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[Piratis]

And what is wrong with Cyprus wanting its liberation from foreign empires and dreaming to be part of a free Greek state???? Was it wrong when the Athenians, or the Peloponisians, or the Cretans or any other Greek island and territory revolted against their foreign oppressors in order to be liberated and be part of a free Greek state?

Are you going to tell me that because the Turks had spread minorities in most parts of their empire, the nations under the Ottoman empire should have never been allowed to be liberated??

The fact VP is that you attacked us, and you made plans and demands for our annihilation, because according to you we committed the "crime" of dreaming to be free from foreign oppressors.

There was absolutely nothing wrong with Cypriots, Cretans, Athenians and Greek people in general to want their freedom from foreign rulers. What is wrong, is you attacking us, and making demands for our annihilation from the north part of our island.

[Piratis]

Cyprus had no right to be under GREECE , TURKEY or BRITAIN ! Very simple

Cyprus had every right to be independent (with a constidution written by Cypriots) or part of any country the people of the island choose in a democratic way.

That is what decolonization means. That foreign rulers stop imposing their rule, and allow the people of the territory to freely take the decisions in a democratic way.

http://www.un.org/Depts/dpi/decolonizat ... ration.htm

[michalis5354]

Piratis Cyprus was never under Greek teritory. you ignore all the other people that have been on the island beofre or after the Greeks arrived. It should had been indepoendent from the begining and embrace independence as this was ONLY the right option to do.

[michalis5354]

Again you equate Cypriots with Athenians this is TOTALLY MISLEADING.

[Piratis]

The Greek state was formed in 1821. Maybe there were no Greeks before that according to your theory?? What is true for Cyprus is true for every other Greek island and territory.

Cyprus has been Greek for 3500 years, and being part of a free Greek state is what the vast majority of Cypriots themselves wanted. Nobody had the right to deny to the Cypriot people their freedom and self determination.

[michalis5354]

Anyone who wants to live to a pure Greek State then he needs to move to Greece. Why change the culture and the history to suit your own agendas Cyprus was never part of Greek or turkish territory.

[Piratis]

Again you equate Cypriots with Athenians this is TOTALLY MISLEADING.

Why is misleading?? Athens was a city state in the mainland, like it was Sparta, Argos, Salamina and the other Greek city states we had in Cyprus.

Athens, then was part of the empire of Alexander the Great, later Byzantium and later the Ottoman empire. So was Cyprus.

So tell me how is Cyprus different than Athens or Crete or Rhodes or any other Greek territory and island?

They are all territories where the population and the culture is predominantly Greek for 1000s of years, and after being part of various foreign empires they revolted to form their own free Greek state.

[michalis5354]

piratis Cyprus had never had the statues of Crete or other Greek island. Greece had never claimed Cyprus as a Greek teritory and it had no right to. only a group has tried to impose its will to the rest to achieve union with Greece which has proved to be wrong after 50 years.

[Piratis]

Anyone who wants to live to a pure Greek State then he needs to move to Greece. Why change the culture and the history to suit your own agendas Cyprus was never part of Greek or turkish territory.

I don't want to change anything at all in Cyprus. Neither I want anything "pure". Cyprus, like every other place in the world today, is a multicultural place and I have absolutely no problem with that.

What I have a problem with is when foreigners impose on us what we should do with our own island.

I am not asking for Cyprus to be part of the Greek state today, and neither I want that. It is up to Cypriots themselves to decide. If the Cypriots want to be a separate state (this is what I want) there is no problem to have two Hellenic states, in the same way there are several Slavic states.

But trying to fake the Cypriot history and deny the fact that Cyprus is and has been for 1000s of years predominantly Greek, is something I do not accept.

The Turks today have ethnically cleansed the majority of Cypriots from the north part of our country, replaced them with foreign Settlers, changed the names of our villages and do their best to destroy everything Greek and Christian in their effort to forcefully and unnaturally create some fake Cyprus in the part the illegally occupy.

[michalis5354]

The Turks today have ethnically cleansed the majority of Cypriots from the north part of our country, replaced them with foreign Settlers, changed the names of our villages and do their best to destroy everything Greek and Christian in their effort to forcefully and unnaturally create some fake Cyprus in the part the illegally occupy.

This is the reason the cyprus issue has not been solved yet and we are working to achieve a settlement. Unless of course you are happy with partition .....

I also do not accept that the Greeks were the only inhabitants and were the sole contributors to the Cyprus culture