Jimmy wrote:Kifeas, man,
what I got from Bananiot's post was that he expressed the hope that we will resist partition, with a reference to 'velvet partition', explicitly referred to as 'like the one in the TC community in 2003'. Is this the part that got you so upset? Those demonstrations, as far as I know, were peaceful and expressed the popular will. Nothing, then, to do with what you describe.
Jimmy,
He spoke about velvet revolution and not velvet partition.
Velvet revolution means many things. Perhaps except the use of force like in the case of EOKA B. Mind you they also used the word “revolution,” in order to commit their C.i.A. funded crime. Anyway, I consider it an
hybris (insult) to equate the Denktashist and Turkish deep state –military dominated “TRNC” in which the TCs are almost outnumbered by the settlers and are pray to the Turkish domination and control, with the democratic climate and culture of the free areas. In the south we do not have settlers to keep any Denktash in power through bribes and land distribution, we do not murder journalist and bomb opposition newspapers, we do not have 40,000 Turkish army to control our police and dictate the terms of the political game, we do not have a prime minister that reports to the Turkish generals, etc, etc, etc. How can one equate the two and speak about a revolution by getting out in the streets like the TCs did in year 2003. Is it how the RoCy functions? Like “TRNC”?
Why so far no GCs went into the streets to protest against Papadopoullos, after the referendum. You know how many will show if someone attempts to organise such a demonstration? Only a few bananiots.
jimmy wrote:And here we go again with the paid traitors... Come on, man, throw me a bone here!
What do you know that I don't?
I do not say that all those that supported the A-plan are paid traitors. There are a number of reasons as to why people voted in favour. Some (the minority) genuinely believed that it was a fair deal. Some of them got frighten (the majority) by the threads of Solana and Powel and Verhaughen and all the rest of the boys, that it will be our end if we say No, some of them because they had immediate economic interests like the people of Derynia whose very valuable property (90% of it,) was on the coast line within the buffer zone and they would get it back immediately. And Yes, some of them, including the entire YES campaign, were funded by UNOPS, which as we know gets all her money from the American C.I.A. This is not a secret.
jimmy wrote:Who gets paid by the CIA?
Ask bananiot and he will tell you who gets the UNOPS funds.
jimmy wrote:What has made them such traitors, and why didn't 'it' (whatever it is that got to them) get to you?
Some people are so naively flattered when approached by the Americans that all of suddenly they believe they have invented the wheel. Wrong judgement, anxiety, Americanophilia, submissive nature, conditioning can be some of the reasons. Again not all of them were paid. Some of them have been influenced by leaders that they considered an authenticity in politics and the Cyprus problem, like Clerides, Vasilliou, Anastasiades, etc, etc.
jimmy wrote:Do you consider yourself as being superior to 'them'?
No I do not, because I also had my doubts and I went between Yes and No a few times. However, the majority has decided. And the result was No. And this is a fact that we have to pick up from there and move further and face whatever consequences, united, with no depression, no aversion and with the highest possible moral. The Anglo-Americans conspire every day and every night on how to capitalise on our rejection of the plan and set traps against us, showing complete disrespect for our democratic decision. They nearly attempted to pass a resolution in the UN security council in order to cancel the previous resolutions and recognise the TRNC. We cannot forget this. People like Bananiot attempt to spread lies, rumours and demoralising comments and these are just unacceptable.
jimmy wrote:Why is it that you can't accept the possibility that some of us don't agree with you and honestly didn't consider the A-Plan a divisive scheme by Lord Hannay, without having been paid by anyone?
I accept your right to have a different opinion on the nature of the plan. I also accept your right to express this opinion. What I cannot accept is disrespect for the will of the majority like bananiot does all the time and an attempt to downgrade and belittle the president for his choices, with lies and rumours, and also to speak about “velvet revolutions” as if we are some kind of a third world country that has no democratic procedures. However, this will never happen here because the people know that behind these movements are the Americans, who think they will be able to replicate what they did in the north with the TCs.
