at him by the veterinary service.

A government vet said the animal had been ill-treated and could have drowned if it had ended up in the sea. The owner is expected to face charges of animal abuse.

Cyprus Mail 2001

Hi Deniz,

The above proves that cruelty to animals is punishable in Cyprus, as it is in the USA.

As for nepotism, well I beleive that this disease is not only evident in Cyprus but it exists all over the world, including the USA. If this were not the case then OJ Simpson would be in jail.

Thanks for that Bafidis. I am pleased that action was taken in this case. On other threads cruelty to dogs was raised, where police were informed and they were powerless (allegedly) to do anything. The story of the donkey was a very public incident, one which would be difficult to 'hide'. But less public incidents with only a limited number of witnesses might go unpunished. I am talking about Cyprus as a wholebecause I am aware of nepotism on both sides.

[Paphitis]

Did you email the links I posted, to your friends GG or are they not interested in American animal cruelty like yourself?

my friends are very interested in animal cruelty.
i forwarded the link about signing the petitition, becaus THAT is what THIS thread is about--animal cruelty in CYPRUS.

Thanks for being honest...

Btw, seeing you love animals so much, are there any plans to start an international petition against the United States for being the world's premier perpetrator of animal cruelty?

the USA is also the worlds leader in prosecution of people who abuse and neglect animals. but this thread is about CY and not USA, so stop trying to sidetrack the thread.

Why are you skirting around the issue yourself. Why not start a petition for cruelty to animals in the USA? I will sign that as well. Willing to sign a petition in Australia as well if that helps.

Why are you so happy to highlight animal cruelty in CYPRUS and yet overlook the USA?

the thread is about CY, not USA...that's why. maybe both you and GR should learn how to read.

Do you see a need to start a petition for the USA or not?

I for one am willing to help you guys in the USA and judging from those links, you probably need all the help you can get. My primary objective is animal welfare. Is that your primary concern as well?

Bafidis,

My opinion on a USA petition malarky is that in the US of A, there are laws against cruelty to animals. Where evidence is provided action is taken and culprits are punished. Would you say if this is the case in Cyprus? It certainly is not in parts I know. Its who you know in Cyprus, which decides who is prosecuted or not.

[15] 'Water-skiing' donkey owner faces charge
By a Staff Reporter
A DONKEY owner who tied his unfortunate animal to a raft and had it towed behind a speedboat off Larnaca faces prosecution by the Veterinary Services, it was reported yesterday.

The unsavoury stunt was recorded by television cameras and splashed across TV screens on last Tuesday evening. The donkey had its four legs tethered to the makeshift raft while his grinning owner rode on his back across the waves.

The owner told reporters he wanted to get into the Guinness Book of Records with his stunt but, as Phileleftheros newspaper reported yesterday, he is now having the book thrown at him by the veterinary service.

A government vet said the animal had been ill-treated and could have drowned if it had ended up in the sea. The owner is expected to face charges of animal abuse.

Cyprus Mail 2001

Hi Deniz,

The above proves that cruelty to animals is punishable in Cyprus, as it is in the USA.

As for nepotism, well I beleive that this disease is not only evident in Cyprus but it exists all over the world, including the USA. If this were not the case then OJ Simpson would be in jail.

Thanks for that Bafidis. I am pleased that action was taken in this case. On other threads cruelty to dogs was raised, where police were informed and they were powerless (allegedly) to do anything. The story of the donkey was a very public incident, one which would be difficult to 'hide'. But less public incidents with only a limited number of witnesses might go unpunished. I am talking about Cyprus as a wholebecause I am aware of nepotism on both sides.

I know the thread you are talking about. That angered me that the police did nothing for those dogs. It was a disgrace and the Cyprus Government needs to take animal welfare a little more seriously as do most other nations. I thought the police acted in a very lazy manner. Which is why I think petitions like this are useful.

[denizaksulu]

It a a cull to stop the spread of bovine tb. Implemented by government with special license. There is animal cruelty in the UK, alot goes un noticed some is prosecuted. If you call a small fine and a small ban on keeping animals for a short period a punishment.
I know of a cypriot hunter who was fined £1500 and had his gun taken, for shooting a hare out of season.

Well that proves that animal cruelty is a punishable offence in Cyprus.

GG, I hope you read this.

Bafidis, since when is hunting classified as cruelty. I hate hunting but I would have regarded them as different offences.

Are you trying to play with definitions? He did kill a Hare out of season, so therefore that is not legal hunting. Maybe a different offence as you say but maybe a grey area if I was that interested in argueing this point.

What I was saying is that surely there are laws covering hunting and separate ones for animal cruelty. Did I say anything different?

[cyprusgeoff]

I signed the petition but I doubt it will have much impact on what has been going on for years and years.

Dogs will continue to be chained up all day and night or caged for hours on end often in the hot sun.

The dogs will continue to voice their disapproval by the only means they know how, by barking endlessly day and night. Humans who wish to enjoy peaceful days and to be able to sleep the night through without being woken and kept awake by the noise will in the end resort to any means to stop the noise.

Blame the owners of these dogs for their fate, I feel very sorry that the animals suffer as they do but after several weeks of interupted sleep, night after night I can understand people seeking to stop the noise by any means possible even poisoning.

They should be ashamed of themselves but so should the owners of the barking dogs.

[JB Bear]

Signed

[purdey]

Maybe the approach should be different when seeing animals in distress. We all see it , say it's discraceful, but how many of us approach the owners and vent our anger. Are there any on this forum ?

[cyprusgeoff]

I didn't approach the owner of the barking dogs directly but the Muktar in the village did several times with no result. My landlord then contacted the police who told the owner of the dogs to take them out of the village. This request was ignored the same result as the Muktar. The police attended again and they were met with the same result.

This mans dogs were making the lives of everyone in the village a misery
and he was so selfish that he refused to house the dogs out of the village and I took the view that he considered himself above the law and nothing could be done and nothing would ever change.

The result, I moved out of the village for the sake of my health and happiness. The landlord loses the rent, the village loses income but I keep my sanity and I'm able to sleep. The basic right of every human, the ability to be able to sleep at night.

[webbo]

Please sign the online petition to help put an end to animal cruelty in Cyprus.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/6/animal ... -in-cyprus

thanks

I signed. If we all stood up in defence of animals all over the world, those in power will have to listen.

We can start now by signing the Cyprus petition and not playing tit for tat!
Two/three/ four or however many wrongs will never make it right. Animals cannot read or write but if they could I am sure they would be asking you to sign, so get going!

Bubbles x

[webbo]

Maybe the approach should be different when seeing animals in distress. We all see it , say it's discraceful, but how many of us approach the owners and vent our anger. Are there any on this forum ?

We did and suffered abuse because of it! Dog still barks all day long as it is cooped up in the house all day.

Maybe I should try animal cruelty instead of the nuisance noise card eh?

Bubbles x