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Greek style "democracy"

Postby Eric dayi » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:29 pm

Greece has enacted a number of discriminatory measures to force ethnic Turks to migrate to Turkey or to disrupt community life and weaken its cultural basis. The most egregious example was Article 19 of the Citizenship Law, which, until it was abolished in 1998, allowed the state to strip approximately 60,000 non-ethnic Greeks of their citizenship between 1955 and 1998. Human Rights Watch welcomed abolition of the law last year, but noted that it did not apply retroactively, so tens of thousands of ethnic Turks remain wrongfully deprived of their Greek citizenship.

A 1990 law granted the state wide-ranging powers in appointing the mufti, the Turkish community's religious leader who also serves as an Islamic judge in civil matters. In defiance of the law, the Turkish community has continued to elect its religious leaders, [color=red]who have been prosecuted and imprisoned by Greek authorities. In addition, the repair of mosques is sometimes blocked by state authorities, and those involved in the repair are prosecuted. [/color]

Human rights violations in the education field affect the largest number of individuals and have done the most to foster economic underdevelopment among the Turkish minority. Turkish children attend schools that are overcrowded and poorly funded compared to those attended by ethnic Greeks. And the two Turkish-language high schools in Western Thrace can provide only a fraction of the needed places, resulting in a disproportionate drop-out rate.

In addition, Human Rights Watch has received credible complaints from members of the ethnic Turkish minority, alleging police surveillance, discrimination in public employment, and restrictions on freedom of expression.


And just to make sure the truth is prevented from being told:


Representatives of Human Rights Watch and the Greek Helsinki Monitor were trailed by police operatives in Thrace while conducting research for the report.


Greek democracy? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:45 pm

I can’t for the life of me understand why there’s STILL a small minority of Turks living in Greece or the small minority of Greeks living in Turkey! I hardly think that a handful of people, who are obviously in the wrong place, should be allowed to be the reason for so much trouble between the two countries.

A citizen exchange program should be established between the two countries that properly exchanges and relocates citizens under the guidance of the UN.

I see no reason why millions from both countries should be put through so much trouble for the sake of a handful of fools who refuse to allow common sense to prevail!
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Postby zan » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:50 pm

Get Real! wrote:I can’t for the life of me understand why there’s STILL a small minority of Turks living in Greece or the small minority of Greeks living in Turkey! I hardly think that a handful of people, who are obviously in the wrong place, should be allowed to be the reason for so much trouble between the two countries.

A citizen exchange program should be established between the two countries that properly exchanges and relocates citizens under the guidance of the UN.

I see no reason why millions from both countries should be put through so much trouble for the sake of a handful of fools who refuse to allow common sense to prevail!


Where does that sort of democracy appear in the annals of democracy then GR??? :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Eric dayi » Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:23 pm

zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I can’t for the life of me understand why there’s STILL a small minority of Turks living in Greece or the small minority of Greeks living in Turkey! I hardly think that a handful of people, who are obviously in the wrong place, should be allowed to be the reason for so much trouble between the two countries.

A citizen exchange program should be established between the two countries that properly exchanges and relocates citizens under the guidance of the UN.

I see no reason why millions from both countries should be put through so much trouble for the sake of a handful of fools who refuse to allow common sense to prevail!


Where does that sort of democracy appear in the annals of democracy then GR??? :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:


In the annals of Greek Style Democracy?
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Postby Eric dayi » Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:29 pm

Get Real! wrote:I can’t for the life of me understand why there’s STILL a small minority of Turks living in Greece or the small minority of Greeks living in Turkey! I hardly think that a handful of people, who are obviously in the wrong place, should be allowed to be the reason for so much trouble between the two countries.

A citizen exchange program should be established between the two countries that properly exchanges and relocates citizens under the guidance of the UN.

I see no reason why millions from both countries should be put through so much trouble for the sake of a handful of fools who refuse to allow common sense to prevail!



Thank God for the partition and the border in Cyprus than GR.

Or is it thanks to the Greeks and GCs for inviting Turkey to oversee the exchanges and relocation of the TCs to the TRNC and the GCs to the so-called "RoC"?

Personally I thank the Greeks and the GCs. :wink: :wink: :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby alexISS » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:59 pm

Well done, a HWR article from 9 years ago! It must be a good sign for Greece that Turks have to dig deeper and deeper to find some mud to throw. And it keeps you fit, so everybody wins! By the way, did you take a look at the current HWR pages on both Greece and Turkey? How wise of you to eliminate the Greek minority in Turkey, your human rights violation list would be twice as long now!
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Postby halil » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:05 pm

I wonder what we get from Democracy in Greece or Turkey ......

Nothing ......


Our problem is only Cyprus problem .......

how we can build up the bridges between TC's and GC's ..... İt is easy to hijaking the Cyprus problem ... just waisting our times on someting else which is none of our business at all .
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:17 pm

halil wrote:I wonder what we get from Democracy in Greece or Turkey ......

Nothing ......

Our problem is only Cyprus problem .......

how we can build up the bridges between TC's and GC's ..... İt is easy to hijaking the Cyprus problem ... just waisting our times on someting else which is none of our business at all .

I agree, Eric and Alexis should take their Greece Vs Turkey's undesirables to the general politics section where it belongs and fight it out...
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:21 pm

halil wrote:I wonder what we get from Democracy in Greece or Turkey ......

Nothing ......


Our problem is only Cyprus problem .......

how we can build up the bridges between TC's and GC's ..... İt is easy to hijaking the Cyprus problem ... just waisting our times on someting else which is none of our business at all .


The Cyprus problem is one of occupoation by Turkey. Whether you like it or not, a solution is totally dependant on Turkey and the Cypriots just about have no say. So, Turkey is the subject.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:24 pm

Paphitis wrote:
halil wrote:I wonder what we get from Democracy in Greece or Turkey ......

Nothing ......


Our problem is only Cyprus problem .......

how we can build up the bridges between TC's and GC's ..... İt is easy to hijaking the Cyprus problem ... just waisting our times on someting else which is none of our business at all .


The Cyprus problem is one of occupoation by Turkey. Whether you like it or not, a solution is totally dependant on Turkey and the Cypriots just about have no say. So, Turkey is the subject.

Greece and Turkey's minorities are not relevant to Cyprus and it's only used here to "prove" that one country is better than the other! :roll:
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