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[zan]

What about this...??? We agree to part our way with the Turkish occupation,and the GCs agree to part their way with the occupation of our share of the Cyprus Republic..We kiss and make up,and begin the noble work of building one nation of Cypriots....Oh,and we agree to part our way with most of the settlers,and some of the GCs agree to part with their right of return...Agreed partition where only the Cypriots win,I say...

Too many pitfalls in your version of partition, why not make a clean break and not risk the problems or the TCs being reduced to minority status in a Gc state run by GCs. Lets allow everyone the opportunity to choose which state they wish to reside in and allow each state to go it alone, why not whats so bad about having the option? they can choose whether they wish to be a minority or a majority.

Because in your version of partition our ethnicity will be cemented in concrete,and we will never have the opportunity to become one nation of Cypriots above all else...This will ensure that the wounds of Cypriots will never heal,VP..Our bloody past will be revisited at the earliest opportunity...Time to be brave and make some sacrifices for the overall good of our motherland,and the future generation of Cypriots...

We being the sacrificed lambs yet again......No ta!!!

[zan]

UBP LEADER SAYS CHRISTOFIAS’S STATEMENTS `PROVOCATIVE AND UNREALISTIC’
The leader of the main opposition National Unity Party Tahsin Ertugruloglu has described the Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias’s latest statements on the Cyprus Problem as ‘provocative and unrealistic’.

In a written statement issued today, the UBP Chief accused the Greek Cypriot leader of trying to poison relations between the Turkish Cypriot people and Turkey as well as to impose Greek sovereignty on the island.

The UBP leader also claimed that the policy pursued by President Mehmet Ali Talat to counter the Greek Cypriot leader’s efforts was inadequate.

Pointing out that the Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias desired the reunification of the island under a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation; Ertugruloglu said that a new state will not to be created on the island.

He argued that attempts were being made to assimilate the Turkish Cypriot into the so-called Cyprus Republic as a minority through a planned set of constitutional amendments to be introduced.

Ertugruloglu also said that the Turkish Cypriot people should defend and maintain their sovereign state as well as Turkey’s effective guarantee.

This is why I didn't get too excited about all of this and knew it was a PR exercise only...

[humanist]

sorry Zan, from memory I thought your brother inlaw is Turkish and I was having a bit of a dig. I do apologise if that offended you

[zan]

sorry Zan, from memory I thought your brother inlaw is Turkish and I was having a bit of a dig. I do apologise if that offended you

Only in that it was wrong....

[Kikapu]

UBP LEADER SAYS CHRISTOFIAS’S STATEMENTS `PROVOCATIVE AND UNREALISTIC’
The leader of the main opposition National Unity Party Tahsin Ertugruloglu has described the Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias’s latest statements on the Cyprus Problem as ‘provocative and unrealistic’.

In a written statement issued today, the UBP Chief accused the Greek Cypriot leader of trying to poison relations between the Turkish Cypriot people and Turkey as well as to impose Greek sovereignty on the island.

The UBP leader also claimed that the policy pursued by President Mehmet Ali Talat to counter the Greek Cypriot leader’s efforts was inadequate.

Pointing out that the Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias desired the reunification of the island under a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation; Ertugruloglu said that a new state will not to be created on the island.

He argued that attempts were being made to assimilate the Turkish Cypriot into the so-called Cyprus Republic as a minority through a planned set of constitutional amendments to be introduced.

Ertugruloglu also said that the Turkish Cypriot people should defend and maintain their sovereign state as well as Turkey’s effective guarantee.

Don't say I did not warn all you people who insist on putting the 2004 Annan Plan on the table as a starting point for the "TRNC" in the new peace talks. Christofias is not going to fall for that one and have another referendum, so that the GC's will once again turn it down, so that the TC's can claim moral victory by saying "yes" again to get the embargoes lifted. What the "TRNC" is not hearing is, that the Annan Plan is DEAD & BURIED and if real negotiations are to be taking place, then it's going to be around True Federation & True Democracy and not the 2004 AP version, which is a Confederation with a "virgin birth" concept as an added touch. As long as the "TRNC" insists on the RIP 2004 AP, then Christofias is going to put Turkish Occupation and Guarantorship on the table as the main obstacle to peace, and you will find many around the world will see it the same way.

It does not take a genius to figure that one out.

[Nikitas]

This minority-majority thing is convenient as an excuse. Those that use it forget realities like taxation, where the majority is taxed, as it should be on the basis from each according to his income, to finance projects for the whole, and for the financially weaker, as it should be, again on the basis to each according to his needs. That is how modern states work. Here we are told that the system should not only disregard numbers in population but also taxation burden and contribution to the budget of the state, and all because the TCs are not willing to accept minority status or "be ruled" by GCs.

These phrases "ruled" and "power" have no place in a democracy. There are ways to safegurad the rights of all sections and all communities, whether in the majority or minority, without having foreign armies pemanentely stationed on the island.

[BirKibrisli]

Presidential Spokesman Hasan Ercakica has critisized the Greek Cypriot Administration for trying to hold Turkey responsible for the non-solution of the Cyprus problem, at a time when efforts are underway to find a settlement.
The Presidential Spokesman said that the Greek Cypriot Side must prove along the changes it has made in its political leadership that it has changed its policies on the Cyprus Problem.

Speaking to reporters during his routine weekly press briefing, Ercakica pointed out that that the Greek Cypriot Foreign Minister Markos Kiprianu had made it clear he was determined to pursue a case filed against the European Commission with the aim of preventing the Financial Assistance Regulation from being implemented.

He said the move was a clear indication that the Greek Cypriot Side had no intention of changing its policies on the Cyprus Issue.

Touching upon the working groups and technical committees, Ercakica said that it was not determined as to who will be attending the meetings.

Ercakica however added that committee representatives from both sides will be getting together in the Buffer zone on the weekend for an acquaintance and introduction meeting.

Yeah ,sure halil...they can eat, drink,be merry,and agree that nothing can be done,because no one wants to give an inch....well,done...

[BirKibrisli]

What about this...??? We agree to part our way with the Turkish occupation,and the GCs agree to part their way with the occupation of our share of the Cyprus Republic..We kiss and make up,and begin the noble work of building one nation of Cypriots....Oh,and we agree to part our way with most of the settlers,and some of the GCs agree to part with their right of return...Agreed partition where only the Cypriots win,I say...

Think about asking the GCs getting rid of at least 100,000 of their immigrants as well and we will think about it!!!

When we return to the Cyprus Republic (to use your preferred term ) their immigrants will be,our immigrants too. And out settlers would be their settlers...I am sure we can find a formula which is in the best interest of Cyprus and her people...

I thought you wanted to get rid of ours.....Make up your mind!!

Ours have to go in any case,for our sake...
But we can decide who is going and who is staying with our GC compatriots...It is called compromise ...

[BirKibrisli]

What about this...??? We agree to part our way with the Turkish occupation,and the GCs agree to part their way with the occupation of our share of the Cyprus Republic..We kiss and make up,and begin the noble work of building one nation of Cypriots....Oh,and we agree to part our way with most of the settlers,and some of the GCs agree to part with their right of return...Agreed partition where only the Cypriots win,I say...

Too many pitfalls in your version of partition, why not make a clean break and not risk the problems or the TCs being reduced to minority status in a Gc state run by GCs. Lets allow everyone the opportunity to choose which state they wish to reside in and allow each state to go it alone, why not whats so bad about having the option? they can choose whether they wish to be a minority or a majority.

Because in your version of partition our ethnicity will be cemented in concrete,and we will never have the opportunity to become one nation of Cypriots above all else...This will ensure that the wounds of Cypriots will never heal,VP..Our bloody past will be revisited at the earliest opportunity...Time to be brave and make some sacrifices for the overall good of our motherland,and the future generation of Cypriots...

We being the sacrificed lambs yet again......No ta!!!

Zan,mate...the events which were traumatic for all of us happened more than 40 years ago...Isn't it time to let go of the fear????

[halil]

The UN Chief of Political Affairs Lynn Pascoe has said that Turkey is strongly supporting efforts to find a solution to the Cyprus Problem


Pascoe was speaking to reporters after presenting a report to the UN Security Council regarding the latest developments on the Cyprus Problem.
Speaking to the reporters, the UN Undersecretary General for Political Affairs reaffirmed his optimism for a settlement in Cyprus, noting that he presented the UN Security Council a positive and optimistic report.

He said that Turkey was strictly committed to finding a political settlement on the island.
Responding to a question as to whether the UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon was considering appointing a special Cyprus Representative as he did in the past, Pascoe said that this could be possible in the second phase of the process after the working groups completed their work.

Replying to another question, the UN Chief of political affairs said that the whole world would be pleased to see progress achieved in the Cyprus negotiations process.