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[boomerang]

Anything to demonise Turkey and make it look incompetent always makes the Greeks and GCs feel as if they won a major war against Turkey and that Turkey will collapse and cease to exist.

Ah well, if it makes them feel good let them dream.

Come over here sweetheart your turkey slap is waiting for you...stop begging...I know you want it...

[Big Al]

Gentlemen,
How does Turkey's tax collection activities affect Cyprus, does anyone on this forum believe that by highlighting Turkey's ability/inablility to collect tax that this will somehow translate to a win for GC's or thr RoC?
Turkey economy is an emerging economy, one which hasnt yet reached it potential yet. It will contiue to grow and Turkey will continue to invest heavily in its armed forces, and its resources, i cant see how this translate into a victory for the RoC??

The relevance of this discussion is the economics of "turkey=fascist state" and how this subject will come up sooner than later within the scope of her EU aspirations...

Now I find it strange that as the population increases the tax revenue falls...

Big Al, if creative accounting is dodgy, it must be exposed, coz its the population that suffers one way or another...I am not saying I am on a crusade here but coming from OZ, where we have the fair go mentality I can't sit back and not question it...I am sure you can appreciate this...

It has nothing wanting bad for turkey or her populaton...If anything what I am suggesting.discussing is a plus...

We want a prosperous turkey for the simple fact it will draw us closer together in the long run...

Contrary to what dickhead Eric I want a turkey slap says...

Boomers,
Perhaps a forum set up for Turkey and about Turkey would be a more effective way of expressing your views on this subject. It is highly unlikely you will find enough people that have enough knowledge on the topic to have a fruitful discussion. also, i think there are more pressing issues which could be resolved here first, Turkey's tax system is really a minor thing in the grand scheme. Correct me if im wrong but dont you agree. If a resolution of the Cyprus problem is your primary objective perhaps channeling your energy into changing the way people such as Oracle treats her TC compatriots would be better???

[Big Al]

Anything to demonise Turkey and make it look incompetent always makes the Greeks and GCs feel as if they won a major war against Turkey and that Turkey will collapse and cease to exist.

Ah well, if it makes them feel good let them dream.

Come over here sweetheart your turkey slap is waiting for you...stop begging...I know you want it...

A 3'' turkey slap, this i have to see!!!!

[boomerang]

Anything to demonise Turkey and make it look incompetent always makes the Greeks and GCs feel as if they won a major war against Turkey and that Turkey will collapse and cease to exist.

Ah well, if it makes them feel good let them dream.

Come over here sweetheart your turkey slap is waiting for you...stop begging...I know you want it...

A 3'' turkey slap, this i have to see!!!!

I meant me not you

[boomerang]

Gentlemen,
How does Turkey's tax collection activities affect Cyprus, does anyone on this forum believe that by highlighting Turkey's ability/inablility to collect tax that this will somehow translate to a win for GC's or thr RoC?
Turkey economy is an emerging economy, one which hasnt yet reached it potential yet. It will contiue to grow and Turkey will continue to invest heavily in its armed forces, and its resources, i cant see how this translate into a victory for the RoC??

The relevance of this discussion is the economics of "turkey=fascist state" and how this subject will come up sooner than later within the scope of her EU aspirations...

Now I find it strange that as the population increases the tax revenue falls...

Big Al, if creative accounting is dodgy, it must be exposed, coz its the population that suffers one way or another...I am not saying I am on a crusade here but coming from OZ, where we have the fair go mentality I can't sit back and not question it...I am sure you can appreciate this...

It has nothing wanting bad for turkey or her populaton...If anything what I am suggesting.discussing is a plus...

We want a prosperous turkey for the simple fact it will draw us closer together in the long run...

Contrary to what dickhead Eric I want a turkey slap says...

Boomers,
Perhaps a forum set up for Turkey and about Turkey would be a more effective way of expressing your views on this subject. It is highly unlikely you will find enough people that have enough knowledge on the topic to have a fruitful discussion. also, i think there are more pressing issues which could be resolved here first, Turkey's tax system is really a minor thing in the grand scheme. Correct me if im wrong but dont you agree. If a resolution of the Cyprus problem is your primary objective perhaps channeling your energy into changing the way people such as Oracle treats her TC compatriots would be better???

Mate this is Cyprus and we are amongst our own...anything and everything is on the table...have you ever heard of Cypriot not knowing anything and everything? ...don't you know Cyprus is the centre of the universe? ...besides Zan and I go back in time...we can disguss anything and everything...even sending rovers to Mars ...Stick around...

And you talk about pressing issues...newbie

[CopperLine]

Now I find it strange that as the population increases the tax revenue falls...

Maybe you find it strange Boomerang but it is pretty common for actual tax revenues to fall as wealth increases. Indeed if this did not happen tax accountants would be out of a job : basically this is what they're paid to do. Why do the richest people pay less tax than you and I ? How much tax do the leading global companies pay ? The late great American economist JK Galbraith called it the 'fraud stage of capitalism.'

[boomerang]

Now I find it strange that as the population increases the tax revenue falls...

Maybe you find it strange Boomerang but it is pretty common for actual tax revenues to fall as wealth increases. Indeed if this did not happen tax accountants would be out of a job : basically this is what they're paid to do. Why do the richest people pay less tax than you and I ? How much tax do the leading global companies pay ? The late great American economist JK Galbraith called it the 'fraud stage of capitalism.'

Hang on a minute Copperline...let us put some perspective here...In Oz we have about 8 million working people and government gets an amount eqaual to X...Now if the working population increases to 20% the next 5 years the government government revenue will be Y...Now are you saying that the revenue Y should be lower than X?...You kidding me...

I do understand how tax brackets work...and contrary to what you believe, in OZ the tax brackets are as follow...

<$75k per year and under the tax is calculated at 31%
>$75k per year and over the tax is calculated at 41%
Ofcource the next level is calculated at 61% but I am not quite sure of the earnings.

How on earth the government is gonna get less?...

Spare me the creative accounting for business...We are talking in Turkey as the article says the working population and not companies with creative accountants...unless ofcource the working force in turkey are either companies or contract workers, which in both cases are companies...

What the article is reffering to Copperline is that people are getting hard cash and off the books...This is what is saying...Personal Income tax collection which is paid weekly or monthly and not at one time at the end of the financial year...as companies do...Please re read the article...

[zan]

Boomers..The hard facts are that the black markets in any country are a fact of life and although they don't say it it is necessary. It promotes a cheep labour force and production...Again I don't know the figures but this was rife in the UK and am sure that immigrants in Oz are ALLOWED to do the same thing....It leaves companies active that otherwise would not be able to survive but still helps generate income when spending.

[boomerang]

Boomers..The hard facts are that the black markets in any country are a fact of life and although they don't say it it is necessary. It promotes a cheep labour force and production...Again I don't know the figures but this was rife in the UK and am sure that immigrants in Oz are ALLOWED to do the same thing....It leaves companies active that otherwise would not be able to survive but still helps generate income when spending.

That is correct Zan about the black market in every country...But in the scheeme of thinks it fails to register even a blimp...Its miniscule...

And this is whatt he article is saying...the working population increased but the revenue decreased...What they saying it can be interpreted 2 ways

1...Working for cash
2...Salaries went backwards

[Nikitas]

Are you sure abouit those figures? Six million taxpayers in a population of 80 million? Somehow it cannot be right. There must be a source of funds to pay civils servants, army etc, not to mention ambitious public works, that cannot be coming from less than one tenth of the population.