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[Get Real!]

I can think of some 15 countries that can turn Turkey into glass at the push of a few buttons from the comfort of their command center.

But anyway, we need not get into nuclear talk so have a look at Turkey's "great" military performance in July 1974...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10123

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Stop acting like a kid with his plastic toy soldiers. Nukes can cause massive disaster, so massive that nuking an entire country would affect the entire world GR, it's not that easy. You also have the risk of starting a chain of similar reactions. Why do you think nukes have only been used by the americans on Japan and never again?

Hello? You DID say...

I do NOT think that Turkey is invincible but I do think that there isn't an army in the world that can beat them on their own soil.

...that IS invincible! Notice that you DO overestimate Turkey's military strength and as soon as I remind you of the stark realities you now back down!

As for nukes causing "massive" disaster it all depends on the payload!

So what do you make of Turkey's 1974 adventure against a virtually defenseless island?

[Piratis]

You are already attacking by keeping 1/3rd of our land under illegal occupation. Cyprus, like every other country, has every right to protect its own borders from foreign invadors.

So very true Piratis, things can change dramatically, what makes you think they will always change in your favour? Ever thought about that?

Because it can not get more in your favor than it currently is. Turkey is still united and it has the backing of the USA. These are things that can change.

Empty threats Piratis when you ahve the power no doubt you will use it to finish off what you stated and anniahalate us once and forever but in the meantime we have every right to live peacefully away from your persecution and dominance, good luck to you in your wieght for the swing but dont complain if the swing goes further in our favor, ho no you are a GC you will always complain believing pigs will fly.

We never tried to annihilate you, on the contrary it is you who did this. But since you insist that you can not live along with us, and since us giving you our lands is not a possibility, then we will have to find some different solution to this problem. And I am guessing you wouldn't object to a solution involving ethnic cleansing right? Thats what your signature is saying. So be sure we will apply a solution that will meet your standards.

If we wanted to annihilate you i think we would have done it when we had the chance, it would have been especially meaningful to do while you were murdering us en mass, but we didn't.

So when were we "murdering you en mass"? The only mass killings (1000s of people at a time) were done by you. The conflicts were you lost some 100s of people were all conflicts which you started and where you killed an at least equal amount of Greek Cypriots.

[shahmaran]

The most you can do is throw stones at us from the other side Piratis, dont kid yourself.

currently. Don't kid yourself that the current balance of power will remain always the same. Things change fast these days, and with turkey being so unstable I wouldn't be surprised if we see a major change during our lifetime.

Yes, i think you have made a mistake while pasting this crap too, you mean "the balance of power will NOT remain always the same", which sounds more like Piratis the broken computer.

The Turks have not really lost the so called "balance of power" for over 1000 years while pulling up from the most dreadful of conditions, but you believe they will in your life time?

Way to go Piratis, do all of us a favor, why don't you hold your breath for it?

I didn't make any mistake. Read what I wrote again.

And the Turks didn't loose in 1000 years? They lost loads. Remember the Ottoman empire.

The Turks were just part of the Ottoman Empire, and if the balance of power stays the same you will only get as far as you got in the last 35 years regarding getting the rest of the island back.

[shahmaran]

You are already attacking by keeping 1/3rd of our land under illegal occupation. Cyprus, like every other country, has every right to protect its own borders from foreign invadors.

So very true Piratis, things can change dramatically, what makes you think they will always change in your favour? Ever thought about that?

Because it can not get more in your favor than it currently is. Turkey is still united and it has the backing of the USA. These are things that can change.

Empty threats Piratis when you ahve the power no doubt you will use it to finish off what you stated and anniahalate us once and forever but in the meantime we have every right to live peacefully away from your persecution and dominance, good luck to you in your wieght for the swing but dont complain if the swing goes further in our favor, ho no you are a GC you will always complain believing pigs will fly.

We never tried to annihilate you, on the contrary it is you who did this. But since you insist that you can not live along with us, and since us giving you our lands is not a possibility, then we will have to find some different solution to this problem. And I am guessing you wouldn't object to a solution involving ethnic cleansing right? Thats what your signature is saying. So be sure we will apply a solution that will meet your standards.

If we wanted to annihilate you i think we would have done it when we had the chance, it would have been especially meaningful to do while you were murdering us en mass, but we didn't.

So when were we "murdering you en mass"? The only mass killings (1000s of people at a time) were done by you. The conflicts were you lost some 100s of people were all conflicts which you started and where you killed an at least equal amount of Greek Cypriots.

So did you, but in your twisted mind, for some reason, that makes you better then us?

More examples of your perverted logic Piratis.

[Piratis]

You are already attacking by keeping 1/3rd of our land under illegal occupation. Cyprus, like every other country, has every right to protect its own borders from foreign invadors.

So very true Piratis, things can change dramatically, what makes you think they will always change in your favour? Ever thought about that?

Because it can not get more in your favor than it currently is. Turkey is still united and it has the backing of the USA. These are things that can change.

Empty threats Piratis when you ahve the power no doubt you will use it to finish off what you stated and anniahalate us once and forever but in the meantime we have every right to live peacefully away from your persecution and dominance, good luck to you in your wieght for the swing but dont complain if the swing goes further in our favor, ho no you are a GC you will always complain believing pigs will fly.

We never tried to annihilate you, on the contrary it is you who did this. But since you insist that you can not live along with us, and since us giving you our lands is not a possibility, then we will have to find some different solution to this problem. And I am guessing you wouldn't object to a solution involving ethnic cleansing right? Thats what your signature is saying. So be sure we will apply a solution that will meet your standards.

You can push us into 25% of the island, ensure peace for the whole island for the next 34 years so that we can enjoy recognition and prosper, ring any bells?

No, it doesn't.

If we can prosper and have recognition thats because we are acting legally and we are civilized people that can advance.

Regarding the 25% where did that came from???? You think if Cyprus can liberate its own territory it will gift to you the 25%??

[Get Real!]

So did you, but in your twisted mind, for some reason, that makes you better then us?

Hmm, your president wears glasses...

[umit07]

I can think of some 15 countries that can turn Turkey into glass at the push of a few buttons from the comfort of their command center.

But anyway, we need not get into nuclear talk so have a look at Turkey's "great" military performance in July 1974...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10123

,


Stop acting like a kid with his plastic toy soldiers. Nukes can cause massive disaster, so massive that nuking an entire country would affect the entire world GR, it's not that easy. You also have the risk of starting a chain of similar reactions. Why do you think nukes have only been used by the americans on Japan and never again?

Hello? You DID say...

I do NOT think that Turkey is invincible but I do think that there isn't an army in the world that can beat them on their own soil.

...that IS invincible! Notice that you DO overestimate Turkey's military strength and as soon as I remind you of the stark realities you now back down!

As for nukes causing "massive" disaster it all depends on the payload!

So what do you make of Turkey's 1974 adventure against a virtually defenseless island?

OK , if I were to give you an example of what I mean just look at the stuff that happened at Galipoli! Read about the Turkish war for independance against France, Italy, Greece and Britain. If Turkey was attacked even at it's weakest everyone would fight to the death like in Okinawa. THe Americans predicted that at least 300,000 men would die to capture the Japanese mainland!!! The estimated japanese deaths would be around 2.5-3.0 million!!! Get my dirft GR!!!!

What do you think would have happened the TC's on the island if the coup. followed it's course GR? With guys like Piraitis who say that "Cyprus is NO different from Crete" I can imagine!

[Piratis]

You are already attacking by keeping 1/3rd of our land under illegal occupation. Cyprus, like every other country, has every right to protect its own borders from foreign invadors.

So very true Piratis, things can change dramatically, what makes you think they will always change in your favour? Ever thought about that?

Because it can not get more in your favor than it currently is. Turkey is still united and it has the backing of the USA. These are things that can change.

Empty threats Piratis when you ahve the power no doubt you will use it to finish off what you stated and anniahalate us once and forever but in the meantime we have every right to live peacefully away from your persecution and dominance, good luck to you in your wieght for the swing but dont complain if the swing goes further in our favor, ho no you are a GC you will always complain believing pigs will fly.

We never tried to annihilate you, on the contrary it is you who did this. But since you insist that you can not live along with us, and since us giving you our lands is not a possibility, then we will have to find some different solution to this problem. And I am guessing you wouldn't object to a solution involving ethnic cleansing right? Thats what your signature is saying. So be sure we will apply a solution that will meet your standards.

If we wanted to annihilate you i think we would have done it when we had the chance, it would have been especially meaningful to do while you were murdering us en mass, but we didn't.

So when were we "murdering you en mass"? The only mass killings (1000s of people at a time) were done by you. The conflicts were you lost some 100s of people were all conflicts which you started and where you killed an at least equal amount of Greek Cypriots.

So did you, but in your twisted mind, for some reason, that makes you better then us?

More examples of your perverted logic Piratis.

What makes our cause (not us) way better than your cause, is that we have only fought for what are our rights on this island. On the other hand you are fighting against us to deprive us from our rights and to have gains of land and power on our loss by collaborating with the UK and Turkey.

Your main cause is the annihilation of Greek Cypriots from the north part of their island so you can create there some fake Turkish state there!

[Get Real!]

I can think of some 15 countries that can turn Turkey into glass at the push of a few buttons from the comfort of their command center.

But anyway, we need not get into nuclear talk so have a look at Turkey's "great" military performance in July 1974...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10123

Stop acting like a kid with his plastic toy soldiers. Nukes can cause massive disaster, so massive that nuking an entire country would affect the entire world GR, it's not that easy. You also have the risk of starting a chain of similar reactions. Why do you think nukes have only been used by the americans on Japan and never again?

Hello? You DID say...

I do NOT think that Turkey is invincible but I do think that there isn't an army in the world that can beat them on their own soil.

...that IS invincible! Notice that you DO overestimate Turkey's military strength and as soon as I remind you of the stark realities you now back down!

As for nukes causing "massive" disaster it all depends on the payload!

So what do you make of Turkey's 1974 adventure against a virtually defenseless island?

OK , if I were to give you an example of what I mean just look at the stuff that happened at Galipoli! Read about the Turkish war for independance against France, Italy, Greece and Britain. If Turkey was attacked even at it's weakest everyone would fight to the death like in Okinawa. THe Americans predicted that at least 300,000 men would die to capture the Japanese mainland!!! The estimated japanese deaths would be around 2.5-3.0 million!!! Get my dirft GR!!!!

What do you think would have happened the TC's on the island if the coup. followed it's course GR? With guys like Piraitis who say that "Cyprus is NO different from Crete" I can imagine!

You have every right to feel proud of Galipoli and any other Turkish confrontation if it pleases your heart and I'm not going to spoil that for you as it's not my goal.

What I would like you to recognize is MY frustration at what I regard to be a foreign invader in my country and my desire to see them gone. Ideally, I don't want to see any harm to TCs but if there's no other way then the liberation of my country will have to take precedence regardless.

Btw, look what you’ve done to my beautiful thread you bloody war monger!!!

[Piratis]

What do you think would have happened the TC's on the island if the coup. followed it's course GR? With guys like Piraitis who say that "Cyprus is NO different from Crete" I can imagine!

Cyprus is no different than Rhodes either, which joined Greece later in 1948 and also has a Turkish minority. So why you only remember Crete and not Rhodes?

Don't forget that what happened to the Turks in Crete was directly related to what happened to the Greeks of Asia Minor at about the same time.

Furthermore, and most importantly, the coup would not have succeeded because the great majority of Cypriots were against it. Many Cypriots died while defending Cyprus from the coupists and Makarios was at the UN condemning the coup. So there was no chance that the coup would succeed.

Furthermore, the coup collapsed immediately after the invasion. But Turkey continued with a second invasion, and still occupies Cyprus 34 years after their lame excuse expired.