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Postby umit07 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:48 pm

Everyone out there I notice that you all swarm in when there is a quarel between people. Why not be a little construtive , open hearted and a bit naive for once.
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:48 pm

umit07 wrote:What did GC's think of th North before the gats opened in 2003? I heard that many thought we were living very primative lifestyles. For example when the gates first opened TC's couldn't spend more than 24 hours in the south ( or they would be fined by TC police ) and GC's who stayed th night had to show hotel receipts now you can stay up to 3 months anywhere without having any trouble.


An impression from someone who is not a gc - I thought a small group of people were doing very well in the north but that most ordinary people were struggling (I wouldn't say "primitive lifestyles as Um feels above).
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Postby umit07 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:57 pm

Bill on average I don't think it's much differnet from the south, most of the people struggling are settlers form Turkey. The bad thing in Cyprus is that there is abundance of people for the jobs, if there were less people from Turkey coming here on tourist visa's and not giong back the pays would be much higher for jobs in the private sector. This is abig reason why there are so many TC construction workers in the south a "tourist" from eastern Turkey ( mostly an arab or kurd ) does the same job for half price.
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:06 pm

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umit07 wrote:Well bill maybe it's the the best way I think that small steps need to be taken before giant leaps. You gotta put down a few chips before winning any.


I think so Um.


I see we agree that it ain't gonna happen suddenly even ifit did that way there would be a lot of caos.

Got any ideas on the steps then?
Eg: Running the Nicosia airport together, increasing trade between both sides, running joint operations in the buffer zone


I dunno Um. Errh, tell you what, as a first step, I'll swop you the end of embargos and direct flights (under the RoC aviation body) in return for Famagusta.


Deal ?


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Deal ?
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Postby Oracle » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:12 pm

umit07 wrote:Everyone out there I notice that you all swarm in when there is a quarel between people. Why not be a little construtive , open hearted and a bit naive for once.


Umit .... I am observing ... a little trepidation at joining in as I have had so many threats recently ... :?
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Postby umit07 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:14 pm

Sorry guv but no go, if it is gonna be complete control of RoC aviation body.
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Postby umit07 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:17 pm

Oracle wrote:
umit07 wrote:Everyone out there I notice that you all swarm in when there is a quarel between people. Why not be a little construtive , open hearted and a bit naive for once.


Umit .... I am observing ... a little trepidation at joining in as I have had so many threats recently ... :?


What sorts of threats? A lotof people swear at you from time to time ( including me ) but that doesn't mean we are all out to get you!
Sorry but I don't think you are sincere on the threat thing, it never stopped you in the past.
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:21 pm

umit07 wrote:Sorry guv but no go, if it is gonna be complete control of RoC aviation body.


I am no aviation expert but i think your Ercan/Tymbou airport can only be internationally OK under the official aviation authority of the Island (which is the RoC aviation authority). Anyway it's a very small point of difference.

As a little sweetener I'll also throw in a promise from all of your southern siblings that we will never call Mr Donktosh "Fatso" again.

Deal ? or No Deal ?
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Postby Oracle » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:22 pm

umit07 wrote:
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umit07 wrote:Everyone out there I notice that you all swarm in when there is a quarel between people. Why not be a little construtive , open hearted and a bit naive for once.


Umit .... I am observing ... a little trepidation at joining in as I have had so many threats recently ... :?


What sorts of threats? A lotof people swear at you from time to time ( including me ) but that doesn't mean we are all out to get you!
Sorry but I don't think you are sincere on the threat thing, it never stopped you in the past.


Twists and turns ... :?

.... and countless threads.
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Postby umit07 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:27 pm

I don't care what you call my cousin :shock: Denktash ( I've called him stuff way way worse than that, fatso is funny no problem with that ) . The problem is Bill that if we accepted that the RoC aviation body is the sole body then we would have accepted that the RoC in further steps is the sole gov. on the island which as you know don't accept on the other hand you guys feel it would be recognising the TRNC . What are ways of getting past this? This might be a topic to discuss
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