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[alexISS]

alexISS,

EU must be concerned for some reason if they feel necessary to caution the RoC. No smoke where there is no fire.

The RoC is not the first country the EU cautioned Deniz, that's all I'm saying. Of course there is an issue in both Cyprus and Greece, but it's within acceptable EU limits

OK, we understand each other. Till I read your last sentence.

So now its @egal' abuse/torture. Why? One of the privileges of being in the EU.

Turkey better hurry up with its entry so it can torture PKK murderers 'legally'.

Did I say it's legal to abuse? I said that a certain level of corruption in the police force is expected, even in EU countries. Both Greece and Cyprus have it, both need to reduce it, both are not above the EU police corruption average. I hope I've expressed my view clearer this time

[Paphitis]

alexISS,

EU must be concerned for some reason if they feel necessary to caution the RoC. No smoke where there is no fire.

The RoC is not the first country the EU cautioned Deniz, that's all I'm saying. Of course there is an issue in both Cyprus and Greece, but it's within acceptable EU limits

OK, we understand each other. Till I read your last sentence.

So now its @egal' abuse/torture. Why? One of the privileges of being in the EU.

Turkey better hurry up with its entry so it can torture PKK murderers 'legally'.

This was an isolated case. Even Australian police has been criticized for brutality in the past. But you would be hard pressed finding any human rights violations for Australia or Cyprus. I beleive every police force in every country has had atleast minor incidences of violence and corruption. No country is immune from these kind of problems.

Turkey for example has a massive human rights rap sheet that Iran, Saudi Arabia and Iraq would be proud of. And if anyone asks me to provide proof, then I will provide links. All you guys have to do is just ask me to do so and I will respond in kind. I have dozens of links on standby.

[denizaksulu]

alexISS,

EU must be concerned for some reason if they feel necessary to caution the RoC. No smoke where there is no fire.

The RoC is not the first country the EU cautioned Deniz, that's all I'm saying. Of course there is an issue in both Cyprus and Greece, but it's within acceptable EU limits

OK, we understand each other. Till I read your last sentence.

So now its @egal' abuse/torture. Why? One of the privileges of being in the EU.

Turkey better hurry up with its entry so it can torture PKK murderers 'legally'.

This was an isolated case. Even Australian police has been criticized for brutality in the past. But you would be hard pressed finding any human rights violations for Australia or Cyprus. I beleive every police force in every country has had atleast minor incidences of violence and corruption. No country is immune from these kind of problems.

Turkey for example has a massive human rights rap sheet that Iran, Saudi Arabia and Iraq would be proud of. And if anyone asks me to provide proof, then I will provide links. All you guys have to do is just ask me to do so and I will respond in kind. I have dozens of links on standby.

Go ahead Bafidis. We know the arsenal is full of......it will end up in a larger ....match. Goodluck. I dont see why you needed my aproval. You have been dying to unleash the next anti Turk salvo.

All duck, here it comes .........

[Paphitis]

alexISS,

EU must be concerned for some reason if they feel necessary to caution the RoC. No smoke where there is no fire.

The RoC is not the first country the EU cautioned Deniz, that's all I'm saying. Of course there is an issue in both Cyprus and Greece, but it's within acceptable EU limits

OK, we understand each other. Till I read your last sentence.

So now its @egal' abuse/torture. Why? One of the privileges of being in the EU.

Turkey better hurry up with its entry so it can torture PKK murderers 'legally'.

This was an isolated case. Even Australian police has been criticized for brutality in the past. But you would be hard pressed finding any human rights violations for Australia or Cyprus. I beleive every police force in every country has had atleast minor incidences of violence and corruption. No country is immune from these kind of problems.

Turkey for example has a massive human rights rap sheet that Iran, Saudi Arabia and Iraq would be proud of. And if anyone asks me to provide proof, then I will provide links. All you guys have to do is just ask me to do so and I will respond in kind. I have dozens of links on standby.

Go ahead Bafidis. We know the arsenal is full of......it will end up in a larger ....match. Goodluck. I dont see why you needed my aproval. You have been dying to unleash the next anti Turk salvo.

All duck, here it comes .........

Did not ask for your approval? Nor do I need it.

Do I have to remind you who has been posting these baseless allegations.

Over one police brutality case in Cyprus, Eric and co are rushing to label the RoC with human rights violations comparable to Afghanistan under the Taliban.

Do not tempt me Deniz. I am more than willing to counter lies and misinformation and if that means that I start a slinging match with Eric and Co, then so be it.

[Eric dayi]

Eric, if the “TRNC” really wants to help the situation then please stop bringing illegal immigrants to Cyprus so we won’t have to “torture” them!

If you want to help then get your police to better protect the border to stop the illegals from entering the so-called "RoC" but maybe they let the foreigners in on purpose so that they have enough people to practice what alesiXX says is "acceptable" and "expected" torture within the EU limits.

[denizaksulu]

alexISS,

EU must be concerned for some reason if they feel necessary to caution the RoC. No smoke where there is no fire.

The RoC is not the first country the EU cautioned Deniz, that's all I'm saying. Of course there is an issue in both Cyprus and Greece, but it's within acceptable EU limits

OK, we understand each other. Till I read your last sentence.

So now its @egal' abuse/torture. Why? One of the privileges of being in the EU.

Turkey better hurry up with its entry so it can torture PKK murderers 'legally'.

This was an isolated case. Even Australian police has been criticized for brutality in the past. But you would be hard pressed finding any human rights violations for Australia or Cyprus. I beleive every police force in every country has had atleast minor incidences of violence and corruption. No country is immune from these kind of problems.

Turkey for example has a massive human rights rap sheet that Iran, Saudi Arabia and Iraq would be proud of. And if anyone asks me to provide proof, then I will provide links. All you guys have to do is just ask me to do so and I will respond in kind. I have dozens of links on standby.

Go ahead Bafidis. We know the arsenal is full of......it will end up in a larger ....match. Goodluck. I dont see why you needed my aproval. You have been dying to unleash the next anti Turk salvo.

All duck, here it comes .........

Did not ask for your approval. Nor do I need it.

Do I have to remind you who has been posting these baseless allegations.

Over one police brutality case in Cyprus, Eric and co are rushing to label the RoC with human rights violations comparable to Afghanistan under the Taliban.

Do not tempt me Deniz. I am more than willing to counter lies and misinformation and if that means that I start a slinging match with Eric and Co, then so be it.

Yes, published in a daily paper in the south. If they are lies, why dont the RoC do something about it (take the paper to court).

These things do go on. Turkey might be the biggest culprit, only because they have a population of 70 million or thereabouts. 20 million of them unruly. And ofcourse they go on all over. If you want to start a tit-for-tat, some will be pleased to oblige. I will not.

[denizaksulu]

alexISS,

EU must be concerned for some reason if they feel necessary to caution the RoC. No smoke where there is no fire.

The RoC is not the first country the EU cautioned Deniz, that's all I'm saying. Of course there is an issue in both Cyprus and Greece, but it's within acceptable EU limits

OK, we understand each other. Till I read your last sentence.

So now its @egal' abuse/torture. Why? One of the privileges of being in the EU.

Turkey better hurry up with its entry so it can torture PKK murderers 'legally'.

Did I say it's legal to abuse? I said that a certain level of corruption in the police force is expected, even in EU countries. Both Greece and Cyprus have it, both need to reduce it, both are not above the EU police corruption average. I hope I've expressed my view clearer this time

Therefor what you said here, "but it's within acceptable EU limits" is not valid? Fine

[Paphitis]

alexISS,

EU must be concerned for some reason if they feel necessary to caution the RoC. No smoke where there is no fire.

The RoC is not the first country the EU cautioned Deniz, that's all I'm saying. Of course there is an issue in both Cyprus and Greece, but it's within acceptable EU limits

OK, we understand each other. Till I read your last sentence.

So now its @egal' abuse/torture. Why? One of the privileges of being in the EU.

Turkey better hurry up with its entry so it can torture PKK murderers 'legally'.

This was an isolated case. Even Australian police has been criticized for brutality in the past. But you would be hard pressed finding any human rights violations for Australia or Cyprus. I beleive every police force in every country has had atleast minor incidences of violence and corruption. No country is immune from these kind of problems.

Turkey for example has a massive human rights rap sheet that Iran, Saudi Arabia and Iraq would be proud of. And if anyone asks me to provide proof, then I will provide links. All you guys have to do is just ask me to do so and I will respond in kind. I have dozens of links on standby.

Go ahead Bafidis. We know the arsenal is full of......it will end up in a larger ....match. Goodluck. I dont see why you needed my aproval. You have been dying to unleash the next anti Turk salvo.

All duck, here it comes .........

Did not ask for your approval. Nor do I need it.

Do I have to remind you who has been posting these baseless allegations.

Over one police brutality case in Cyprus, Eric and co are rushing to label the RoC with human rights violations comparable to Afghanistan under the Taliban.

Do not tempt me Deniz. I am more than willing to counter lies and misinformation and if that means that I start a slinging match with Eric and Co, then so be it.

Yes, published in a daily paper in the south. If they are lies, why dont the RoC do something about it (take the paper to court).

These things do go on. Turkey might be the biggest culprit, only because they have a population of 70 million or thereabouts. 20 million of them unruly. And ofcourse they go on all over. If you want to start a tit-for-tat, some will be pleased to oblige. I will not.

I know of the case. They are not lies. The former police officers have been charged and a full scale enquiry is investigating the matter.

What is a lie is the incinuation that these acts are common place in the RoC. The fact is that these acts are as isolated as what they are in Australia, New Zealand, Sweden and Finland. Turkey on the other hand.................................well I could haved a field day about that!

[Paphitis]

Eric, if the “TRNC” really wants to help the situation then please stop bringing illegal immigrants to Cyprus so we won’t have to “torture” them!

If you want to help then get your police to better protect the border to stop the illegals from entering the so-called "RoC" but maybe they let the foreigners in on purpose so that they have enough people to practice what alesiXX says is "acceptable" and "expected" torture within the EU limits.

What border? There is no border. I have no idea what you are talking about.

[alexISS]

alexISS,

EU must be concerned for some reason if they feel necessary to caution the RoC. No smoke where there is no fire.

The RoC is not the first country the EU cautioned Deniz, that's all I'm saying. Of course there is an issue in both Cyprus and Greece, but it's within acceptable EU limits

OK, we understand each other. Till I read your last sentence.

So now its @egal' abuse/torture. Why? One of the privileges of being in the EU.

Turkey better hurry up with its entry so it can torture PKK murderers 'legally'.

Did I say it's legal to abuse? I said that a certain level of corruption in the police force is expected, even in EU countries. Both Greece and Cyprus have it, both need to reduce it, both are not above the EU police corruption average. I hope I've expressed my view clearer this time

Therefor what you said here, "but it's within acceptable EU limits" is not valid? Fine

I was talking about the corruption rate, Deniz, not the events themselves!