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Re: Torture report puts police in the spotlight

Postby denizaksulu » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:44 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:
Torture report puts police in the spotlight
By Rula Aweidah

THE COUNCIL of Europe has warned Cyprus it needs to do more to stamp out ill-treatment of detainees in police custody after a visit by a special committee on torture received many “complaints of ill-treatment” in police custody, some of which “was of such a severity that it could be considered as amounting to torture”.

The visit by the Committee for the Prevention of Torture and Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (CPT) took place in December 2004, and its report was approved by the Council of Europe in July 2005. It was released today, after the Cyprus government finally gave its green light for the findings to be published.

Publication of the report is always at the request of the country involved, and usually comes before the next review, scheduled every four years.

In its response to the report, dated April 2006, the government says many of the recommendations have been, or are in the process of being, adopted.

The report devoted much of its attention to conditions in police custody, saying the CPT delegation had received many complaints of ill-treatment

“The forms of ill-treatment alleged consisted in the main of slaps, kicks and punches to the head and body, including the genitals, with the detained person sometimes undressed and/or handcuffed. Allegations of ill-treatment also included the banging of heads on a desk, blows with batons or other objects and violence of a sexual nature.

“In a few cases, the ill-treatment alleged was of such a severity that it could be considered as amounting to torture.”

The report added: “The risk of ill-treatment appeared to be particularly high in respect of foreign nationals, the conditions under which many of them were being detained were entirely unacceptable and could, in some cases, be regarded as inhuman and degrading.”

The report highlighted the case of one foreign detainee, who claimed that during an interview at the Central Prison, he had been severely ill-treated. “The first alleged incident consisted of punches and kicks to the face, chest and abdomen. The detainee further alleged that, during the night, he had been made to undress and had, while in a standing position, been hooded and shackled by the wrists and ankles to bars in the police prison, whereupon police officers had hit him violently on various parts of the body, including his genitals.”



Tuesday, April 2008.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=38718

The whiter than white so-called "RoC".

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Deniz where are you.

Do I have to go back to posting links.

As I said before, this racist bigot needs to grow up. :roll:



Sorry for the delay Bafidis,

I was trying to establish who posted the first anti TC or GC link.
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Postby zan » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:02 am

pantheman wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: OMG, its another case of the kettle calling the pot black. F hypocrites, your whole stinking country Turkey is guilty of human abuse never mind the few GC cops. Morons

Now you can feel some empathy!!!!
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:40 am

Doubt it Zan :lol:

Greece is pretty much the same, both in the EU, not surprising i must say, yet they feel big enough to blame other countries for committing such crimes, sort out your own house first...
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Postby Nikitas » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:59 am

Fact 1- There is an INDEPENDENT body investigating complaints against the police, by contrast in the UK these are investigated by the police themselves and in Turkey there is no mechanism of investigating complaints against the police at all.

Fact 2- The complaints when substantiated result in prosecutions. The officers who beat up the two students are on trial right now. How many trials of police officers are there in Turkey or the UK?
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:08 pm

Many policemen get trialed in Turkey for the maltreatment of detainees or for other kinds of power abuse.

I am very close to a lawyer who specializes in this sort of cases, also the protection of the homeless kids who the police tries to blame with the unsolved crimes at hand.

What makes you think they don't Nikitas? Turkish officers get investigated too.

What i don't understand is how both Greece and RoC, while being in the EU, still get away with so many of these power abuse cases, yet they have the audacity to constantly blame Turkey for such things.

Sickening hypocrisy i tell you.
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Postby Nikitas » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:19 pm

There are cases like these in every country in the EU, even ones that have excellent human rights record, like Sweden and Denmark.

The test for democracy is not whether you have incidents of police misconduct, but how you deal with them. Cyprus is one of the few countries which has set up an independent authority to investigate the police. Greece follows the British system where an internal section of the police investigates complaints. On the other hand, every police use of firearms in Greece is automatically treated as a potential crime, thus putting the burden of proof on the officer to prove that his conduct was lawful, an approach that has made officers reluctant to use force even when necessary.
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Postby alexISS » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:27 pm

shahmaran wrote:What i don't understand is how both Greece and RoC, while being in the EU, still get away with so many of these power abuse cases


You don't understand it because it's not true, so simple! Don't you think the EU knows better than you if Greece and Cyprus have a police brutality problem? Trust me, they do know better. A handful of events are not enough to bring Greece or Cyprus to the levels of Turkey, Iran or Iraq! Countries like Germany and the UK are in a worse condition than Cyprus
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:38 pm

alexISS wrote:
shahmaran wrote:What i don't understand is how both Greece and RoC, while being in the EU, still get away with so many of these power abuse cases


You don't understand it because it's not true, so simple! Don't you think the EU knows better than you if Greece and Cyprus have a police brutality problem? Trust me, they do know better. A handful of events are not enough to bring Greece or Cyprus to the levels of Turkey, Iran or Iraq! Countries like Germany and the UK are in a worse condition than Cyprus



alexISS,

EU must be concerned for some reason if they feel necessary to caution the RoC. No smoke where there is no fire.
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Postby alexISS » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:44 pm

denizaksulu wrote:alexISS,

EU must be concerned for some reason if they feel necessary to caution the RoC. No smoke where there is no fire.


The RoC is not the first country the EU cautioned Deniz, that's all I'm saying. Of course there is an issue in both Cyprus and Greece, but it's within acceptable EU limits
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:53 pm

alexISS wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:alexISS,

EU must be concerned for some reason if they feel necessary to caution the RoC. No smoke where there is no fire.


The RoC is not the first country the EU cautioned Deniz, that's all I'm saying. Of course there is an issue in both Cyprus and Greece, but it's within acceptable EU limits


OK, we understand each other. Till I read your last sentence.

So now its @egal' abuse/torture. Why? One of the privileges of being in the EU.

Turkey better hurry up with its entry so it can torture PKK murderers 'legally'.
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