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Soyer: A Potential Solution Is Dependant

Postby boomerang » Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:29 am

Soyer: A Potential Solution Is Dependant Upon The Guarantee And Alliance Treaties

Published: 4/12/2008

Underlying that besides the requisite of equality, Prime Minister Ferdi Sabit Soyer emphasized that a potential solution is also dependant upon the Guarantee and Alliance Treaties and that a solution will be impossible without these necessities.
Drawing attention to how the Greek Cypriots perform politics upon imaginary scenarios of how the Turkish Armed Forces (TAF) are supposedly in conflict to the President, the government and with the Turkish Cypriot people, Soyer stated, “as it did not contribute to the Cyprus problem yesterday, this delusion will serve no purpose today.”

Expressing that the Greek Cypriot leadership should refrain from such delusions, Soyer stated, “If they intend to make peace with Turkey, with the TAF and the Turkish Cypriot people, they must take first priority in realising that our existence is as valuable as their own and I would like to underline that this should be placed within their system of thinking.”

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=225238&s=&i=&t=Soyer:_A_Potential_Solution_Is_Dependant_Upon_The_Guarantee_And_Alliance_Treaties


1...The Roc needs to make peace with 3 entities?
2...see how the tcs rank 3rd down the list for making peace

I would have thought making peace with "turkey=fascist state" as a country would have been enough...but now the TAF comes into the equation as an entity of her own...more proof of the deep state perhaps? :roll:

Sounds to me the script was handed down from Gasbag before he left :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:41 am

It's quite obvious that Soyer wants things to fail knowing that the RoC will never again accept undemocratic interferences like the treaty of guarantee.
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Postby boomerang » Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:46 am

Get Real! wrote:It's quite obvious that Soyer wants things to fail knowing that the RoC will never again accept undemocratic interferences like the treaty of guarantee.



That would have been true if Soyer could string a couple of thoughts on his own in the first place... 8)

Coming out demanding the RoC making peace with TAF proves this isn't the case... 8)
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Postby zan » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:26 am

Tpap calling......... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You guys are getting more and more desperate day by day...I wonder when one of your lot are going to leak the Akritas Plan 2.......... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Soyer: A Potential Solution Is Dependant

Postby Kifeas » Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:28 am

boomerang wrote:
Soyer: A Potential Solution Is Dependant Upon The Guarantee And Alliance Treaties

Published: 4/12/2008

Underlying that besides the requisite of equality, Prime Minister Ferdi Sabit Soyer emphasized that a potential solution is also dependant upon the Guarantee and Alliance Treaties and that a solution will be impossible without these necessities.
Drawing attention to how the Greek Cypriots perform politics upon imaginary scenarios of how the Turkish Armed Forces (TAF) are supposedly in conflict to the President, the government and with the Turkish Cypriot people, Soyer stated, “as it did not contribute to the Cyprus problem yesterday, this delusion will serve no purpose today.”

Expressing that the Greek Cypriot leadership should refrain from such delusions, Soyer stated, “If they intend to make peace with Turkey, with the TAF and the Turkish Cypriot people, they must take first priority in realising that our existence is as valuable as their own and I would like to underline that this should be placed within their system of thinking.”

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=225238&s=&i=&t=Soyer:_A_Potential_Solution_Is_Dependant_Upon_The_Guarantee_And_Alliance_Treaties


1...The Roc needs to make peace with 3 entities?
2...see how the tcs rank 3rd down the list for making peace

I would have thought making peace with "turkey=fascist state" as a country would have been enough...but now the TAF comes into the equation as an entity of her own...more proof of the deep state perhaps? :roll:

Sounds to me the script was handed down from Gasbag before he left :roll:


Yes Mr. Soyer, your existence is as valuable as ours, no doubt and no need to even mention it! It is well within our system of thinking, even without having to tell us so! However, simply because we do not feel and we do not perceive ourselves to constitute a danger to your existence, it is impossible for us to understand and place it in our system of thinking that you should need a so-called guarantor such as Turkey, with a sword hanging over our heads, so that you will accept to live and share with us the same country. If this is how you perceive us, i.e. to constitute a thread to your existence, then logic says you should never enter into any kind of relationship with us. No one in his right senses should want to get married with someone else, if he or she perceives that person to constitute a real thread to his or her existence.

You will of course tell me that it is not so much your desire to get married with us, that makes you considering the act; but rather the fact that you are compelled by the circumstances, and if it would have been possible to attain recognition tomorrow, you wouldn’t feel the need to even look at our direction –set aside say hello to us. Rest sure we know well about this fact! Let me tell you though, that there is a way you get what you want, but first you have to realize that your community, Mr. Soyer, is only the 18% of Cypriots, with about the same percentage of private land ownership! As far as the vast majority of Greek Cypriots is concerned, you can have your separate way, so that you may go and live together with those you trust more and do not perceive to constitute a thread to your existence, once you realize that you cannot have your cake and eat it too; i.e., as soon as you realize that you may have your independence and a separate life from us, only once you "place it in your system of thinking" that this can only be possible should you withdrew only to the proportion of Cyprus that constitutes and represents your fair share!

I can assure you that, because the majority of GCs have already gotten sick and tired of your attitude, mentality and behavior over the years, that once you decide to withdraw to that part of Cyprus representing your fair share, we will accept and concede to you independence as a separate entity! You do not have to get married with someone you perceive as a thread to your existence, so that we will have to be forced to accept a foreigner as a guarantor, to patronize us for the rest of our life as a nation or a country.

I repeat again, you cannot have your cake, and eat it too; or as we say in Cyprus, "to have the dog full (fed) and the bread a whole!"
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Postby Expatkiwi » Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:39 am

The Treaty of Guarantee also involves the United Kingdom and Greece. Therefore, the Greek Cypriot side can always look to Greece to protect their interests, like the Turkish Cypriots rely on Turkey to preserve their interests, so what's the problem? Unless of course you don't want the Turkish Cypriot populace to have their safeguard...
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:46 am

Expatkiwi wrote:The Treaty of Guarantee also involves the United Kingdom and Greece. Therefore, the Greek Cypriot side can always look to Greece to protect their interests, like the Turkish Cypriots rely on Turkey to preserve their interests, so what's the problem? Unless of course you don't want the Turkish Cypriot populace to have their safeguard...


Expatkiwi, if you wish to have a patron and a quardian for your country, then give a call to Turkey, Greece or the UK, maybe one of them will be interested! We feel we are grown ups and mature enough, not to need patrons and guardians! It is an insult to even suggest the opposite to us! It is either this, or the way I have described above ...or the status quo for the next 100 years!
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:48 am

Expatkiwi wrote:The Treaty of Guarantee also involves the United Kingdom and Greece. Therefore, the Greek Cypriot side can always look to Greece to protect their interests, like the Turkish Cypriots rely on Turkey to preserve their interests, so what's the problem? Unless of course you don't want the Turkish Cypriot populace to have their safeguard...


We do not require any Treaties of Guarantee from either the UK, Greece or Turkey. In case you have not noticed, it is those countries that have placed Cyprus in it's present fucked up predicament. The scourge of Greek and Turkish nationalism has destroyed Cyprus, and we are not the only ones to pay a heavy price. The TCs have also paid a heavy price and are now a minority in the "trnc".

We just want a free and independant nation. And in case you have forgotten, RoC is a member of the EU which should be more than adequate safeguards for the rights of citizens.

If TCs insist on guarantees, then the only thing that could be acceptable are guarantees from the EU or UN and not Turkey or Greece who have fucked our tiny country up. The idea of guarantees from UK could also be fairly acceptable.
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Postby boomerang » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:17 am

Why should we have anything to do with a 3rd world country with a 3rd world mentality, that even the people that they so call protect refer to her by saying the majority of her, "turkey=fascist state", population as poor, uneducated, religious and backward idiots? :roll:
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Postby humanist » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:55 am

am going along with kifeas
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