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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:30 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
halil wrote:I wonder what we get from Democracy in Greece or Turkey ......

Nothing ......


Our problem is only Cyprus problem .......

how we can build up the bridges between TC's and GC's ..... İt is easy to hijaking the Cyprus problem ... just waisting our times on someting else which is none of our business at all .


The Cyprus problem is one of occupoation by Turkey. Whether you like it or not, a solution is totally dependant on Turkey and the Cypriots just about have no say. So, Turkey is the subject.

Greece and Turkey's minorities are not relevant to Cyprus and it's only used here to "prove" that one country is better than the other! :roll:


You must be kidding. According to the big shit stirers, the whole Cyprus problem is caused by the so called Greek Genocide of TCs. Obvously to further their cause of permanent partition. :roll:

I hope that this is not another attempt of censorship.
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Postby alexISS » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:36 pm

Get Real! wrote:
halil wrote:I wonder what we get from Democracy in Greece or Turkey ......

Nothing ......

Our problem is only Cyprus problem .......

how we can build up the bridges between TC's and GC's ..... İt is easy to hijaking the Cyprus problem ... just waisting our times on someting else which is none of our business at all .

I agree, Eric and Alexis should take their Greece Vs Turkey's undesirables to the general politics section where it belongs and fight it out...


I didn't start the thread, genius! :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:04 pm

Get Real! wrote:
halil wrote:I wonder what we get from Democracy in Greece or Turkey ......

Nothing ......

Our problem is only Cyprus problem .......

how we can build up the bridges between TC's and GC's ..... İt is easy to hijaking the Cyprus problem ... just waisting our times on someting else which is none of our business at all .

I agree, Eric and Alexis should take their Greece Vs Turkey's undesirables to the general politics section where it belongs and fight it out...


GR, these threads are not Greece Vs Turkey. They are Turkey Vs Cyprus. These shit stirers (Eric and Zan) just enjoy rubbing salt in our wounds and are hell bent on spreading mis-information about the barbarian Greeks and barbarian GCs. There favourite catch cry is the so called Greek Genocide of TCs. All to promote Taksim!

Do you not agree that these backward hypocrites need to be countered?
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:19 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
halil wrote:I wonder what we get from Democracy in Greece or Turkey ......

Nothing ......

Our problem is only Cyprus problem .......

how we can build up the bridges between TC's and GC's ..... İt is easy to hijaking the Cyprus problem ... just waisting our times on someting else which is none of our business at all .

I agree, Eric and Alexis should take their Greece Vs Turkey's undesirables to the general politics section where it belongs and fight it out...

GR, these threads are not Greece Vs Turkey. They are Turkey Vs Cyprus. These shit stirers (Eric and Zan) just enjoy rubbing salt in our wounds and are hell bent on spreading mis-information about the barbarian Greeks and barbarian GCs. There favourite catch cry is the so called Greek Genocide of TCs. All to promote Taksim!

Do you not agree that these backward hypocrites need to be countered?

As far as I'm concerned both Greeks and Turks are barbarians! :)

Only Cypriots are civilized and should one day claim both territories of Greece and Turkey! :D

One thing I'll no longer do is fight Greece's battles so no more freebies Alexis…
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:40 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
halil wrote:I wonder what we get from Democracy in Greece or Turkey ......

Nothing ......

Our problem is only Cyprus problem .......

how we can build up the bridges between TC's and GC's ..... İt is easy to hijaking the Cyprus problem ... just waisting our times on someting else which is none of our business at all .

I agree, Eric and Alexis should take their Greece Vs Turkey's undesirables to the general politics section where it belongs and fight it out...

GR, these threads are not Greece Vs Turkey. They are Turkey Vs Cyprus. These shit stirers (Eric and Zan) just enjoy rubbing salt in our wounds and are hell bent on spreading mis-information about the barbarian Greeks and barbarian GCs. There favourite catch cry is the so called Greek Genocide of TCs. All to promote Taksim!

Do you not agree that these backward hypocrites need to be countered?

As far as I'm concerned both Greeks and Turks are barbarians! :)

Only Cypriots are civilized and should one day claim both territories of Greece and Turkey! :D

One thing I'll no longer do is fight Greece's battles so no more freebies Alexis…


Forgive me if I am wrong. The RoC is an independant and sovereign nation recognised by the whole world except Turkey. Greece has no or very little influence in The RoC. There is a Joint Defence Doctrine but what else do you expect when there are 40,000 occupation troops on Cyprus. Greece has a mere 1,000 ELDYK troops. The "trnc" is basically a Turkish province.

So from whom must the Cypriots claim their territories?

Do not tell me that you are one of those Cypriots that finds it fashionable to citicise Greece for no apparent reason. You may say that they are the ones that attempted a coup against Makarios in 1974. I will tell you that it is the Cypriots that are to blame for the coup. Why, because some Cypriots wanted it and asked Greece for it. Greece just acted on it's self interest under the circumstances.
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Postby alexISS » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:40 pm

Get Real! wrote:As far as I'm concerned both Greeks and Turks are barbarians! :)

Only Cypriots are civilized and should one day claim both territories of Greece and Turkey! :D

One thing I'll no longer do is fight Greece's battles so no more freebies Alexis…


GetReal, I've asked you this before but you didn't reply (or you did and I missed it):
How do you manage to reconcile your love and support for Tassos Papadopoulos with your anti-Greek sentiment? Papadopoulos has repeatedly declared himself the defender of Cypriot Hellenism and he has certainly asked Greece to help fight Cyprus's battles (even though you personally refuse to do the same :wink: )
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Postby alexISS » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:49 pm

Regarding the Imia incident you brought up in the other thread, how did you come to the conclusion that Greece "lost" anything? The island is as Greek as it ever was, the criticism towards the Greek government of that time focuses on them accepting the mediation of the United States, not on "losing" in a confict with Turkey.

Here's an extract from Bill Clinton's autobiography regarding the incident:

"I spoke to President Suleyman Demirel and Prime Minister Tansu Ciller of Turkey. They told me that Turkey and Greece were on the brink of military confrontation and implored me to intervene to stop it."
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:04 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
halil wrote:I wonder what we get from Democracy in Greece or Turkey ......

Nothing ......

Our problem is only Cyprus problem .......

how we can build up the bridges between TC's and GC's ..... İt is easy to hijaking the Cyprus problem ... just waisting our times on someting else which is none of our business at all .

I agree, Eric and Alexis should take their Greece Vs Turkey's undesirables to the general politics section where it belongs and fight it out...

GR, these threads are not Greece Vs Turkey. They are Turkey Vs Cyprus. These shit stirers (Eric and Zan) just enjoy rubbing salt in our wounds and are hell bent on spreading mis-information about the barbarian Greeks and barbarian GCs. There favourite catch cry is the so called Greek Genocide of TCs. All to promote Taksim!

Do you not agree that these backward hypocrites need to be countered?

As far as I'm concerned both Greeks and Turks are barbarians! :)

Only Cypriots are civilized and should one day claim both territories of Greece and Turkey! :D

One thing I'll no longer do is fight Greece's battles so no more freebies Alexis…


Forgive me if I am wrong. The RoC is an independant and sovereign nation recognised by the whole world except Turkey. Greece has no or very little influence in The RoC. There is a Joint Defence Doctrine but what else do you expect when there are 40,000 occupation troops on Cyprus. Greece has a mere 1,000 ELDYK troops. The "trnc" is basically a Turkish province.

So from whom must the Cypriots claim their territories?

Do not tell that you are one of those Cypriots that finds it fashionable to citicise Greece for no apparent reason. You may say that they are the ones that attempted a coup against Makarios in 1974. I will tell you that it is the Cypriots that are to blame for the coup. Why, because some Cypriots wanted it and asked Greece for it. Greece just acted on it's self interest under the circumstances.

Why don’t you ask our Greek friend Alexis, and don’t judge him by his relatively small message count because he’s actually a forum veteran (just quieter for a good reason), and knows EXACTLY what my gripe is with Greece…
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:06 pm

The report on Thrace is total crap. The Turkish community in Thrace have in fact increased in numbers and now stand at about 150 000, as opposed to the Greeks of Istanbul who went from 100 000 to less than 2000 today.

There are several members of parliament elected by the Turkish community of Thrace, how many Greeks of Istanbul hold public office in Turkey?

How many Greeks are left on Imvros and Tenedos, two totally Greek islands controlled by Turkey? Less than 200 are left.

Eric has dug out an old and outdated report to create his usual impressions.
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Postby alexISS » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:52 am

Not only that, the Turks of Thrace are actually richer and more free than the Turks of Turkey, so who really needs to defend whom?


GetReal, any comments on the previous two posts of mine?
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