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Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:56 am

The Greek embezzlement of the cultural and historical identity of Cyprus…

What will be achieved is the detachment of Cyprus from its only true ally…

Cyprus needs a MILITARY ally and not a bloody social one! When will some of you wake up to the fact that 37% of Cypriot territory is under Turkish military occupation? Where is this phantom “ally” you’re talking about Alexis, because action talks and bullshit walks remember?

For whichever reasons, Greece is clearly NOT interested in the liberation of Cyprus so any notion that she is the “kind” of ally that Cyprus needs is PURE FICTION!

You can try playing your Zorba music over a loudspeaker but I doubt the Turks will think much of it and up the volume of their Hodja!

… and the stripping of all cultural and historical identity that binds people together and forms nations, leaving the island free to be overrun by Turkey.

If anything, it is Greece that has stripped the REAL cultural and historical identity of this ancient island called Cyprus, that existed WAY before any Greek or Turk was ever born!!!

When the Mycenaean Greeks arrived on the shores of Cyprus at around 1,500BC to trade as archaeologists and historians claim, they found an EXISTING 7,000 year old civilization on Cyprus, albeit small, or there wouldn’t be anyone to trade with!!!

How dare Greece IGNORE AND DEMOTE the existing ancient Cypriot civilization and attach their OWN LABEL on Cypriot foreheads???

The Greek theft of the Cypriot cultural and historical identity is the biggest distortion in the history AND OF THE HISTORY of mankind!

Regards, GR.
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Postby alexISS » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:59 am

Imagine stripping the Greek Cypriot culture of anything Greek. What is there left? Try answering that!
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:00 am

alexISS wrote:Imagine stripping the Greek Cypriot culture of anything Greek. What is there left? Try answering that!

I can write a BOOK about the Cypriot culture... trust me! :D
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Postby alexISS » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:02 am

Get Real! wrote:
alexISS wrote:Imagine stripping the Greek Cypriot culture of anything Greek. What is there left? Try answering that!

I can write a BOOK about the Cypriot culture... trust me! :D


That's not an answer. That's saying that you have an answer. What is it then? You don't have to write a book, just post the main points
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:06 am

alexISS wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
alexISS wrote:Imagine stripping the Greek Cypriot culture of anything Greek. What is there left? Try answering that!

I can write a BOOK about the Cypriot culture... trust me! :D


That's not an answer. That's saying that you have an answer. What is it then? You don't have to write a book, just post the main points

I've posted plenty of points already just above... YOU are the one with no answers so quit being lazy and start addressing the first of my allegations that your "alliance" is nothing but bull dust!
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Re: The Greek embezzlement of the cultural and historical...

Postby alexISS » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:19 am

Get Real! wrote:Cyprus needs a MILITARY ally and not a bloody social one! When will some of you wake up to the fact that 37% of Cypriot territory is under Turkish military occupation? Where is this phantom “ally” you’re talking about Alexis, because action talks and bullshit walks remember?

Cyprus and Greece are both in the EU, this fact alone makes the very thought of waging a war ridiculous, as ridiculous as any of these countries being attacked by Turkey. Even if Cyrpus were to fight a war, France would never fight Cyprus's war, Greece would. France is only serving its own interests: selling military equipment and installing bases near the middle east and the Suez canal. In the recent diplomatic wars where Cyprus defeated Turkey, Greece was your only ally and it was thanks to them that the war was won and Cyprus joined the EU. It wasn't France that forced you in, they couldn't care less. It was Greece.

Get Real! wrote:For whichever reasons, Greece is clearly NOT interested in the liberation of Cyprus so any notion that she is the “kind” of ally that Cyprus needs is PURE FICTION!

The liberation of Cyprus will not be achieved through war, this is not the 60s!!!

Get Real! wrote:You can try playing your Zorba music over a loudspeaker but I doubt the Turks will think much of it and up the volume of their Hodja!

And what music are the GCs playing? "La Marseillaise"? :lol:
Wake up, will you!

Get Real! wrote:If anything, it is Greece that has stripped the REAL cultural and historical identity of this ancient island called Cyprus, that existed WAY before any Greek or Turk was ever born!!!
When the Mycenaean Greeks arrived on the shores of Cyprus at around 1,500BC to trade as archaeologists and historians claim, they found an EXISTING 7,000 year old civilization on Cyprus, albeit small, or there wouldn’t be anyone to trade with!!!

The Greeks colonized Cyprus, they formed local communities and they traded the local Cypriot wealth with mainland Greeks. There were many pre-Greek tribes in Greece as there were in Cyprus, they all got assimilated, go read a history book!
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Postby alexISS » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:22 am

Get Real! wrote:I've posted plenty of points already just above... YOU are the one with no answers so quit being lazy and start addressing the first of my allegations that your "alliance" is nothing but bull dust!


What points? I'll ask again, if you strip the Greek Cypriots of the shared Greek culture, what is left?
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:29 am

You cannot bisect the culture of the Cypriot people that bluntly, dont let the current division fool you into thinking so, because Cyprus is made up of a fusion of cultures and you cannot simply "strip" a certain aspect of it. It is a cumulation of cultures that blend together over a long period of time.

In other words your question is wrong.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:47 am

Get Real wrote:If anything, it is Greece that has stripped the REAL cultural and historical identity of this ancient islandcalled Cyprus, that existed WAY before any Greek or Turk was ever born!!!
When the Mycenaean Greeks arrived on the shores of Cyprus at around 1,500BC to trade as archaeologists and historians claim, they found an EXISTING 7,000 year old civilization on Cyprus, albeit small, or there wouldn’t be anyone to trade with!!!


This ancient island does not exist in a vacuum.

The passage of time alone has served to change it, and thankfully it has always adapted to its ever-changing environment.

Cyprus is not stuck in some ancient time-warp.

It is a highly-evolved blend of ALL the people it has encountered and absorbed over the last few thousand years.
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Postby alexISS » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:54 am

shahmaran wrote:You cannot bisect the culture of the Cypriot people that bluntly, dont let the current division fool you into thinking so, because Cyprus is made up of a fusion of cultures and you cannot simply "strip" a certain aspect of it. It is a cumulation of cultures that blend together over a long period of time.

In other words your question is wrong.


Shahmaran, are you telling me that my question is wrong because you can't actually strip people of a part of their culture? Thank you very much, I knew that already. It was a hypothetical question, I thought it was obvious enough to not include the word 'hypothetical' in it.
So no, the question is 100% valid. The Greek culture is dominant in the Greek Cypriots
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