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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby brother » Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:19 pm

YEP add me to that list as well, if there is people out there paying for cypriots to just have a different opinion etc and it is top dollar please PM and i will get in contact straight away, and please understand that not that i do not trust you but it is cash up front thank you very much. :D
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:22 pm

Count me in guys :lol:
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Postby garbitsch » Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:23 pm

Why should people having different views in the "free world" be paid off by foreign powers??
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Postby cannedmoose » Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:46 pm

They shouldn't, but if there's greenback flying around for propaganda, expect to see me toeing the US line in my future posts Image
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Postby brother » Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:48 pm

Yep me too and as a good will gesture to kick things off...AMERICA WE ALL LOVE AMERICA...LALALALA..... :lol:.......is Mr.Greenback coming soon 8)
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Postby cannedmoose » Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:52 pm

Sing along folks...

http://content.clearchannel.com/newsaud ... anthem.wma

Don't forget to put your hand over your heart in an annoying bombastic way...
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Postby ultrastar » Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:07 pm

brother wrote:VP ease up with the reverse phycology


Hehe my thought exactly.

Viewpoint, let me say again. One more time. And I'll keep saying it if I have to. This time in very plain words, no long discussions or anything. The rest is up to you really:

Papadopoullos, and those who share the same opinion as him, DO NOT want division, but DO NOT want "a solution for the sake of a solution" either. If you get the point. Papadopoullos wants a REAL solution, good for both sides. No, I mean, he really does.
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Postby garbitsch » Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:12 pm

ultrastar, Tpap is a person who said " not a singe Turkish Cypriot was murdered by Greeks between '63 and '74", how can we believe that he wants a solution for the benefit of both sides?
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Postby ultrastar » Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:19 pm

Well I'm sorry if I missed that bit, but when exactly did he say that, and to who...?

Anyway we are all entitled to our opinion. The thing is that "TPap" himself expressed his views that the best way to solve the problem realistically is a solution involving two federal states. And I can't blame him for rejecting Annan plan for whatever reason. And it remains to be seen if he's fair or not, to both sides, by observing what points in this sh*t plan he wants changed. I personally feel an awful lot need to be changed, but that's out of scope here.
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Postby garbitsch » Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:24 pm

Just a little part of the Tpap interview with an Arab journalist. This was written by a Greek Cypriot:

Does the President suffer memory loss?


Opinion


By Loucas G Charalambous

The interviews given by President Papadopoulos have developed into a unique form of self-flagellation, to such a degree that we should be asking what is actually happening. His responses in the interview to the publisher of the United Arab Emirates-based English language newspaper Khaleej Times, Mohammed Galadari, were bizarre and raised several questions.


Here is an excerpt:



Galadari: Turkish Cypriots said that after independence and before the Turkish troops came, within 11 years, lots of massacres occurred. When the Turkish troops came, they saved them from further violence, and if they hadn't come, all of them might have been killed?

Papadopoulos: They say that and claim that the Turkish troops protected them.

Galadari: The Turkish Cypriots say that Mr Papadopoulos is a hardliner.

Papadopoulos: From the beginning, they were planning for a separation. But, in fact, the Turkish Cypriots were the ones who committed massacres and in 1963 we asked to increase the police patrols, but they refused. From 1963 to 1974, how many Turkish Cypriots were killed? The answer is none.
We should resist the temptation to laugh at this response by the President. The situation might be more serious than what it seems and it would be wrong to laugh at it. I did not have time to read my archives so as to give you a relatively accurate number of Turkish Cypriots (or of Greek Cypriots) who were killed between 1963 and 1974. I will just remind you that during this period, there were bloody clashes in Masoura-Tylliria, in Lefka-Ambelikou, in Trypimeni, in Arsos, in Mari and in Kophinou-Ayios Theodoros.


You can read the whole stuff at: http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm200405/cmselect/cmfaff/113/113we23.htm

Sometimes just one word can destroy everything. And Tpap's "none" word had ended any hopes for him in the hearts of Turkish Cypriots.
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