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Postby Oracle » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:58 pm

Piratis wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:
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shahmaran wrote:[How far would you have gone with your murders IF Turkey had not interrupted?


There were no TC casualties before Turkey invaded.

Proportional government representation was what we had before you threw us out, no?


Firstly, it was not proportional representation by any stretch of the imagination, averaging out at about 40% power for 18% population; and secondly the TCs were not thrown out they walked away from their responsibilities.


Are you trying to lie that there were no TCs murdered by the GCs and Greeks from 1963 to 1974?

LIAR. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


The inter-communal conflict was from 1958 until 1968 and an about equal amount of GCs and TCs was murdered.

So stop lying that the conflict started in 1963, and stop lying that the conflict lasted until 1974.


There were 30 TC deaths (about 5 per year) between 1968 and 1974 and none around the time of the coup for it to form a reason for Turkey's invasion.
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:06 pm

You so conveniently forget the ambient atmosphere Piratis. Of course, I do not remember a loud patriot and democrat like yourself complain when Papadopoulos was wildly accusing everyone who voted for the Annan Plan of being a paid agent of the enemy.

In case you did not get it, third time round, I repeat that Savva is the author of the article in "Politis" and he claims that we were getting ready to annihilate the Turkish Cypriots well in advance of December 1964. As a proof he sites his own experience. This is a man who fought with EOKA and you calling him a traitor because he told some truths shows that you have a distorted view of what is important to national interests. I for one, side with Dionysios Solomos, who kept repeating that "only the truth serves national interests".
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Postby Piratis » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:25 pm

You so conveniently forget the ambient atmosphere Piratis. Of course, I do not remember a loud patriot and democrat like yourself complain when Papadopoulos was wildly accusing everyone who voted for the Annan Plan of being a paid agent of the enemy.


Papadopoulos never said that everybody who voted yes was a paid agent. Just a few specific people, and we all know that is true. So why should I complain. You have the right to talk about others don't?

In case you did not get it, third time round, I repeat that Savva is the author of the article in "Politis" and he claims that we were getting ready to annihilate the Turkish Cypriots well in advance of December 1964. As a proof he sites his own experience. This is a man who fought with EOKA and you calling him a traitor because he told some truths shows that you have a distorted view of what is important to national interests. I for one, side with Dionysios Solomos, who kept repeating that "only the truth serves national interests".


And why didn't we annihilate them then? :roll: It is either that a) Savva has no clue what he is talking about, or b) the one who said that thing to Savva (if indeed it happened) has no clue what he was talking about. Either way this theory has nothing to do with reality.

I like it how you never say anything about the actual annihilation that the Turks committed against us, but you are always quick to spread every theory that is against GCs. And then when you feel free to spread such crap you have the nerve to complain because others say some truths which you do not like and you want to silence them.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:26 pm

Bananiot wrote:You so conveniently forget the ambient atmosphere Piratis. Of course, I do not remember a loud patriot and democrat like yourself complain when Papadopoulos was wildly accusing everyone who voted for the Annan Plan of being a paid agent of the enemy.

In case you did not get it, third time round, I repeat that Savva is the author of the article in "Politis" and he claims that we were getting ready to annihilate the Turkish Cypriots well in advance of December 1964. As a proof he sites his own experience. This is a man who fought with EOKA and you calling him a traitor because he told some truths shows that you have a distorted view of what is important to national interests. I for one, side with Dionysios Solomos, who kept repeating that "only the truth serves national interests".


Is this yet another one?
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:51 pm

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You so conveniently forget the ambient atmosphere Piratis. Of course, I do not remember a loud patriot and democrat like yourself complain when Papadopoulos was wildly accusing everyone who voted for the Annan Plan of being a paid agent of the enemy.


Papadopoulos never said that everybody who voted yes was a paid agent. Just a few specific people, and we all know that is true. So why should I complain. You have the right to talk about others don't?

In case you did not get it, third time round, I repeat that Savva is the author of the article in "Politis" and he claims that we were getting ready to annihilate the Turkish Cypriots well in advance of December 1964. As a proof he sites his own experience. This is a man who fought with EOKA and you calling him a traitor because he told some truths shows that you have a distorted view of what is important to national interests. I for one, side with Dionysios Solomos, who kept repeating that "only the truth serves national interests".


And why didn't we annihilate them then? :roll: It is either that a) Savva has no clue what he is talking about, or b) the one who said that thing to Savva (if indeed it happened) has no clue what he was talking about. Either way this theory has nothing to do with reality.

I like it how you never say anything about the actual annihilation that the Turks committed against us, but you are always quick to spread every theory that is against GCs. And then when you feel free to spread such crap you have the nerve to complain because others say some truths which you do not like and you want to silence them.


Lets clarify which annialation you keep harping on about?? any independent sources? please provide details.
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Re: More light shed on the events of 1963

Postby zan » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:22 am

Bananiot wrote:Demetris Christofias was the first RoC President who admitted publicly that both communities are to be blamed for the tragic events of December 1963. Until then it was solely believed that in 1963 the Turkish Cypriots performed a mutiny against the Cyprus Republic and that the Greek Cypriots simply fought back to preserve the unity of the island.

In today's "Politis" newspaper a former EOKA member and now a retired teacher sheds more light on the events. He recalls that in November 1963, officers of ELDYK and the Cypriot army, recruited all 120 male students of the Cyprus Teachers' Academy (bar one who was thought to be leftist) and were told that they would be trained in the use of arms because on December 25 there will follow an attack on the Turkish Cypriots that would result in the annihilation of all the Turkish Cypriots so that enosis would be declared. "Not even one Turkish cat will remain alive" they were told.

The above are written by Christos M. Savva, from Lysi.


I think we are missing something here as TCs...We must thank Bananiot Christos M. Savva for speaking the truth and exposing those on this forum that are just here to hide the truth. If people reading this forum cannot see Tpaps people working against a fair and just solution then they are as blind as the ones here that think that we cannot see what they are doing.
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Postby Eric dayi » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:51 am

Piratis wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:
Oracle wrote:
shahmaran wrote:[How far would you have gone with your murders IF Turkey had not interrupted?


There were no TC casualties before Turkey invaded.

Proportional government representation was what we had before you threw us out, no?


Firstly, it was not proportional representation by any stretch of the imagination, averaging out at about 40% power for 18% population; and secondly the TCs were not thrown out they walked away from their responsibilities.


Are you trying to lie that there were no TCs murdered by the GCs and Greeks from 1963 to 1974?

LIAR. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


The inter-communal conflict was from 1958 until 1968 and an about equal amount of GCs and TCs was murdered.

So stop lying that the conflict started in 1963, and stop lying that the conflict lasted until 1974.


The attempted genocide war on us TCs by you Greeks and GCs started in 1963 when you broke your word and tried to take over the whole of Cyprus to have your ENOSIS and carried on until 1974 when you Greeks and GCs tried a second genocide.

What happened between 1968 and 1974, was the TCs still living in enclaves or were they allowed to return to their home?

The answer is yes were still living in enclaves surrounded by the Greeks army and the GCs and were not allowed to return to our homes. Anyone who dared to step a foot outside of the enclaves disappeared never to be seen again. A TC man was shot in the leg with a dum dum bullet by a Greek or a GC even though he was riding his bicycle within the enclave. The dum dum bullet tore his leg off and crippled him for life.

And if you weren't in such a harry to lie your head off you would have first read that oracles (or phoenix or what ever she decided to call herself) claimed there were no TCs murdered before Turkey came in 1974.

You contradicted her lies with your lies and proved both of you as liars. All I can now say is, thank you.

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Postby Get Real! » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:07 am

Eric dayi wrote:The attempted genocide war on us TCs by you Greeks and GCs started in 1963 when you broke your word and tried to take over the whole of Cyprus to have your ENOSIS and carried on until 1974 when you Greeks and GCs tried a second genocide.

Well let's keep our fingers crossed that 3rd time BLOODY lucky eh? :roll:

So when's your birthday Eric? I'd like to schedule the next genocide (take III) on that special day and name it after you! 8)

Oh hang on, I think we should give you the choice since you like BIG words so take your pick because we offer many services...

1. Extermination
2. Genocide
3. Ethnic Cleansing
4. Massacre
5. Butchery
6. Slaughter
7. Mass Execution
8. Holocaust
9. Annihilation
10. Mass Termination
11. Obliteration

Have I left anything out? :? 8)
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Postby Eric dayi » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:25 am

Oracle wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:
Oracle wrote:
shahmaran wrote:[How far would you have gone with your murders IF Turkey had not interrupted?


There were no TC casualties before Turkey invaded.

Proportional government representation was what we had before you threw us out, no?


Firstly, it was not proportional representation by any stretch of the imagination, averaging out at about 40% power for 18% population; and secondly the TCs were not thrown out they walked away from their responsibilities.


Are you trying to lie that there were no TCs murdered by the GCs and Greeks from 1963 to 1974?

LIAR. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


The inter-communal conflict was from 1958 until 1968 and an about equal amount of GCs and TCs was murdered.

So stop lying that the conflict started in 1963, and stop lying that the conflict lasted until 1974.


There were 30 TC deaths (about 5 per year) between 1968 and 1974


Thank you little sock-puppet, you've just proven your comrades lies who keep lying to us and the world that NO TCs were murdered between 1968 and 1974.

and none around the time of the coup for it to form a reason for Turkey's invasion.


So first you pick us off one by one when ever you had the opportunity then you have your coup and try to make us believe that nothing would have happened to us had Turkey not intervened?

One GC/Greek tells one lie, another one tries to correct the first persons lie with another lie but makes a complete balls of it and then you wonder why you have no friends left in the world who believes your lies. and to help you with your ENOSIS dream.

Keep them coming. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby observer » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:50 pm

... and there we have it from Piratis, who I assume was not at the Teachers Academy, and despite it coming from someone who we would least expect to be a propagandist for Turkey knows it to be a lie because it does not agree with his opinion.
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