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[michalis5354]

Neither my family was involved in anyway on that struggle for Enosis. This is the reason I said some decided and imposed their will. My grandfather spoke fluently Greek and Turkish Languages , had many turkish cypriot friends and get on very well with TCs .

[unitedwestand]

The Greek newspaper Eleftherotipia published an interview with Nicos Sampson on Feb. 26,1981 in which he said, “Had Turkey not intervened I would not only have proclaimed enosis, I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus.”

I don't give a TOSS, and neither does any court of law in the world, about who SAID what but it's who DID what that matters!

Again, recommended further reading for you...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=11349

So we should dismiss the intent? You are living in denial.

[Get Real!]

The Greek newspaper Eleftherotipia published an interview with Nicos Sampson on Feb. 26,1981 in which he said, “Had Turkey not intervened I would not only have proclaimed enosis, I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus.”

I don't give a TOSS, and neither does any court of law in the world, about who SAID what but it's who DID what that matters!

Again, recommended further reading for you...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=11349

So we should dismiss the intent? You are living in denial.

If I were to drown you in malicious quotes made over the years by characters like Ataturk, Demirel, Chiler, Etcevit, and Denktash, would that give me the right to condemn YOU today?

There is only ONE thing that matters and that is FACTUAL EVENTS OF ACTION and not people's thoughts, nostalgias, assumptions, and similar virtual crap!

The question is not whether GR is “in denial” but whether YOU are MATURE ENOUGH to start looking at the Cyprus problem from a FACTUAL viewpoint as opposed to your emotional rollercoaster of misinformation.

[miltiades]

To cut a long story short…

The indisputable immediate aim of EOKA was the removal of the British colonialists from Cyprus. Now, if some or all of these EOKA members also had an additional underlying nostalgia to unite Cyprus with Greece at a later date, is something we’ll never know as nobody ever got that far, but everyone DID witness EOKA members fighting off the British.

Had you lived through the years 1955-1959 you would never have dismissed the fact that the struggle of which I was a small part had as its aim the Union of Cyrus with Greece.
ENOSIS WAS THE PREDOMINANT AIM .

Nobody can claim to have known the exact feelings of everyone else. My family and immediate relatives had no part, or any interest in ENOSIS whatsoever. It’s a shame a lot of trouble makers had made so much noise and seemingly condemned the entire population in the history books to assist Turkish propaganda today.

GR , The only people against the struggle and its aim were the Communists , AKEL was not only against the struggle , ENOSIS etc but also opposed and hindered leaflet distribution , this being a part of the number of actions that EOKA participated . Your correct in stating that not all people were supporters of ENOSIS , I do not dispute this , but I state clearly having lived though the struggle that the aim of EOKA was Union with Greece. You could really correctly assume that the President , Dimitris Christofias was against ENOSIS taking into account that he would have fallen in line with the then Communist ideals.

[unitedwestand]

The Greek newspaper Eleftherotipia published an interview with Nicos Sampson on Feb. 26,1981 in which he said, “Had Turkey not intervened I would not only have proclaimed enosis, I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus.”

I don't give a TOSS, and neither does any court of law in the world, about who SAID what but it's who DID what that matters!

Again, recommended further reading for you...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=11349

So we should dismiss the intent? You are living in denial.

If I were to drown you in malicious quotes made over the years by characters like Ataturk, Demirel, Chiler, Etcevit, and Denktash, would that give me the right to condemn YOU today?

There is only ONE thing that matters and that is FACTUAL EVENTS OF ACTION and not people's thoughts, nostalgias, assumptions, and similar virtual crap!

The question is not whether GR is “in denial” but whether YOU are MATURE ENOUGH to start looking at the Cyprus problem from a FACTUAL viewpoint as opposed to your emotional rollercoaster of misinformation.

The information is from a Greek newspaper and the quote is from Nicos Sampson. I do not condemn you, one day I wish to be living next to you in peace. I just wish you were a little more honest with me and yourself.

Why do you connect me to Turkey? I'm a Cypriot. I have no relatives or any contacts in Turkey.

What worries me is the fact that there are many more Nicos Sampsons in Cyprus today. We exchange posts with some of them on this very forum. We all know who they are.

[Get Real!]

The Greek newspaper Eleftherotipia published an interview with Nicos Sampson on Feb. 26,1981 in which he said, “Had Turkey not intervened I would not only have proclaimed enosis, I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus.”

I don't give a TOSS, and neither does any court of law in the world, about who SAID what but it's who DID what that matters!

Again, recommended further reading for you...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=11349

So we should dismiss the intent? You are living in denial.

If I were to drown you in malicious quotes made over the years by characters like Ataturk, Demirel, Chiler, Etcevit, and Denktash, would that give me the right to condemn YOU today?

There is only ONE thing that matters and that is FACTUAL EVENTS OF ACTION and not people's thoughts, nostalgias, assumptions, and similar virtual crap!

The question is not whether GR is “in denial” but whether YOU are MATURE ENOUGH to start looking at the Cyprus problem from a FACTUAL viewpoint as opposed to your emotional rollercoaster of misinformation.

The information is from a Greek newspaper and the quote is from Nicos Sampson. I do not condemn you, one day I wish to be living next to you in peace. I just wish you were a little more honest with me and yourself.

Why do you connect me to Turkey? I'm a Cypriot. I have no relatives or any contacts in Turkey.

What worries me is the fact that there are many more Nicos Sampsons in Cyprus today. We exchange posts with some of them on this very forum. We all know who they are.

Bye-bye! Give me a shout when you're old enough...

[74LB]

Apologies for going off the EOKA/Enosis track ...

Oracle said...

.......since we have a great situation in the EU being two countries; Greece and Cyprus, with one veto each! .... That makes TWO!

Just like the good old Eurovision song contest hey !

[miltiades]

The Greek newspaper Eleftherotipia published an interview with Nicos Sampson on Feb. 26,1981 in which he said, “Had Turkey not intervened I would not only have proclaimed enosis, I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus.”

I don't give a TOSS, and neither does any court of law in the world, about who SAID what but it's who DID what that matters!

Again, recommended further reading for you...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=11349

So we should dismiss the intent? You are living in denial.

If I were to drown you in malicious quotes made over the years by characters like Ataturk, Demirel, Chiler, Etcevit, and Denktash, would that give me the right to condemn YOU today?

There is only ONE thing that matters and that is FACTUAL EVENTS OF ACTION and not people's thoughts, nostalgias, assumptions, and similar virtual crap!

The question is not whether GR is “in denial” but whether YOU are MATURE ENOUGH to start looking at the Cyprus problem from a FACTUAL viewpoint as opposed to your emotional rollercoaster of misinformation.

The information is from a Greek newspaper and the quote is from Nicos Sampson. I do not condemn you, one day I wish to be living next to you in peace. I just wish you were a little more honest with me and yourself.

Why do you connect me to Turkey? I'm a Cypriot. I have no relatives or any contacts in Turkey.

What worries me is the fact that there are many more Nicos Sampsons in Cyprus today. We exchange posts with some of them on this very forum. We all know who they are.

Indeed why connect you or for that matter other T/Cs to Turkey , on the other hand why connect me or other G/Cs to Greece. We are , just like you Cypriots.
The Nicos Sampsons of today are few and far between . The average G/C , who is also the overwhelming majority , want nothing to do with any Union with Greece , as a matter of fact since both nations , Greece and Cyprus are full members of the most successful union in the history of the world , you can say that ENOSIS has been achieve but it also includes all of Europe give or take a few nations. Shortly , 10-15 years from now Turkey will be part of that ENOSIS So hopefully our people will have less of a need to consider either of these two nations as their motherlands.
Your statement " Why do you connect me to Turkey? I'm a Cypriot. ""
makes me particularly happy and proud !! Keep it up brother .

[Oracle]

Apologies for going off the EOKA/Enosis track ...

Oracle said...

.......since we have a great situation in the EU being two countries; Greece and Cyprus, with one veto each! .... That makes TWO!

Just like the good old Eurovision song contest hey !

Hello 74LB

Good of you to join in with a little light hearted banter!

Will you be watching next month?

[Oracle]

[The choice of Independence was never put in front of the GCs and TCs to decide by the EOKA boys..

On this matter the GCs asked for a referendum in 1954. The undemocratic TCs refused. What followed was violence which may have been prevented had the minority TCs agreed to a referendum.

It's not often the minority can wield as much power as the TCs seemed to have achieved over the years in Cyprus.

(Oh .. I forgot they had Turkey behind them .... that seems to clinch the deal!)