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Technically there are no Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus

Postby boomerang » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:33 am

Theoretically speaking they arean't any Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus...Considering "turkey=fascist state" became a fascist country in the early 1900...

What we have here are Ottomans...So they should be refered to as the Ottoman Cypriots...

To be called a Turkish Cypriot, you must come from "turkey=fascist state" after 1920 and settled in Cyprus...

If the Ottomans claim they have been in Cyprus for over 400 years then how could they be known as Turkish Cypriots?
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:13 am

Technically there are no Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus


This is actually correct but the real reason is the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne when all Turkish Cypriots remaining on Cyprus signed away their Turkish nationality.

Those who loved and were loyal to Turkey were honorable enough to say "No thank you, we're leaving" and left.
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Postby boomerang » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:16 am

YOu say the Turkish Cypriots stayed in Cyprus...You mean the Ottomans that stayed?...

How could they be Turkish Cypriots when there was no "turkey=fascists state" in the first place...Or are you saying all the Turkish Cypriots came from "turkey=fascists state" after 1923...
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:20 am

Having lost in WWI Turkey had officially signed away ALL CLAIMS TO CYPRUS, including the right of intervention, in the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne.

http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/treaty_of_lausanne.htm

ARTICLE 20.
Turkey hereby recognises the annexation of Cyprus proclaimed by the British Government on the sth November, 1914.


In the next article (21) the message to Turkish Cypriots is very clear… either become Cypriot or move back to Turkey. The choice was theirs.

ARTICLE 2I .
Turkish nationals ordinarily resident in Cyprus on the 5th November, 1914, will acquire British nationality subject to the conditions laid down in the local law, and will thereupon lose their Turkish nationality. They will, however, have the right to opt for Turkish nationality within two years from the coming into force of the present Treaty, provided that they leave Cyprus within twelve months after having so opted.
Turkish nationals ordinarily resident in Cyprus on the coming into force of the present Treaty who, at that date, have acquired or are in process of acquiring British nationality in consequence of a request made in accordance with the local law, will also thereupon lose their Turkish nationality.
It is understood that the Government of Cyprus will be entitled to refuse British nationality to inhabitants of the island who, being Turkish nationals, had formerly acquired another nationality without the consent of the Turkish Government.
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Postby boomerang » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:24 am

I know what you are saying my point is to beTurkish anything you need to come form "turkey=fascist state"...the tcs never came form "turkey=fascist state" in the first state...

They were Ottomans that stayed behind...So my point is why are they called Turkish anything?...if they weren't citizens of "turkey=fascist state" in the first place...
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:31 am

boomerang wrote:I know what you are saying my point is to beTurkish anything you need to come form "turkey=fascist state"...the tcs never came form "turkey=fascist state" in the first state...

They were Ottomans that stayed behind...So my point is why are they called Turkish anything?...if they weren't citizens of "turkey=fascist state" in the first place...

Well no, Turkey didn't exist back then. The Ottomans would get rid of all their bad apples by sending them away to serve on captured territory etc. Being sent to Cyprus was a form of exile and when they would arrive here they were always rejected by the locals for obvious reasons and thus the identity crisis.
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Postby boomerang » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:35 am

So in short they can't really claim turkish anything...and yes you are right...identity crisis to the max... :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:44 am

boomerang wrote:So in short they can't really claim turkish anything...and yes you are right...identity crisis to the max... :lol:

Those that have never managed to become Cypriots were left with the "Turkish Wannabie" status... :(
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Postby Oracle » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:45 am

So are they going to want an "Ottoman Republic of North Cyprus" partitioned from the "Turkish Republic of North Cyprus" ..... :?

Would they have this further "North" or further "South" or further "West" .......

e.g.

"Ottoman Republic of North-East North Cyprus" .... "ORNENC"

or if they had the Morphou Bay area partitioned off it would be

"Ottoman Republic of South-West North Cyprus" .... The "ORSWNC"

But wait, if that bit was partitioned off from "TRNC", then the "TRNC" would have to be renamed "Turkish Republic of North East and South Northern Cyprus" or the "TRNESNC".


:?

I wander what tessintrnc will call herself? :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:50 am

Oracle wrote:I wander what tessintrnc will call herself? :lol:


Hmm... a Royal Otto? :?
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