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Postby Eric dayi » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:32 pm

Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:
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EU must be concerned for some reason if they feel necessary to caution the RoC. No smoke where there is no fire.


The RoC is not the first country the EU cautioned Deniz, that's all I'm saying. Of course there is an issue in both Cyprus and Greece, but it's within acceptable EU limits


OK, we understand each other. Till I read your last sentence.

So now its @egal' abuse/torture. Why? One of the privileges of being in the EU.

Turkey better hurry up with its entry so it can torture PKK murderers 'legally'.


This was an isolated case. Even Australian police has been criticized for brutality in the past. But you would be hard pressed finding any human rights violations for Australia or Cyprus. I beleive every police force in every country has had atleast minor incidences of violence and corruption. No country is immune from these kind of problems.

Turkey for example has a massive human rights rap sheet that Iran, Saudi Arabia and Iraq would be proud of. And if anyone asks me to provide proof, then I will provide links. All you guys have to do is just ask me to do so and I will respond in kind. I have dozens of links on standby. :lol:



Go ahead Bafidis. We know the arsenal is full of......it will end up in a larger ....match. Goodluck. I dont see why you needed my aproval. You have been dying to unleash the next anti Turk salvo.

All duck, here it comes :roll: .........


:shock: Did not ask for your approval? Nor do I need it.

Do I have to remind you who has been posting these baseless allegations.

Over one police brutality case in Cyprus, Eric and co are rushing to label the RoC with human rights violations comparable to Afghanistan under the Taliban.

Do not tempt me Deniz. I am more than willing to counter lies and misinformation and if that means that I start a slinging match with Eric and Co, then so be it.


First of all you either did not read the article I posted properly or you didn't understand it because you don't want to. The article is more than about one single "isolated incident".

Secondly, there's always some anti Turkish/TC/TRNC threads from some disgruntled racist idiots especially in the last couple of days.

Thirdly, does the shoe hurt when it's on the other foot? :wink: :wink: :wink:
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Postby Eric dayi » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:34 pm

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Get Real! wrote:Eric, if the “TRNC” really wants to help the situation then please stop bringing illegal immigrants to Cyprus so we won’t have to “torture” them!


If you want to help then get your police to better protect the border to stop the illegals from entering the so-called "RoC" but maybe they let the foreigners in on purpose so that they have enough people to practice what alesiXX says is "acceptable" and "expected" torture within the EU limits. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


What border? There is no border. I have no idea what you are talking about. :lol:


Ask GR. :wink: :wink: :wink:
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:35 pm

Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
alexISS wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:alexISS,

EU must be concerned for some reason if they feel necessary to caution the RoC. No smoke where there is no fire.


The RoC is not the first country the EU cautioned Deniz, that's all I'm saying. Of course there is an issue in both Cyprus and Greece, but it's within acceptable EU limits


OK, we understand each other. Till I read your last sentence.

So now its @egal' abuse/torture. Why? One of the privileges of being in the EU.

Turkey better hurry up with its entry so it can torture PKK murderers 'legally'.


This was an isolated case. Even Australian police has been criticized for brutality in the past. But you would be hard pressed finding any human rights violations for Australia or Cyprus. I beleive every police force in every country has had atleast minor incidences of violence and corruption. No country is immune from these kind of problems.

Turkey for example has a massive human rights rap sheet that Iran, Saudi Arabia and Iraq would be proud of. And if anyone asks me to provide proof, then I will provide links. All you guys have to do is just ask me to do so and I will respond in kind. I have dozens of links on standby. :lol:



Go ahead Bafidis. We know the arsenal is full of......it will end up in a larger ....match. Goodluck. I dont see why you needed my aproval. You have been dying to unleash the next anti Turk salvo.

All duck, here it comes :roll: .........


:shock: Did not ask for your approval. Nor do I need it.

Do I have to remind you who has been posting these baseless allegations.

Over one police brutality case in Cyprus, Eric and co are rushing to label the RoC with human rights violations comparable to Afghanistan under the Taliban.

Do not tempt me Deniz. I am more than willing to counter lies and misinformation and if that means that I start a slinging match with Eric and Co, then so be it.



Yes, published in a daily paper in the south. If they are lies, why dont the RoC do something about it (take the paper to court).

These things do go on. Turkey might be the biggest culprit, only because they have a population of 70 million or thereabouts. 20 million of them unruly. And ofcourse they go on all over. If you want to start a tit-for-tat, some will be pleased to oblige. I will not.


I know of the case. They are not lies. The former police officers have been charged and a full scale enquiry is investigating the matter.

What is a lie is the incinuation that these acts are common place in the RoC. The fact is that these acts are as isolated as what they are in Australia, New Zealand, Sweden and Finland. Turkey on the other hand.................................well I could haved a field day about that!



Why spoil your fun? I am sure others are vying too to join the afray.

Tomorrow at dawn, bring your seconds.
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Postby alexISS » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:37 pm

Eric dayi, your attitude explains why Turkey is still so backward when compared to Greece or Cyprus. You should spend more time dealing with the honor killings, the white cells, the persecution of journalists and Prime Ministers and the poverty of your own people and less time digging up condemning articles about Greece or Cyprus
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:39 pm

Eric dayi wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
alexISS wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:alexISS,

EU must be concerned for some reason if they feel necessary to caution the RoC. No smoke where there is no fire.


The RoC is not the first country the EU cautioned Deniz, that's all I'm saying. Of course there is an issue in both Cyprus and Greece, but it's within acceptable EU limits


OK, we understand each other. Till I read your last sentence.

So now its @egal' abuse/torture. Why? One of the privileges of being in the EU.

Turkey better hurry up with its entry so it can torture PKK murderers 'legally'.


This was an isolated case. Even Australian police has been criticized for brutality in the past. But you would be hard pressed finding any human rights violations for Australia or Cyprus. I beleive every police force in every country has had atleast minor incidences of violence and corruption. No country is immune from these kind of problems.

Turkey for example has a massive human rights rap sheet that Iran, Saudi Arabia and Iraq would be proud of. And if anyone asks me to provide proof, then I will provide links. All you guys have to do is just ask me to do so and I will respond in kind. I have dozens of links on standby. :lol:



Go ahead Bafidis. We know the arsenal is full of......it will end up in a larger ....match. Goodluck. I dont see why you needed my aproval. You have been dying to unleash the next anti Turk salvo.

All duck, here it comes :roll: .........


:shock: Did not ask for your approval? Nor do I need it.

Do I have to remind you who has been posting these baseless allegations.

Over one police brutality case in Cyprus, Eric and co are rushing to label the RoC with human rights violations comparable to Afghanistan under the Taliban.

Do not tempt me Deniz. I am more than willing to counter lies and misinformation and if that means that I start a slinging match with Eric and Co, then so be it.


First of all you either did not read the article I posted properly or you didn't understand it because you don't want to. The article is more than about one single "isolated incident".

Secondly, there's always some anti Turkish/TC/TRNC threads from some disgruntled racist idiots especially in the last couple of days.

Thirdly, does the shoe hurt when it's on the other foot? :wink: :wink: :wink:


That link is just fine coming from the Cyprus Mail. I have a family member who is a guard at the Nicosia Prison. A prison that I have also visited in the past and I can assure you that the prison is of high standards. I seriously do not beleive that officers torture detainers. What I can tell you is that around half the detainees are illegal immigrants who are awaiting their deportation, and their complaints are just a means of delaying the process and appealing the court decisions by using the EU as the medium.
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Postby Eric dayi » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:41 pm

Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
alexISS wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:alexISS,

EU must be concerned for some reason if they feel necessary to caution the RoC. No smoke where there is no fire.


The RoC is not the first country the EU cautioned Deniz, that's all I'm saying. Of course there is an issue in both Cyprus and Greece, but it's within acceptable EU limits


OK, we understand each other. Till I read your last sentence.

So now its @egal' abuse/torture. Why? One of the privileges of being in the EU.

Turkey better hurry up with its entry so it can torture PKK murderers 'legally'.


This was an isolated case. Even Australian police has been criticized for brutality in the past. But you would be hard pressed finding any human rights violations for Australia or Cyprus. I beleive every police force in every country has had atleast minor incidences of violence and corruption. No country is immune from these kind of problems.

Turkey for example has a massive human rights rap sheet that Iran, Saudi Arabia and Iraq would be proud of. And if anyone asks me to provide proof, then I will provide links. All you guys have to do is just ask me to do so and I will respond in kind. I have dozens of links on standby. :lol:



Go ahead Bafidis. We know the arsenal is full of......it will end up in a larger ....match. Goodluck. I dont see why you needed my aproval. You have been dying to unleash the next anti Turk salvo.

All duck, here it comes :roll: .........


:shock: Did not ask for your approval. Nor do I need it.

Do I have to remind you who has been posting these baseless allegations.

Over one police brutality case in Cyprus, Eric and co are rushing to label the RoC with human rights violations comparable to Afghanistan under the Taliban.

Do not tempt me Deniz. I am more than willing to counter lies and misinformation and if that means that I start a slinging match with Eric and Co, then so be it.



Yes, published in a daily paper in the south. If they are lies, why dont the RoC do something about it (take the paper to court).

These things do go on. Turkey might be the biggest culprit, only because they have a population of 70 million or thereabouts. 20 million of them unruly. And ofcourse they go on all over. If you want to start a tit-for-tat, some will be pleased to oblige. I will not.


I know of the case. They[/color][/size][/b] are not lies. The former police officers have been charged and a full scale enquiry is investigating the matter.

What is a lie is the incinuation that these acts are common place in the RoC. The fact is that these acts are as isolated as what they are in Australia, New Zealand, Sweden and Finland. Turkey on the other hand.................................well I could haved a field day about that!


"case" = singular.

"they" = plural.

"acts" = plural

And you call it an "isolated case"? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Eric dayi » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:44 pm

alexISS wrote:Eric dayi, your attitude explains why Turkey is still so backward when compared to Greece or Cyprus. You should spend more time dealing with the honor killings, the white cells, the persecution of journalists and Prime Ministers and the poverty of your own people and less time digging up condemning articles about Greece or Cyprus


That's it mate, you try and draw attention away from the so-called "RoC" and Greece, there's good boy. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:44 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
alexISS wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:alexISS,

EU must be concerned for some reason if they feel necessary to caution the RoC. No smoke where there is no fire.


The RoC is not the first country the EU cautioned Deniz, that's all I'm saying. Of course there is an issue in both Cyprus and Greece, but it's within acceptable EU limits


OK, we understand each other. Till I read your last sentence.

So now its @egal' abuse/torture. Why? One of the privileges of being in the EU.

Turkey better hurry up with its entry so it can torture PKK murderers 'legally'.


This was an isolated case. Even Australian police has been criticized for brutality in the past. But you would be hard pressed finding any human rights violations for Australia or Cyprus. I beleive every police force in every country has had atleast minor incidences of violence and corruption. No country is immune from these kind of problems.

Turkey for example has a massive human rights rap sheet that Iran, Saudi Arabia and Iraq would be proud of. And if anyone asks me to provide proof, then I will provide links. All you guys have to do is just ask me to do so and I will respond in kind. I have dozens of links on standby. :lol:



Go ahead Bafidis. We know the arsenal is full of......it will end up in a larger ....match. Goodluck. I dont see why you needed my aproval. You have been dying to unleash the next anti Turk salvo.

All duck, here it comes :roll: .........


:shock: Did not ask for your approval. Nor do I need it.

Do I have to remind you who has been posting these baseless allegations.

Over one police brutality case in Cyprus, Eric and co are rushing to label the RoC with human rights violations comparable to Afghanistan under the Taliban.

Do not tempt me Deniz. I am more than willing to counter lies and misinformation and if that means that I start a slinging match with Eric and Co, then so be it.



Yes, published in a daily paper in the south. If they are lies, why dont the RoC do something about it (take the paper to court).

These things do go on. Turkey might be the biggest culprit, only because they have a population of 70 million or thereabouts. 20 million of them unruly. And ofcourse they go on all over. If you want to start a tit-for-tat, some will be pleased to oblige. I will not.


I know of the case. They are not lies. The former police officers have been charged and a full scale enquiry is investigating the matter.

What is a lie is the incinuation that these acts are common place in the RoC. The fact is that these acts are as isolated as what they are in Australia, New Zealand, Sweden and Finland. Turkey on the other hand.................................well I could haved a field day about that!



Why spoil your fun? I am sure others are vying too to join the afray.

Tomorrow at dawn, bring your seconds.


:lol: Deniz. I am very surprised at your attitude. I thought that you stand to reason but I may be wrong.

I could very easily turn this thread into a slinging match but I have so far refrained. I suggest that you control your racist bigot friends (Eric and Co) by getting them to also respond in kind and stop throwing slanderous misinformation.
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Postby Eric dayi » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:45 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
alexISS wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:alexISS,

EU must be concerned for some reason if they feel necessary to caution the RoC. No smoke where there is no fire.


The RoC is not the first country the EU cautioned Deniz, that's all I'm saying. Of course there is an issue in both Cyprus and Greece, but it's within acceptable EU limits


OK, we understand each other. Till I read your last sentence.

So now its @egal' abuse/torture. Why? One of the privileges of being in the EU.

Turkey better hurry up with its entry so it can torture PKK murderers 'legally'.


This was an isolated case. Even Australian police has been criticized for brutality in the past. But you would be hard pressed finding any human rights violations for Australia or Cyprus. I beleive every police force in every country has had atleast minor incidences of violence and corruption. No country is immune from these kind of problems.

Turkey for example has a massive human rights rap sheet that Iran, Saudi Arabia and Iraq would be proud of. And if anyone asks me to provide proof, then I will provide links. All you guys have to do is just ask me to do so and I will respond in kind. I have dozens of links on standby. :lol:



Go ahead Bafidis. We know the arsenal is full of......it will end up in a larger ....match. Goodluck. I dont see why you needed my aproval. You have been dying to unleash the next anti Turk salvo.

All duck, here it comes :roll: .........


:shock: Did not ask for your approval? Nor do I need it.

Do I have to remind you who has been posting these baseless allegations.

Over one police brutality case in Cyprus, Eric and co are rushing to label the RoC with human rights violations comparable to Afghanistan under the Taliban.

Do not tempt me Deniz. I am more than willing to counter lies and misinformation and if that means that I start a slinging match with Eric and Co, then so be it.


First of all you either did not read the article I posted properly or you didn't understand it because you don't want to. The article is more than about one single "isolated incident".

Secondly, there's always some anti Turkish/TC/TRNC threads from some disgruntled racist idiots especially in the last couple of days.

Thirdly, does the shoe hurt when it's on the other foot? :wink: :wink: :wink:


That link is just fine coming from the Cyprus Mail. I ahve a family member who is a guard at the Nicosia Prison. A prison that I have also visited in the past and I can assure you that the prison is of high standards. I seriously do not beleive that officers torture detainers. What I can tell you is that around half the detainees are illegal immigrants who are awaiting their deportation, and their complaints are just a means of delaying the process and appealing the court decisions by using the EU as the medium.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Very funny. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby alexISS » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:47 pm

Eric dayi wrote:
alexISS wrote:Eric dayi, your attitude explains why Turkey is still so backward when compared to Greece or Cyprus. You should spend more time dealing with the honor killings, the white cells, the persecution of journalists and Prime Ministers and the poverty of your own people and less time digging up condemning articles about Greece or Cyprus


That's it mate, you try and draw attention away from the so-called "RoC" and Greece, there's good boy. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Oh no I wouldn't do that to you!

GREECE AND CYPRUS SUCK!
GREECE AND CYPRUS SUCK!
GREECE AND CYPRUS SUCK!
GREECE AND CYPRUS SUCK!
GREECE AND CYPRUS SUCK!
GREECE AND CYPRUS SUCK!

Feel better? Is Turkey a better place to live now? :lol:

Good to see you refer to the RoC as Cyprus now btw :lol:
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