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Postby halil » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:09 pm

DT. wrote:Ercan International Airport (IATA: ECN, ICAO: LCEN), or Tymbou in Greek, is the principal airport of entry into the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

It is located northeast of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus capital city of Lefkoşa (Λευκωσία/Nicosia) near the village of Tymbou and it is not internationally recognised as a legal port of entry except by Turkey, the TRNC, and Azerbaijan (though the latter nation thus far only permits charter flights direct from Baku, not commercial)[citation needed]. All international flights thus touch down in Turkey before continuing to Ercan.

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Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:39 pm

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pantheman wrote:Ok Halil,

I take it this is a personal visit, not one sanctioned or representative of the Germany government right??

because you know well enough Ercan is an illegal airport and that Germany has already said so right.

So stop sensationalising the fact that they came in through Ercan, as was said before, private individuals do as they want, governments however have international laws to follow.

Please also tell us what they had for breakfast as i find it facinating that you have to report their every move, and whilst you are at it, you can tell us when they need to go to the toilet for a shit as well.

This would be really rivetting for us too! Moron.


Where and when have the German government ever said that Ercan is an illegal airport?

Where or when (other than in a GC court) has anybody or any airline ever been prosecuted for using Ercan Airport?


No airlines are allowed to use it. :lol: Only Turkish airlines use it. The airspace over Ercan is referred to as "Chaos corner" by Australian airlines and it is forbidden to use this airpace due to unsafe Air Traffic Control practices.
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:51 pm

halil wrote:
pantheman wrote:
halil wrote:Today the German delegation will cross over to South Cyprus for more contacts.


go and get him .... he came to Cyprus via illegal AİRPORT.


Well, thanks for that, at least you are man enough to admit it is an ILLEGAL aiprot.

And make no mistake if it were down to me, his ass would already be in jail.


your arse is not tight enough :cry:

illegal is your word not mine


These are the words of Flight International.

Eurocontrol concerned about illegal airport in occupied Cyprus
16 November, 2006

The existence of the illegally operating airport in Turkish-occupied Cyprus creates problems in air safety, notes Eurocontrol, calling for an international meeting to take place in order to end practices applied by Turkey and the illegal airport authorities.

In statements to Cyprus News Agency (CNA) Thursday, on the sidelines of an International Seminar on air safety, Eurocontrol Deputy Director of ATM Strategies, Lex
Hendriks, stressed that the airline industry and the pilots express concern over the existence of the illegal airport (Ercan), which confuses pilots and threatens air safety.

"I am a pilot myself and very often I fly through this region. The airline industry and the pilots are very concerned about the inadequate interfaces between Cyprus and its northern neighbour Turkey, because of the introduction of an ATC service (in occupied Cyprus) that is not recognized by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO)", he said.

The Eurocontrol official said that no matter how politically sensitive this issue is, it
must be resolved since "it is a potentially unsafe situation".

''We cannot leave this hanging, it has to be resolved, it is a potentially unsafe situation and I know it is politically very sensitive but we should address it and resolve it'', Hendriks told a seminar on air safety Thursday.

Answering questions by CNA, he explained that Turkey requests from all aircraft flying from Turkey to the airspace of Cyprus to call the illegal airport in the Turkish occupied areas of Cyprus for further instructions.

Most pilots, he said, are well aware of the situation with the illegal airport and ask for instructions from the internationally recognized airport of Larnaca, but there are others who do not know enough about the situation.

"It is very unsafe to have two different radios in Cyprus", he warned.
Hendriks called for "an international seminar to take place on the highest level so that a solution is found to stop Turkey's and Ercan's practices".

He told CNA that the whole situation is causing great concern among pilots.
Answering a question, Hendriks said that although Turkey refuses to recognize the Republic of Cyprus, the issue needs to be addressed, since air traffic in Cyprus will increase year by year.

Since 1974 the Republic of Cyprus is divided by Turkish troops, which occupy one third of the island's territory.

Turkey, a country aspiring to enter the EU, is refusing to recognize Cyprus.
In November 1983 Turkey proclaimed a self-styled regime in the northern occupied areas, which only Ankara recognizes.
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Postby DT. » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:51 pm

halil wrote:
DT. wrote:Ercan International Airport (IATA: ECN, ICAO: LCEN), or Tymbou in Greek, is the principal airport of entry into the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

It is located northeast of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus capital city of Lefkoşa (Λευκωσία/Nicosia) near the village of Tymbou and it is not internationally recognised as a legal port of entry except by Turkey, the TRNC, and Azerbaijan (though the latter nation thus far only permits charter flights direct from Baku, not commercial)[citation needed]. All international flights thus touch down in Turkey before continuing to Ercan.

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Postby Lysimachos » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:55 pm

DT. wrote:
halil wrote:
DT. wrote:Ercan International Airport (IATA: ECN, ICAO: LCEN), or Tymbou in Greek, is the principal airport of entry into the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

It is located northeast of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus capital city of Lefkoşa (Λευκωσία/Nicosia) near the village of Tymbou and it is not internationally recognised as a legal port of entry except by Turkey, the TRNC, and Azerbaijan (though the latter nation thus far only permits charter flights direct from Baku, not commercial)[citation needed]. All international flights thus touch down in Turkey before continuing to Ercan.

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Postby halil » Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:59 am

MR ANDRES SAID CANCELLATION OF HIS CONTACTS IS CONTRARY TO CYPRUS RECONCILIATION PROCESS.

All scheduled contacts of the German Social Democrat Party deputy Gerd Andres with Greek Cypriot officials in South Cyprus have been cancelled.
Mr Andres – who has been having contacts in North Cyprus at the head of a delegation – said that the move is contrary to the Cyprus reconciliation process.

Mr Andres was due to hold discussions with the Greek Cypriot Leader Demetris Christofias and other officials in South Cyprus.
In a statement on the issue, the SDP deputy – Chairperson of the Coordination Group of Turkey Cyprus Policies Mr Andres said he was informed by phone that his contacts were cancelled.
`I cannot understand the reason behind the decision. I am disappointed` he said, adding that the move is contrary to the reconciliation and peace process in Cyprus.

He said that his use of Ercan Airport was not cited as a reason for the cancellation of his contacts in South Cyprus.
Mr Andres said he was told that time was not right for such contacts.
He explained that the delegation was planning to leave the island through Larnaca Airport but added that they would use Ercan Airport for their departure from the island.

He noted that he would again visit the island for contacts with Greek Cypriot officials.
`I don’t want this incident to become an issue harming dialogue. What I really concerned is that I would present a report to the German Parliament and inform it about my contacts` he added.
Asked whether he would use Larnaca Airport in South Cyprus for his next visit to the island, he said he would continue to use Ercan Airport.
`The European Union sees the whole island as a member. I cannot understand Greek Cypriot officials’ reaction to the use of Ercan Airport` he said.

During its stay in North Cyprus, members of the German delegation had discussions with President Mehmet Ali Talat and other Turkish Cypriot officials.
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Postby Big Al » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:18 am

my father in law just got back from cyprus, for the first time he decided to use Larnaca airport instead of Ercan. His comparison, and i quote "ercan shits all over larnaca airport". i have spoken to many people who have used both airports and everyone says the same thing. I cant understand the issue, so what if people want to use a superior airport, does it really matter??
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Postby DT. » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:47 am

Big Al wrote:my father in law just got back from cyprus, for the first time he decided to use Larnaca airport instead of Ercan. His comparison, and i quote "ercan shits all over larnaca airport". i have spoken to many people who have used both airports and everyone says the same thing. I cant understand the issue, so what if people want to use a superior airport, does it really matter??


1) Its not a superior airport, Tymbou is an airport hangar in the middle of a field where you need to walk to your plane.
2) The new Larnaca airport opening in 2010 is considered to be one of the msot sophisticated airports in the region, comparable to Dubai International
3) Larnaca airport could have been a shed with no windows and a ping pong table. It would still be the legal port of entry along with Paphos to this island.
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Postby paaul12 » Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:17 am

ENTERING Cyprus through Ercan [Tymbou] airport in the north is not illegal, said US Congressman Ed Whitfield, leader of an 11-person delegation that flew in through the north to visit Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat yesterday
:lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... &archive=1

Reportedly looking into the feasibility of direct flights to the Turkish Cypriot north, the officials inspected security facilities such as baggage handling, security cameras and passes at the newly refurbished airport and were accompanied by an official from the Turkish Cypriot civil aviation authority.
:lol: :lol:

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... &archive=1

Two weeks ago Greek Cypriot Neophytos Constantinou was arrested on his return to the south after holidaying over the weekend in Istanbul. He later appeared in court and was found guilty of entering the island through an illegal port. The judge, however, refused to sentence him on the grounds that EU law superseded national law and that it would have been “discriminatory” to punish Constantinou when thousands of others are using the port.
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http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... &archive=1
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Postby pantheman » Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:38 am

Big Al wrote:my father in law just got back from cyprus, for the first time he decided to use Larnaca airport instead of Ercan. His comparison, and i quote "ercan shits all over larnaca airport". i have spoken to many people who have used both airports and everyone says the same thing. I cant understand the issue, so what if people want to use a superior airport, does it really matter??


You need to understand, we are not talking quality of airports, we are talk legalities. If I nick a 7 series BMW of course it is better tahn my battered up ford fiesta, but at least my ford is legally mine.

It is obvious you lot don't know the difference, just get your FIL on here and I will explain the morals of right and wrong to him. I tell you what, just tell me where he lives, i'll come steal his car and drive past his house waving and saying wow look what I got.

See the difference :?: :?: :?:
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