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Postby LENA » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:18 pm

purdey wrote:I believe from experience, I have a 12 year old daughter. Children today are maturing quickly. There child like days seem to end before the last year of primary school. They seem to have a confidence and are more aware of what is happening in the world. This maybe down to Tv, internet, and alike but on the whole they seem far more mature.
In secondry school the approach seems different, more emphasis is put on interaction with the child, rather than quoting constantly from books, views are sought even if it contradicts what is written. Conversation in general is more adult themed and expression is not frowned upon.
I am delighted with the education my daughter recieves, she enjoys school and has likes and respects the teaching staff.
There are downsides of course, I am not wholly in favour of some of the sex education classes taught, but on the whole the learning process seems to more relaxed with attention focusing on attaining good results in exams.


You are so right! Yes technology and social changes make the children grow up earlier. I mean how early did you know about sex stuff in a way children know these days? But because of all that (technology etc) school cant just stay where it was in the past ... need to modernize as well. Need to prepare at some point those children to go out in the society as proper adults. My brother went to primary school this year and they have a program that teach them about hygiene etc. But when parents went to some small presentation of what their children are been taught to the school through that program we found out that in 2nd, 3rd and up to 6th grade they are taught about different things like how to control their emotions and anger, how to say no to smoking, drinking and drugs and also how to respect their body and see breast, ass and other parts of the body as normal things and not think of them in a sexual way. I found it quite interesting and very informative myself too. And guess what I am not against to that program at all.

During the two last years at hight school/lyceum I took an optional class about taking care infants/children, pregnancy etc etc and a part of it was about contraception. Guess what? We did not know most of them, and some of the girls had already sexual contact so I dont see it as a bad thing but as a good thing as well and I hope it keeps being taught to schools. If they going to help children in their adult life why not? But always need to be said in the right age, in the right way.

School though cannot be stuck in the past and close the eyes in frond of the dangers that the future adults will find in frond of them as adults or teenagers or just children.
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Postby LENA » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:19 pm

free_cyprus wrote:lena you are a teacher and you dont even know how your own mind works unfortuantly from what you have wrote to me. there are ugly things out there as you hav pointed out but at least kenan hudaverdi whom i know personaly has the guts to even petition the prime minister in this idea and i totaly believe in the idea.

but since you are a teacher who does not know how her own mind works perhaps you can put forth and idea that will benefit the human race


Why is that Free-cyprus?
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Postby LENA » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:20 pm

Get Real! wrote:
LENA wrote:Will get back later... I really have to go now :oops:

Is nature calling? :?


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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:45 pm

LENA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
LENA wrote:Will get back later... I really have to go now :oops:

Is nature calling? :?


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Postby free_cyprus » Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:32 am

LENA wrote:
purdey wrote:I believe from experience, I have a 12 year old daughter. Children today are maturing quickly. There child like days seem to end before the last year of primary school. They seem to have a confidence and are more aware of what is happening in the world. This maybe down to Tv, internet, and alike but on the whole they seem far more mature.
In secondry school the approach seems different, more emphasis is put on interaction with the child, rather than quoting constantly from books, views are sought even if it contradicts what is written. Conversation in general is more adult themed and expression is not frowned upon.
I am delighted with the education my daughter recieves, she enjoys school and has likes and respects the teaching staff.
There are downsides of course, I am not wholly in favour of some of the sex education classes taught, but on the whole the learning process seems to more relaxed with attention focusing on attaining good results in exams.


You are so right! Yes technology and social changes make the children grow up earlier. I mean how early did you know about sex stuff in a way children know these days? But because of all that (technology etc) school cant just stay where it was in the past ... need to modernize as well. Need to prepare at some point those children to go out in the society as proper adults. My brother went to primary school this year and they have a program that teach them about hygiene etc. But when parents went to some small presentation of what their children are been taught to the school through that program we found out that in 2nd, 3rd and up to 6th grade they are taught about different things like how to control their emotions and anger, how to say no to smoking, drinking and drugs and also how to respect their body and see breast, ass and other parts of the body as normal things and not think of them in a sexual way. I found it quite interesting and very informative myself too. And guess what I am not against to that program at all.

During the two last years at hight school/lyceum I took an optional class about taking care infants/children, pregnancy etc etc and a part of it was about contraception. Guess what? We did not know most of them, and some of the girls had already sexual contact so I dont see it as a bad thing but as a good thing as well and I hope it keeps being taught to schools. If they going to help children in their adult life why not? But always need to be said in the right age, in the right way.

School though cannot be stuck in the past and close the eyes in frond of the dangers that the future adults will find in frond of them as adults or teenagers or just children.



like i said before they teach the children all the knowladge there is but they dont teach them to love themselves and be positive thats why you have soo much racism so much bullying and if you ask me about parents today they lack not only education about themselves but they lack confidence and they lack the most important aspect of being a human and that is to love themselves as they are regardless if they are rich poor educated uneducated thin fat ect ect and the list goes n
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Postby free_cyprus » Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:47 am

LENA wrote:
free_cyprus wrote:lena you are a teacher and you dont even know how your own mind works unfortuantly from what you have wrote to me. there are ugly things out there as you hav pointed out but at least kenan hudaverdi whom i know personaly has the guts to even petition the prime minister in this idea and i totaly believe in the idea.

but since you are a teacher who does not know how her own mind works perhaps you can put forth and idea that will benefit the human race


Why is that Free-cyprus?


lena i will answer you with couple of quotations from aristotle perhaps you can work out the answers to the questions you asked me

Good habits formed at youth make all the difference.
Aristotle

Happiness depends upon ourselves.
Aristotle

The energy of the mind is the essence of life.
Aristotle

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
Aristotle
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Postby LENA » Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:15 am

free_cyprus wrote:
LENA wrote:
purdey wrote:I believe from experience, I have a 12 year old daughter. Children today are maturing quickly. There child like days seem to end before the last year of primary school. They seem to have a confidence and are more aware of what is happening in the world. This maybe down to Tv, internet, and alike but on the whole they seem far more mature.
In secondry school the approach seems different, more emphasis is put on interaction with the child, rather than quoting constantly from books, views are sought even if it contradicts what is written. Conversation in general is more adult themed and expression is not frowned upon.
I am delighted with the education my daughter recieves, she enjoys school and has likes and respects the teaching staff.
There are downsides of course, I am not wholly in favour of some of the sex education classes taught, but on the whole the learning process seems to more relaxed with attention focusing on attaining good results in exams.


You are so right! Yes technology and social changes make the children grow up earlier. I mean how early did you know about sex stuff in a way children know these days? But because of all that (technology etc) school cant just stay where it was in the past ... need to modernize as well. Need to prepare at some point those children to go out in the society as proper adults. My brother went to primary school this year and they have a program that teach them about hygiene etc. But when parents went to some small presentation of what their children are been taught to the school through that program we found out that in 2nd, 3rd and up to 6th grade they are taught about different things like how to control their emotions and anger, how to say no to smoking, drinking and drugs and also how to respect their body and see breast, ass and other parts of the body as normal things and not think of them in a sexual way. I found it quite interesting and very informative myself too. And guess what I am not against to that program at all.

During the two last years at hight school/lyceum I took an optional class about taking care infants/children, pregnancy etc etc and a part of it was about contraception. Guess what? We did not know most of them, and some of the girls had already sexual contact so I dont see it as a bad thing but as a good thing as well and I hope it keeps being taught to schools. If they going to help children in their adult life why not? But always need to be said in the right age, in the right way.

School though cannot be stuck in the past and close the eyes in frond of the dangers that the future adults will find in frond of them as adults or teenagers or just children.



like i said before they teach the children all the knowladge there is but they dont teach them to love themselves and be positive thats why you have soo much racism so much bullying and if you ask me about parents today they lack not only education about themselves but they lack confidence and they lack the most important aspect of being a human and that is to love themselves as they are regardless if they are rich poor educated uneducated thin fat ect ect and the list goes n


Let me get that right you call me racist, stupid and with parents that they lack knowledge, confidence etc etc. Oh and stupid since I dont even know how my mind works. Right? Did I wrote everything or do you have anything else to add here? :roll:
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Postby tessintrnc » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:02 am

I think that most parents teach their children to have confidence - children are all different though, you cannot put them in a class and treat them all the same! The only way to have a perfect society where everyone is (supposedly) equal etc is PURE communism. But...........history has shown that communism is far too perfect in its pure form for us imperfect human beings. Teaching children not to hate and look down on others because of race, religion or colour SHOULD be taught in the home and school but as is clear on this forum for example - theres and awful lot of hate, anger and predudice that must surely be being passed on to the children ?? Maybe the ideology put forward on the video could be achieved, but not I fear in this or the next generation. Lena I am sure that you are an excellent teacher and I would be very happy for someone like you to teach my children.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:15 am

Confidence in children comes from living in a healthy society where they see by example, how to respect the Law, Human Rights and other people's property.
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Postby free_cyprus » Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:01 am

LENA wrote:
free_cyprus wrote:
LENA wrote:
purdey wrote:I believe from experience, I have a 12 year old daughter. Children today are maturing quickly. There child like days seem to end before the last year of primary school. They seem to have a confidence and are more aware of what is happening in the world. This maybe down to Tv, internet, and alike but on the whole they seem far more mature.
In secondry school the approach seems different, more emphasis is put on interaction with the child, rather than quoting constantly from books, views are sought even if it contradicts what is written. Conversation in general is more adult themed and expression is not frowned upon.
I am delighted with the education my daughter recieves, she enjoys school and has likes and respects the teaching staff.
There are downsides of course, I am not wholly in favour of some of the sex education classes taught, but on the whole the learning process seems to more relaxed with attention focusing on attaining good results in exams.


You are so right! Yes technology and social changes make the children grow up earlier. I mean how early did you know about sex stuff in a way children know these days? But because of all that (technology etc) school cant just stay where it was in the past ... need to modernize as well. Need to prepare at some point those children to go out in the society as proper adults. My brother went to primary school this year and they have a program that teach them about hygiene etc. But when parents went to some small presentation of what their children are been taught to the school through that program we found out that in 2nd, 3rd and up to 6th grade they are taught about different things like how to control their emotions and anger, how to say no to smoking, drinking and drugs and also how to respect their body and see breast, ass and other parts of the body as normal things and not think of them in a sexual way. I found it quite interesting and very informative myself too. And guess what I am not against to that program at all.

During the two last years at hight school/lyceum I took an optional class about taking care infants/children, pregnancy etc etc and a part of it was about contraception. Guess what? We did not know most of them, and some of the girls had already sexual contact so I dont see it as a bad thing but as a good thing as well and I hope it keeps being taught to schools. If they going to help children in their adult life why not? But always need to be said in the right age, in the right way.

lena all i said to you is you dont know how your mind works i never labeled you racist or anything else you said all that

School though cannot be stuck in the past and close the eyes in frond of the dangers that the future adults will find in frond of them as adults or teenagers or just children.



like i said before they teach the children all the knowladge there is but they dont teach them to love themselves and be positive thats why you have soo much racism so much bullying and if you ask me about parents today they lack not only education about themselves but they lack confidence and they lack the most important aspect of being a human and that is to love themselves as they are regardless if they are rich poor educated uneducated thin fat ect ect and the list goes n


Let me get that right you call me racist, stupid and with parents that they lack knowledge, confidence etc etc. Oh and stupid since I dont even know how my mind works. Right? Did I wrote everything or do you have anything else to add here? :roll:
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