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More light shed on the events of 1963

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Eric dayi » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:48 pm

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Bananiot wrote:EOKA's struggle was for enosis not for independence. After independence the majority of EOKA members swore to God to carry on the struggle for enosis and the rest you all know.

It is true that Turkish Cypriots could venture out of the enclaves but they did so at their own peril. Some never returned.

What I fail to understand is why people are so afraid to admit things in order to finally bury the skeletons we have in our closets and look to a bright new future for all of us. The only way I can interpret this behaviour is if I assume that these people do not want a solution because of racist bigotry that has probably been incorporated into their genes by fanatical school teachers (we have a plethora of those), the church and all sorts of nationalists.


Bananiot, EOKA's struggle was for liberation, freedom and self-determination. Beyond that, how Cypriots would choose to exercise their right for self-determination is entirely up to them.

According to the resolution for decolonization "integration into an independent State" is a legitimate option for the people of a territory being decolonized to choose.
http://www.un.org/Depts/dpi/decolonizat ... ration.htm

So we have done absolutely nothing wrong. It is others who kept invading our island with the aim to enslave us and steal our lands. We never ventured out of our own island to harm any Turks or British or anybody else. The only thing we ever asked for and fought for is our right for freedom from those foreign invadors. Nothing more.

Why don't you say anything about the fact that it is the TCs who started the conflict against us in 1958, and collaborated with the foreign colonialists, in order to stop Cypriots from gaining their freedom? How can you blame GCs when it is in fact the TCs who started the conflict?

According to you GCs should just be the good slaves and accept whatever some foreigners want to impose on us and our island and never fight for our rights! Fortunately the "Slave GC" kind, which the TCs so much love (as we can all see) is just a tiny minority. The rest of GCs will keep fighting for our rights and our enemies should know that as long as they try to enslave us and steal our lands that they will have losses and conciquences as well.

If they want peace, there is one and only way to achieve it: To take off their troops from our island and allow Cypriots to be free on their own island. The kind of peace that comes with our capitulation will never come. This is why Greek Cypriots still exist on this island for 3500 years after 10s of foreign invadors. If we were all like Bananiot there wouldn't be any Greek Cypriots left today.

Τούτος ο λαός, αφέντη μου, δεν ξέρει πολλά λόγια,
σωπαίνει, ακούει, κι όσα του λες τα δένει κομπολόγια.


Proof of 1958, any independent links? lets clear up this claim.

If you try to give me country to another foreign country I will figh back for my right to remain as is.


What's this about 1958 this cry baby is on about VP?
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Postby growuptcs » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:50 pm

How can anyone expect the Turkish troops to leave the island without working towards a settlement. Maybe they expect a magic formula to come and dispear them overnight or until official partition becomes a reality and make everyone happy.


They're working actually right now for it, without taking partition as an answer. Its all a matter of Turkey folding to the process or not.
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Postby Piratis » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:51 pm

Proof of 1958, any independent links? lets clear up this claim.


How many times do you want me to post the British (your friends) video VP?

Here it is again:



If you try to give me country to another foreign country I will figh back for my right to remain as is.


Really?? I didn't see you fighting when Cypriots where enslaved against their will under the Ottomans and the British.

The Cypriots wanted their freedom just like it happened to many other Greek islands and territories. What you fought for was against the liberation of Cyprus so Turkey and UK could keep a control over our island and for you to have gains on our loss.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:51 pm

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Bananiot wrote:Dear friends, you would be surprised how many Bananiots exist in the Greek side. Simply we stayed silent for too long.


If only Bananiot, you are out numbered by GCs like Piratis, Kifeas, Kikapu, Sotos, Oracle, growuptc, DT to name a few against who we would not stand a chance. In a way I thank them for showing what we would face in a united Cyprus, they fuel my belief that there will never be a solution, and the only real solution out there is agreed partition.


If people like Bananiot were always the majority then there wouldn't be any GCs today, we would all be Turks.

If people like Bananiot like magic became the majority now, then a few years ago we would have accepted the Annan partition plan and today you would have your own separate and officially Turkish part of Cyprus and your dream would be true.

But Bananiot is not the majority, and therefore gaining on our loss is not a possibility for you. If you want war, then you will have consequences from the war you choose, and you will never manage to win it and enjoy the spoils.


You would have gotten Maras,

Rid of the settlers,

Rid of the Turkish army,

8% more land,

what have you now? nothing.

Bananiot the majority of TCs woudl trust with their future with you no chance rather stay as we are and take our chances with Turkey.
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Postby Eric dayi » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:53 pm

Piratis wrote:Τούτος ο λαός, αφέντη μου, δεν ξέρει πολλά λόγια,
σωπαίνει, ακούει, κι όσα του λες τα δένει κομπολόγια.


You are supposed to be a Moderator and should know the rules better than anyone else about posting an English translation.

So will you translate what you posted in Greek?
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Postby Piratis » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:54 pm

What's this about 1958 this cry baby is on about VP?


1958 dear Eric is the year when you started the inter communal conflict against us and made plans for our annihilation from the north part of our island.
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Postby Eric dayi » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:59 pm

Piratis wrote:

If you try to give me country to another foreign country I will figh back for my right to remain as is.


Really?? I didn't see you fighting when Cypriots where enslaved against their will under the Ottomans and the British.


You didn't see VP fight against the Ottoman?

How old are you FFS? :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Postby Piratis » Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:00 pm

Eric dayi wrote:
Piratis wrote:Τούτος ο λαός, αφέντη μου, δεν ξέρει πολλά λόγια,
σωπαίνει, ακούει, κι όσα του λες τα δένει κομπολόγια.


You are supposed to be a Moderator and should know the rules better than anyone else about posting an English translation.

So will you translate what you posted in Greek?


Its a song, it can't really be translated. But here is a try:

This people, my ruler, doesn't know many words,
silently listens, but nothing that you say really matters
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Postby Eric dayi » Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:01 pm

Piratis wrote:
What's this about 1958 this cry baby is on about VP?


1958 dear Eric is the year when you started the inter communal conflict against us and made plans for our annihilation from the north part of our island.


What are you, the comedian of the forum? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Eric dayi » Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:09 pm

Piratis wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:
Piratis wrote:Τούτος ο λαός, αφέντη μου, δεν ξέρει πολλά λόγια,
σωπαίνει, ακούει, κι όσα του λες τα δένει κομπολόγια.


You are supposed to be a Moderator and should know the rules better than anyone else about posting an English translation.

So will you translate what you posted in Greek?


Its a song, it can't really be translated. But here is a try:

This people, my ruler, doesn't know many words,
silently listens, but nothing that you say really matters


So, why sing a song when you are crying your eyes out and telling lies?

Who are the people who don't know many words but silently listen?

Who is your "ruler"?

And why nothing he says really matters?

What was the point of posting a part of a song?

Come on, tell the truth for once in your life. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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