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Postby Eric dayi » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:09 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:When you talk about us TCs it's always "they"..."they" this and "they" that.

When you talk about the TRNC, you always put in inverted comas.

Anything you say about the so-called "RoC" you use the word "legal" but anything about uc TC or the TRNC it's always "illegal" this and "illegal" that.

You use the word "puppet" when you talk about the TRNC and/or it's Government/President.

And you get upset when I call you a CONVERT or other TCs don't believe you are a TC but are a GC? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


If Kikapu's last post upset you do a search and read his memoirs of last year's summer vacation to the RoC... you'll probably commit suicide! :lol:


As if I would believe anything that comes out of his mouth. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:17 pm

Eric dayi wrote:
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When have you Mr.Salesman????You constantly try to sell me bullshit and wonder why you keep getting it back..... :roll: :roll: :roll:



Zan , if all Cypriots shared my views there would be no Cyprob , and if all shared your views there would be NO CYPRUS !
Your contribution to a solution and to the future generations aspirations
is paramount to a barrel of dynamite in a public place.


Miltiades, my good friend, you have to understand what Zan and all the other NeoPartitionist are going through ever since the 2004 Annan Plan, the disguised Partition "Virgin Birth" Confederacy concept failed to give them everything they had dreamed off, legally, than what they have now, which is illegal, and at the same time, see the destruction of the RoC. They have been agonizing for the past 4 years over their attempt that failed miserably. If they truly want true peace and a fair settlement, which every Cypriot deserves, GC's and TC's, then they would accept True Democracy and True Federation, which is the middle point between a Unitary state what the GC's wanted, and a Confederacy state, which is what the TC's wanted. That is a compromise that we should all be able to live with, with all the individual citizens constitutional rights protected in the new Constitution in the new Cyprus Federation.

Anything else is just pure crap and should be ignored until the cows come home.


When you talk about us TCs it's always "they"..."they" this and "they" that.

When you talk about the TRNC, you always put in inverted comas.

Anything you say about the so-called "RoC" you use the word "legal" but anything about uc TC or the TRNC it's always "illegal" this and "illegal" that.

You use the word "puppet" when you talk about the TRNC and/or it's Government/President.

And you get upset when I call you a CONVERT or other TCs don't believe you are a TC but are a GC? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Good observation Eric Dayi.

The reason why I do all the things you have stated, is because as a TC, I do not approve of all the things that the NeoPartitionist stand for, or the actions that the "TRNC" takes which are in violation of others Human Rights and legality. If I use the term "we" as in we the TC's, then it would imply that I approve the actions of the NeoPartitionist and the "TRNC", which I do not.

Just for the record, I do not get upset when you use the "convert" language. First of all, it is a stupid remark to make, because how can one convert from being a Cypriot to being a Cypriot!!! I make my points from the views of a Cypriot. Since TC's and GC's are both Cypriots in reality, no matter how much some TC's resist that "label", they are Cypriots if they are born in Cyprus, or anywhere in the world to Cypriot parents. When you make the statement that I and Bir have "converted", you are implying that we have converted from being a TC to a GC.!!! Just how can one do that.?? We are already Cypriots. If you know, I would like to hear it. I'm also a non believer, so there goes any religious conversion theory, so what's next.??

Just because I pick on the NeoPartitionist and the "TRNC", don't be fooled to think that I approve everything that goes on in the RoC. Just because I point out our faults in the TC community, the "TRNC" and foreign policy of Turkey when it comes to Cyprus, it is because I care about the TC community and would like to see them be part of Cyprus to build a better future with the GC's on the island. Both communities are from the island, therefore stands the reason to build a future together. At this point in time, the "enemy" of the TC community are the ones who are more interested for their own personal gains with "Haram Money" than being interested in making Cyprus a better place for all to live. I'm for all Cypriots and not just for one or the other. I complain about my community, because I care and do not want them to disappear just like the people of the
Kickapoo Indian Tribe (Kikapoo, Kikapu) in America. Now you know who the Kikapu's really were/are, since there are only few thousand of them left in the States, due to the European Settlers invading their land and culture.
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:25 pm

Eric dayi wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:When you talk about us TCs it's always "they"..."they" this and "they" that.

When you talk about the TRNC, you always put in inverted comas.

Anything you say about the so-called "RoC" you use the word "legal" but anything about uc TC or the TRNC it's always "illegal" this and "illegal" that.

You use the word "puppet" when you talk about the TRNC and/or it's Government/President.

And you get upset when I call you a CONVERT or other TCs don't believe you are a TC but are a GC? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


If Kikapu's last post upset you do a search and read his memoirs of last year's summer vacation to the RoC... you'll probably commit suicide! :lol:


As if I would believe anything that comes out of his mouth. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


It was a one year ago today GR. Here is the link Eric dayi.

"Kikapu's time in Cyprus......The Report"
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... pus+cyprus

If you want to read the link with all the inputs and fighting from the NeoPartitionist, you may find this one also interesting.

"Kikapu's time in Cyprus"
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... pus+cyprus
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:26 pm

Kikapu wrote:Just because I pick on the NeoPartitionist and the "TRNC", don't be fooled to think that I approve everything that goes on in the RoC.

Kikapu, I'd be VERY interested to read an article on all the things happening in the RoC you disapprove of, and by the same token I'd like to see a similar article written by Bananiot on all that he doesn't approve happening in the "TRNC".

PLEASE... :)
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:29 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Just because I pick on the NeoPartitionist and the "TRNC", don't be fooled to think that I approve everything that goes on in the RoC.

Kikapu, I'd be VERY interested to read an article on all the things happening in the RoC you disapprove of, and by the same token I'd like to see a similar article written by Bananiot on all that he doesn't approve happening in the "TRNC".

PLEASE... :)


I do not have time right now GR, but I'll try to get back to you at later date.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:30 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Just because I pick on the NeoPartitionist and the "TRNC", don't be fooled to think that I approve everything that goes on in the RoC.

Kikapu, I'd be VERY interested to read an article on all the things happening in the RoC you disapprove of, and by the same token I'd like to see a similar article written by Bananiot on all that he doesn't approve happening in the "TRNC".

PLEASE... :)


I do not have time right now GR, but I'll try to get back to you at later date.

Fare enough... :)
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:34 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
miltiades wrote:
zan wrote:
When have you Mr.Salesman????You constantly try to sell me bullshit and wonder why you keep getting it back..... :roll: :roll: :roll:



Zan , if all Cypriots shared my views there would be no Cyprob , and if all shared your views there would be NO CYPRUS !
Your contribution to a solution and to the future generations aspirations
is paramount to a barrel of dynamite in a public place.


Miltiades, my good friend, you have to understand what Zan and all the other NeoPartitionist are going through ever since the 2004 Annan Plan, the disguised Partition "Virgin Birth" Confederacy concept failed to give them everything they had dreamed off, legally, than what they have now, which is illegal, and at the same time, see the destruction of the RoC. They have been agonizing for the past 4 years over their attempt that failed miserably. If they truly want true peace and a fair settlement, which every Cypriot deserves, GC's and TC's, then they would accept True Democracy and True Federation, which is the middle point between a Unitary state what the GC's wanted, and a Confederacy state, which is what the TC's wanted. That is a compromise that we should all be able to live with, with all the individual citizens constitutional rights protected in the new Constitution in the new Cyprus Federation.

Anything else is just pure crap and should be ignored until the cows come home.


When you talk about us TCs it's always "they"..."they" this and "they" that.

When you talk about the TRNC, you always put in inverted comas.

Anything you say about the so-called "RoC" you use the word "legal" but anything about uc TC or the TRNC it's always "illegal" this and "illegal" that.

You use the word "puppet" when you talk about the TRNC and/or it's Government/President.

And you get upset when I call you a CONVERT or other TCs don't believe you are a TC but are a GC? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Good observation Eric Dayi.

The reason why I do all the things you have stated, is because as a TC, I do not approve of all the things that the NeoPartitionist stand for, or the actions that the "TRNC" takes which are in violation of others Human Rights and legality. If I use the term "we" as in we the TC's, then it would imply that I approve the actions of the NeoPartitionist and the "TRNC", which I do not.

Just for the record, I do not get upset when you use the "convert" language. First of all, it is a stupid remark to make, because how can one convert from being a Cypriot to being a Cypriot!!! I make my points from the views of a Cypriot. Since TC's and GC's are both Cypriots in reality, no matter how much some TC's resist that "label", they are Cypriots if they are born in Cyprus, or anywhere in the world to Cypriot parents. When you make the statement that I and Bir have "converted", you are implying that we have converted from being a TC to a GC.!!! Just how can one do that.?? We are already Cypriots. If you know, I would like to hear it. I'm also a non believer, so there goes any religious conversion theory, so what's next.??

Just because I pick on the NeoPartitionist and the "TRNC", don't be fooled to think that I approve everything that goes on in the RoC. Just because I point out our faults in the TC community, the "TRNC" and foreign policy of Turkey when it comes to Cyprus, it is because I care about the TC community and would like to see them be part of Cyprus to build a better future with the GC's on the island. Both communities are from the island, therefore stands the reason to build a future together. At this point in time, the "enemy" of the TC community are the ones who are more interested for their own personal gains with "Haram Money" than being interested in making Cyprus a better place for all to live. I'm for all Cypriots and not just for one or the other. I complain about my community, because I care and do not want them to disappear just like the people of the
Kickapoo Indian Tribe (Kikapoo, Kikapu) in America. Now you know who the Kikapu's really were/are, since there are only few thousand of them left in the States, due to the European Settlers invading their land and culture.


You are sinking depper and deeper, you are a GC to us and prove this beyond a doubt with every post saying you are not, you say there is no difference so whats your problem with being labelled a GC, your views are 100% in line with theirs and you do not argue anything not even the minimum of any viewpoint pro TC at all, never. your terminology is totally GC orientated, if you are TC and proud of it be a man and reveal your identity so that we may cross check if you are telling the truth once and for all. Then maybe you can tell us the truth about what the TC or Turks did to you that was so wrong for you to be so anti TC community, until this time your credibilty is zero. If you do not want to reveal your identity to the forum you can do it via private message or give me details of your family here in the TRNC so that I can cross check that you are telling the the truth otherwise you will always be conisdered a GC propogandist and no one will take you seriously as you will be the biggest liar here by changing your identity to argue the GC point of view even more fircely than the GCs themselves.
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Postby bilako22 » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:34 pm

If this Kikapu geezer is from a Tc background something must have happened to him or his family to make him become a lover of Greeks and a hater of Turks. He certainly sounds very Gc in his contributions.
It does not matter where he comes from , he should be judged on his contributions.
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Postby zan » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:35 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:When you talk about us TCs it's always "they"..."they" this and "they" that.

When you talk about the TRNC, you always put in inverted comas.

Anything you say about the so-called "RoC" you use the word "legal" but anything about uc TC or the TRNC it's always "illegal" this and "illegal" that.

You use the word "puppet" when you talk about the TRNC and/or it's Government/President.

And you get upset when I call you a CONVERT or other TCs don't believe you are a TC but are a GC? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

If Kikapu's last post upset you do a search and read his memoirs of last year's summer vacation to the RoC... you'll probably commit suicide! :lol:


I knoooooooooooow!!! :shock: Don't give up the day job kikapolis... :lol:
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Postby zan » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:41 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Just because I pick on the NeoPartitionist and the "TRNC", don't be fooled to think that I approve everything that goes on in the RoC.

Kikapu, I'd be VERY interested to read an article on all the things happening in the RoC you disapprove of, and by the same token I'd like to see a similar article written by Bananiot on all that he doesn't approve happening in the "TRNC".

PLEASE... :)


I do not have time right now GR, but I'll try to get back to you at later date.

Fare enough... :)


hahahaaaaaa! I think some sort of studying time is needed because he has no idea about what is going on in the so called "RoC"...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: PMSL......
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