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[zan]

Here are some figures comparing , literacy , infant mortality and life expectancy between Turkey and Cyprus :
LITTERACY RATE INFANT MORTALITY LIFE EXPECTANCY.

TURKEY : 87% 38.3/1000 72.9

CYPRUS : 99% 6.89/1000 80.5

Here you have it , Shah was right in some respects. Turkey is way behind Cyprus in those areas that really can be used as criteria for measuring a nations standing in the world.
The Turks live an average of 7.5 years less than the Cypriots , their baby death rates are 38 per thousand as against 8 for Cyprus !
Turkey needs Europe to help combat these dreadful statistics that are almost as high as as those of the Middle East and North Africa.
We live longer in Cyprus by 7.5 years and we only have an infant mortality rate per 1000 live births of under 7 , bearing in mind that the world average is 55 , that of the UK is 5.01 , the USA 6.37 , Turkeys IMR at 38.3 is considerably higher. The Turkish politicians are no doubt familiar with these statistics and are naturally concerned in improving life in Turkey . EU membership for Turkey is crucial not only for Turkish people but for the Greeks and the Cypriots. Does Turkey have the vision and the will to continue its journey into the 21st century ?

Good post Miltiades,bravo.

It puts things into perspective. But I wouldn't hold my breath for Turkey, I really don't see and real changes any time soon. Sad.

Exactly the same things were said of Greece my lovely...I do love you people who live on sound bites from your own propaganda.......Tabloid brains for tabloid expectations...

You are correct...but here comes the but...The magic word here Zan old boy is were... when do you think "turkey=fascist state" will see the light?...in your own opiniion which century?

If it wasn't for the EU then you would still be living in your own shit Boomers...Turkey is getting there...Just because you did it first with the HELP of the EU doesn't mean you can now get on your high horse and mock others...Except for when it is political and you have a lot to gain from it that is.....But that is called sabotage!!!

[miltiades]

We must look at things in a clear and concise fashion not allowing our judgement to be clouded by preconceived notions and prejudices.Turkey is a vast country with an ever expanding infrastructure , a country that has the capacity to take on the best in Europe as far as manufactured goods are concerned , Turkish refrigeration , glassware manufacture domestic appliances and consumer goods of all type are well received in Europe. The Turkish business man is as acute and efficient as his European counterparts. We need Turkey to continue making strides in the direction of progress for the benefit of the Turkish people and those around them. A Turkey out of Europe WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE INTERESTS OF OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS OF CYPRIOTS.

[pantheman]

Here are some figures comparing , literacy , infant mortality and life expectancy between Turkey and Cyprus :
LITTERACY RATE INFANT MORTALITY LIFE EXPECTANCY.

TURKEY : 87% 38.3/1000 72.9

CYPRUS : 99% 6.89/1000 80.5

Here you have it , Shah was right in some respects. Turkey is way behind Cyprus in those areas that really can be used as criteria for measuring a nations standing in the world.
The Turks live an average of 7.5 years less than the Cypriots , their baby death rates are 38 per thousand as against 8 for Cyprus !
Turkey needs Europe to help combat these dreadful statistics that are almost as high as as those of the Middle East and North Africa.
We live longer in Cyprus by 7.5 years and we only have an infant mortality rate per 1000 live births of under 7 , bearing in mind that the world average is 55 , that of the UK is 5.01 , the USA 6.37 , Turkeys IMR at 38.3 is considerably higher. The Turkish politicians are no doubt familiar with these statistics and are naturally concerned in improving life in Turkey . EU membership for Turkey is crucial not only for Turkish people but for the Greeks and the Cypriots. Does Turkey have the vision and the will to continue its journey into the 21st century ?

Good post Miltiades,bravo.

It puts things into perspective. But I wouldn't hold my breath for Turkey, I really don't see and real changes any time soon. Sad.

Exactly the same things were said of Greece my lovely...I do love you people who live on sound bites from your own propaganda.......Tabloid brains for tabloid expectations...

Here you are again sugar lips, denying your own existance. Shame on you. If you disput the figures then post your own and lets compare. I posted in response to the figures shown, if you question them, then lets see yours otherwise STFU. Moron. You should be supporting the efforts to improve your country not waste you time nit picking.

[boomerang]

Here are some figures comparing , literacy , infant mortality and life expectancy between Turkey and Cyprus :
LITTERACY RATE INFANT MORTALITY LIFE EXPECTANCY.

TURKEY : 87% 38.3/1000 72.9

CYPRUS : 99% 6.89/1000 80.5

Here you have it , Shah was right in some respects. Turkey is way behind Cyprus in those areas that really can be used as criteria for measuring a nations standing in the world.
The Turks live an average of 7.5 years less than the Cypriots , their baby death rates are 38 per thousand as against 8 for Cyprus !
Turkey needs Europe to help combat these dreadful statistics that are almost as high as as those of the Middle East and North Africa.
We live longer in Cyprus by 7.5 years and we only have an infant mortality rate per 1000 live births of under 7 , bearing in mind that the world average is 55 , that of the UK is 5.01 , the USA 6.37 , Turkeys IMR at 38.3 is considerably higher. The Turkish politicians are no doubt familiar with these statistics and are naturally concerned in improving life in Turkey . EU membership for Turkey is crucial not only for Turkish people but for the Greeks and the Cypriots. Does Turkey have the vision and the will to continue its journey into the 21st century ?

Good post Miltiades,bravo.

It puts things into perspective. But I wouldn't hold my breath for Turkey, I really don't see and real changes any time soon. Sad.

Exactly the same things were said of Greece my lovely...I do love you people who live on sound bites from your own propaganda.......Tabloid brains for tabloid expectations...

You are correct...but here comes the but...The magic word here Zan old boy is were... when do you think "turkey=fascist state" will see the light?...in your own opiniion which century?

If it wasn't for the EU then you would still be living in your own shit Boomers...Turkey is getting there...Just because you did it first with the HELP of the EU doesn't mean you can now get on your high horse and mock others...Except for when it is political and you have a lot to gain from it that is.....But that is called sabotage!!!

Hey Zan, here is something even Talat didn't know...The RoC is a giver to the EU and has been from day one...Not a recipient...So what help are you talking about?

No IMF loans for starters...you would do well to know facts prior to saying hearsay

[Oracle]

We must look at things in a clear and concise fashion not allowing our judgement to be clouded by preconceived notions and prejudices.Turkey is a vast country with an ever expanding infrastructure , a country that has the capacity to take on the best in Europe as far as manufactured goods are concerned , Turkish refrigeration , glassware manufacture domestic appliances and consumer goods of all type are well received in Europe. The Turkish business man is as acute and efficient as his European counterparts. We need Turkey to continue making strides in the direction of progress for the benefit of the Turkish people and those around them. A Turkey out of Europe WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE INTERESTS OF OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS OF CYPRIOTS.

If Turkey becomes a modern state it will not be a threat to Cyprus or anyone else ..... but an equal World partner.

However joining Europe would be detrimental for the identity of Turkey ...

[zan]

Here are some figures comparing , literacy , infant mortality and life expectancy between Turkey and Cyprus :
LITTERACY RATE INFANT MORTALITY LIFE EXPECTANCY.

TURKEY : 87% 38.3/1000 72.9

CYPRUS : 99% 6.89/1000 80.5

Here you have it , Shah was right in some respects. Turkey is way behind Cyprus in those areas that really can be used as criteria for measuring a nations standing in the world.
The Turks live an average of 7.5 years less than the Cypriots , their baby death rates are 38 per thousand as against 8 for Cyprus !
Turkey needs Europe to help combat these dreadful statistics that are almost as high as as those of the Middle East and North Africa.
We live longer in Cyprus by 7.5 years and we only have an infant mortality rate per 1000 live births of under 7 , bearing in mind that the world average is 55 , that of the UK is 5.01 , the USA 6.37 , Turkeys IMR at 38.3 is considerably higher. The Turkish politicians are no doubt familiar with these statistics and are naturally concerned in improving life in Turkey . EU membership for Turkey is crucial not only for Turkish people but for the Greeks and the Cypriots. Does Turkey have the vision and the will to continue its journey into the 21st century ?

Good post Miltiades,bravo.

It puts things into perspective. But I wouldn't hold my breath for Turkey, I really don't see and real changes any time soon. Sad.

Exactly the same things were said of Greece my lovely...I do love you people who live on sound bites from your own propaganda.......Tabloid brains for tabloid expectations...

You are correct...but here comes the but...The magic word here Zan old boy is were... when do you think "turkey=fascist state" will see the light?...in your own opiniion which century?

If it wasn't for the EU then you would still be living in your own shit Boomers...Turkey is getting there...Just because you did it first with the HELP of the EU doesn't mean you can now get on your high horse and mock others...Except for when it is political and you have a lot to gain from it that is.....But that is called sabotage!!!

Hey Zan, here is something even Talat didn't know...The RoC is a giver to the EU and has been from day one...Not a recipient...So what help are you talking about?

No IMF loans for starters...you would do well to know facts prior to saying hearsay

Yeh! Giver of a massive headache as in the CYprob...Many EU politicians and countries are regretting letting you in........Speaks volumes I think...

[boomerang]

Here are some figures comparing , literacy , infant mortality and life expectancy between Turkey and Cyprus :
LITTERACY RATE INFANT MORTALITY LIFE EXPECTANCY.

TURKEY : 87% 38.3/1000 72.9

CYPRUS : 99% 6.89/1000 80.5

Here you have it , Shah was right in some respects. Turkey is way behind Cyprus in those areas that really can be used as criteria for measuring a nations standing in the world.
The Turks live an average of 7.5 years less than the Cypriots , their baby death rates are 38 per thousand as against 8 for Cyprus !
Turkey needs Europe to help combat these dreadful statistics that are almost as high as as those of the Middle East and North Africa.
We live longer in Cyprus by 7.5 years and we only have an infant mortality rate per 1000 live births of under 7 , bearing in mind that the world average is 55 , that of the UK is 5.01 , the USA 6.37 , Turkeys IMR at 38.3 is considerably higher. The Turkish politicians are no doubt familiar with these statistics and are naturally concerned in improving life in Turkey . EU membership for Turkey is crucial not only for Turkish people but for the Greeks and the Cypriots. Does Turkey have the vision and the will to continue its journey into the 21st century ?

Good post Miltiades,bravo.

It puts things into perspective. But I wouldn't hold my breath for Turkey, I really don't see and real changes any time soon. Sad.

Exactly the same things were said of Greece my lovely...I do love you people who live on sound bites from your own propaganda.......Tabloid brains for tabloid expectations...

You are correct...but here comes the but...The magic word here Zan old boy is were... when do you think "turkey=fascist state" will see the light?...in your own opiniion which century?

If it wasn't for the EU then you would still be living in your own shit Boomers...Turkey is getting there...Just because you did it first with the HELP of the EU doesn't mean you can now get on your high horse and mock others...Except for when it is political and you have a lot to gain from it that is.....But that is called sabotage!!!

Hey Zan, here is something even Talat didn't know...The RoC is a giver to the EU and has been from day one...Not a recipient...So what help are you talking about?

No IMF loans for starters...you would do well to know facts prior to saying hearsay

Yeh! Giver of a massive headache as in the CYprob...Many EU politicians and countries are regretting letting you in........Speaks volumes I think...

Show me an EU body that came and said that...Individuals might have made comments as such, but other individuals also make comments to "turkey=fascist state" has no place in the EU...So who is correct here Zan?

End of the day nothing changes the facts that the RoC is a giver and not a recipient...

[zan]

Here are some figures comparing , literacy , infant mortality and life expectancy between Turkey and Cyprus :
LITTERACY RATE INFANT MORTALITY LIFE EXPECTANCY.

TURKEY : 87% 38.3/1000 72.9

CYPRUS : 99% 6.89/1000 80.5

Here you have it , Shah was right in some respects. Turkey is way behind Cyprus in those areas that really can be used as criteria for measuring a nations standing in the world.
The Turks live an average of 7.5 years less than the Cypriots , their baby death rates are 38 per thousand as against 8 for Cyprus !
Turkey needs Europe to help combat these dreadful statistics that are almost as high as as those of the Middle East and North Africa.
We live longer in Cyprus by 7.5 years and we only have an infant mortality rate per 1000 live births of under 7 , bearing in mind that the world average is 55 , that of the UK is 5.01 , the USA 6.37 , Turkeys IMR at 38.3 is considerably higher. The Turkish politicians are no doubt familiar with these statistics and are naturally concerned in improving life in Turkey . EU membership for Turkey is crucial not only for Turkish people but for the Greeks and the Cypriots. Does Turkey have the vision and the will to continue its journey into the 21st century ?

Good post Miltiades,bravo.

It puts things into perspective. But I wouldn't hold my breath for Turkey, I really don't see and real changes any time soon. Sad.

Exactly the same things were said of Greece my lovely...I do love you people who live on sound bites from your own propaganda.......Tabloid brains for tabloid expectations...

You are correct...but here comes the but...The magic word here Zan old boy is were... when do you think "turkey=fascist state" will see the light?...in your own opiniion which century?

If it wasn't for the EU then you would still be living in your own shit Boomers...Turkey is getting there...Just because you did it first with the HELP of the EU doesn't mean you can now get on your high horse and mock others...Except for when it is political and you have a lot to gain from it that is.....But that is called sabotage!!!

Hey Zan, here is something even Talat didn't know...The RoC is a giver to the EU and has been from day one...Not a recipient...So what help are you talking about?

No IMF loans for starters...you would do well to know facts prior to saying hearsay

Yeh! Giver of a massive headache as in the CYprob...Many EU politicians and countries are regretting letting you in........Speaks volumes I think...

Show me an EU body that came and said that...Individuals might have made comments as such, but other individuals also make comments to "turkey=fascist state" has no place in the EU...So who is correct here Zan?

End of the day nothing changes the facts that the RoC is a giver and not a recipient...

Don't get so defensive about facts Boomers....Are we feelin hurt now!!!...Do you mean individuals in government positions and or in high ranking positions in the EU

[boomerang]

Here are some figures comparing , literacy , infant mortality and life expectancy between Turkey and Cyprus :
LITTERACY RATE INFANT MORTALITY LIFE EXPECTANCY.

TURKEY : 87% 38.3/1000 72.9

CYPRUS : 99% 6.89/1000 80.5

Here you have it , Shah was right in some respects. Turkey is way behind Cyprus in those areas that really can be used as criteria for measuring a nations standing in the world.
The Turks live an average of 7.5 years less than the Cypriots , their baby death rates are 38 per thousand as against 8 for Cyprus !
Turkey needs Europe to help combat these dreadful statistics that are almost as high as as those of the Middle East and North Africa.
We live longer in Cyprus by 7.5 years and we only have an infant mortality rate per 1000 live births of under 7 , bearing in mind that the world average is 55 , that of the UK is 5.01 , the USA 6.37 , Turkeys IMR at 38.3 is considerably higher. The Turkish politicians are no doubt familiar with these statistics and are naturally concerned in improving life in Turkey . EU membership for Turkey is crucial not only for Turkish people but for the Greeks and the Cypriots. Does Turkey have the vision and the will to continue its journey into the 21st century ?

Good post Miltiades,bravo.

It puts things into perspective. But I wouldn't hold my breath for Turkey, I really don't see and real changes any time soon. Sad.

Exactly the same things were said of Greece my lovely...I do love you people who live on sound bites from your own propaganda.......Tabloid brains for tabloid expectations...

You are correct...but here comes the but...The magic word here Zan old boy is were... when do you think "turkey=fascist state" will see the light?...in your own opiniion which century?

If it wasn't for the EU then you would still be living in your own shit Boomers...Turkey is getting there...Just because you did it first with the HELP of the EU doesn't mean you can now get on your high horse and mock others...Except for when it is political and you have a lot to gain from it that is.....But that is called sabotage!!!

Hey Zan, here is something even Talat didn't know...The RoC is a giver to the EU and has been from day one...Not a recipient...So what help are you talking about?

No IMF loans for starters...you would do well to know facts prior to saying hearsay

Yeh! Giver of a massive headache as in the CYprob...Many EU politicians and countries are regretting letting you in........Speaks volumes I think...

Show me an EU body that came and said that...Individuals might have made comments as such, but other individuals also make comments to "turkey=fascist state" has no place in the EU...So who is correct here Zan?

End of the day nothing changes the facts that the RoC is a giver and not a recipient...

Don't get so defensive about facts Boomers....Are we feelin hurt now!!!...Do you mean individuals in government positions and or in high ranking positions in the EU

Who is getting upset old chap?...your argument cuts both ways...Individulas are entitled to their opinions...such is life...

For starters here are some high level individuals that made such claims..."turkey=fascist state" has no place in the EU...Merket and Saro...Can you claim such high level individuals making comments about the RoC?...

I know a hard pill to swallow...but facts are facts...

[Paphitis]

Here are some figures comparing , literacy , infant mortality and life expectancy between Turkey and Cyprus :
LITTERACY RATE INFANT MORTALITY LIFE EXPECTANCY.

TURKEY : 87% 38.3/1000 72.9

CYPRUS : 99% 6.89/1000 80.5

Here you have it , Shah was right in some respects. Turkey is way behind Cyprus in those areas that really can be used as criteria for measuring a nations standing in the world.
The Turks live an average of 7.5 years less than the Cypriots , their baby death rates are 38 per thousand as against 8 for Cyprus !
Turkey needs Europe to help combat these dreadful statistics that are almost as high as as those of the Middle East and North Africa.
We live longer in Cyprus by 7.5 years and we only have an infant mortality rate per 1000 live births of under 7 , bearing in mind that the world average is 55 , that of the UK is 5.01 , the USA 6.37 , Turkeys IMR at 38.3 is considerably higher. The Turkish politicians are no doubt familiar with these statistics and are naturally concerned in improving life in Turkey . EU membership for Turkey is crucial not only for Turkish people but for the Greeks and the Cypriots. Does Turkey have the vision and the will to continue its journey into the 21st century ?

Good post Miltiades,bravo.

It puts things into perspective. But I wouldn't hold my breath for Turkey, I really don't see and real changes any time soon. Sad.

Exactly the same things were said of Greece my lovely...I do love you people who live on sound bites from your own propaganda.......Tabloid brains for tabloid expectations...

You are correct...but here comes the but...The magic word here Zan old boy is were... when do you think "turkey=fascist state" will see the light?...in your own opiniion which century?

If it wasn't for the EU then you would still be living in your own shit Boomers...Turkey is getting there...Just because you did it first with the HELP of the EU doesn't mean you can now get on your high horse and mock others...Except for when it is political and you have a lot to gain from it that is.....But that is called sabotage!!!

Hey Zan, here is something even Talat didn't know...The RoC is a giver to the EU and has been from day one...Not a recipient...So what help are you talking about?

No IMF loans for starters...you would do well to know facts prior to saying hearsay

Yeh! Giver of a massive headache as in the CYprob...Many EU politicians and countries are regretting letting you in........Speaks volumes I think...

Please provide the links.

And I am not talking about small isolated referances. I request links where the whole EU has regretted the entry of Cyprus.