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Postby miltiades » Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:21 am

Ercan Airport by C Murray

11 January 2006 Customer Rating : n/a

A very clean airport but with often absent and very rude staff - a trait that we now know to be common in Turkey and Turkish Cyprus. There is a great lack of any English signage or translations of announcements. Hardly qualifies as an "international" airport on that score. On arrival, we had no idea which of the bits of paper we had to fill in to avoid the stamp in our passports and on departure we sat ourselves by the gates and watched faces that we knew were to be on our flight so we wouldn't be likely to miss the plane. The duty free is very strange in Ercan - instead of a large shop selling everything, there are loads of little shops all selling much the same thing. Despite Turkey and TRNC still having their own currency and being very keen to get their hands on Sterling and US Dollars, the prices are all in Euros although mostly there are no prices on anything and you have to ask. This made it very hard to compare between the various shops. And you also fall foul of a sneaky trick - you never get a price quoted in Turkish Lira - they tell you what it is in your own currency but what you don't realise is that they have converted it using the bank rate which is not at all favourable. Never use your credit card in Turkish Cyprus because they also charge extra and by the time you see the amount on your statement, it's likely to be a fair bit more than you thought!! Having said that though, if it's alcohol and tobacco you are after, the prices are very cheap and even better than in the normal shops. One further warning - beware of the luggage trolleys!! They all work perfectly, no wobbly wheels etc. but they give you an electric shock when you start moving them. Heaven knows what is in wheels or in the floor covering but I got a shock on arrival and again on departure. A fellow traveller told us that it happens a lot.
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Postby observer » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:35 am

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You need to understand, we are not talking quality of airports, we are talk legalities. If I nick a 7 series BMW of course it is better tahn my battered up ford fiesta, but at least my ford is legally mine.


Of course we are speaking illegalities.

We are not talking efficiency (though I've never had a problem), we are not talking appearance (though it is very smart), we are not talking comfort (though it is less crowded than Larnaca). We are speaking illegalities.

So I repeat my fairly simple question. Where and when has anyone ever been prosecuted for usng it other than in a GC court?

Following this thread, I'm now not even sure that it is illegal to use it. Who has the power to make such a law?
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Postby Piratis » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:42 pm

The Republic of Cyprus can determine which are the legal ports of entry in its own territory. This is the case in every other country.

Now if somebody arrives in the country in an illegal way (e.g. some immigrants on a fishing boat landing on some beach) then it is up to the state if and how it will prosecute them. If the state doesn't press charges against everybody who acts illegally, that doesn't make the illegality legal.
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Postby humanist » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:00 pm

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The Republic of Cyprus can determine which are the legal ports of entry in its own territory. This is the case in every other country.

Now if somebody arrives in the country in an illegal way (e.g. some immigrants on a fishing boat landing on some beach) then it is up to the state if and how it will prosecute them. If the state doesn't press charges against everybody who acts illegally, that doesn't make the illegality legal.


Do you really think we have a chance of prosecuting the Germans? I doubt it very much. However the EU needs to exert pressure on Germany and its parliamentarians not to recognise and accepting an invading by force regime. If they expect Turkey to meet its obligations for EU membership by the end of the year then they needs to adhere to the same rules and not break them.

The RoC ought to send a very strong message to Germany that undermining The RoC's position on this issue is not acceptable.

I hold very little respect for Talat and his wife as you know and do not believe the man to be honest let alone genuine about a Cyprus re-unification therefore, more pressure needs to go from Cyprus to the international community for respect of human rights and soverignthy. I call for expulsion of the German embassy from Cyprus as a protest.
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Postby unitedwestand » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:11 pm

humanist wrote:piratis
The Republic of Cyprus can determine which are the legal ports of entry in its own territory. This is the case in every other country.

Now if somebody arrives in the country in an illegal way (e.g. some immigrants on a fishing boat landing on some beach) then it is up to the state if and how it will prosecute them. If the state doesn't press charges against everybody who acts illegally, that doesn't make the illegality legal.


Do you really think we have a chance of prosecuting the Germans? I doubt it very much. However the EU needs to exert pressure on Germany and its parliamentarians not to recognise and accepting an invading by force regime. If they expect Turkey to meet its obligations for EU membership by the end of the year then they needs to adhere to the same rules and not break them.

The RoC ought to send a very strong message to Germany that undermining The RoC's position on this issue is not acceptable.

I hold very little respect for Talat and his wife as you know and do not believe the man to be honest let alone genuine about a Cyprus re-unification therefore, more pressure needs to go from Cyprus to the international community for respect of human rights and soverignthy. I call for expulsion of the German embassy from Cyprus as a protest.


You seem to be a nasty little man Humanist. Why call your self Humanist when in fact you are a fascist?
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Postby Eric dayi » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:15 pm

unitedwestand wrote:
humanist wrote:piratis
The Republic of Cyprus can determine which are the legal ports of entry in its own territory. This is the case in every other country.

Now if somebody arrives in the country in an illegal way (e.g. some immigrants on a fishing boat landing on some beach) then it is up to the state if and how it will prosecute them. If the state doesn't press charges against everybody who acts illegally, that doesn't make the illegality legal.


Do you really think we have a chance of prosecuting the Germans? I doubt it very much. However the EU needs to exert pressure on Germany and its parliamentarians not to recognise and accepting an invading by force regime. If they expect Turkey to meet its obligations for EU membership by the end of the year then they needs to adhere to the same rules and not break them.

The RoC ought to send a very strong message to Germany that undermining The RoC's position on this issue is not acceptable.

I hold very little respect for Talat and his wife as you know and do not believe the man to be honest let alone genuine about a Cyprus re-unification therefore, more pressure needs to go from Cyprus to the international community for respect of human rights and soverignthy. I call for expulsion of the German embassy from Cyprus as a protest.


You seem to be a nasty little man Humanist. Why call your self Humanist when in fact you are a fascist?


I've been asking the same but he chooses to run and hide instead. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby humanist » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:19 pm

You seem to be a nasty little man Humanist. Why call your self Humanist when in fact you are a fascist?


being a humanist does not mean standing by illegaities and does not mean allowing violations of human rights.

the Turkish speaking Cypriots have a right to Cyprus and all of it just like I do. I find their stance absolutely unaccepatable.

The german actions are wrong. They need to be more responsible, less hypocritical.

I fail to see why my coments are fascist. Please provide more eveidence for your coments.
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Postby unitedwestand » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:41 pm

humanist wrote:
You seem to be a nasty little man Humanist. Why call your self Humanist when in fact you are a fascist?


being a humanist does not mean standing by illegaities and does not mean allowing violations of human rights.

the Turkish speaking Cypriots have a right to Cyprus and all of it just like I do. I find their stance absolutely unaccepatable.

The german actions are wrong. They need to be more responsible, less hypocritical.

I fail to see why my coments are fascist. Please provide more eveidence for your coments.


My evidence is your actions. Look at you, looking for ways to prosecute the Germans :roll: :roll: Why don't you put them all up against your firing squad? :roll: :roll: Chill out man. You are gay aren't you? Then behave like one.
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Postby Eric dayi » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:45 pm

unitedwestand wrote:
humanist wrote:
You seem to be a nasty little man Humanist. Why call your self Humanist when in fact you are a fascist?


being a humanist does not mean standing by illegaities and does not mean allowing violations of human rights.

the Turkish speaking Cypriots have a right to Cyprus and all of it just like I do. I find their stance absolutely unaccepatable.

The german actions are wrong. They need to be more responsible, less hypocritical.

I fail to see why my coments are fascist. Please provide more eveidence for your coments.


My evidence is your actions. Look at you, looking for ways to prosecute the Germans :roll: :roll: Why don't you put them all up against your firing squad? :roll: :roll: Chill out man. You are gay aren't you? Then behave like one.


ooooooppps.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby humanist » Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:01 am

My evidence is your actions. Look at you, looking for ways to prosecute the Germans Why don't you put them all up against your firing squad? Chill out man. You are gay aren't you? Then behave like one.


You have no evidence what so ever. The Germans are disrespectful to the people of Cyprus and to the government of Cyprus. They are liiegally entring the country. How would the Germans like if I rocked up on my boat along any of their beaches.

Putting themn against a wall is your suggestion, therefore your recommendation speaks more about who you are than I am.

How are gay men excactly supposed to behave and what does my sexuality have to do with the Cyprus issue or the discussion at hand. But I have learnt very well from Turks when the debate runs out lets attack people personally. Furthermore, research shows that in most homophobic attacks and discrimination comes from men who are not 100% comfortable with their so called straight sexuality hence they attack what they fear to be true within themselves.
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