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[Viewpoint]

I don't think it matters for them VP, apart from the fact that, that exact scenario has happened before and brought us where we are now, once they obtain the overwhelming majority under the disguise of "peace and democracy" along with their lands and properties (which is what really all this is about) then the rest is just detail.

So basically they just want to reverse the state of the island to just before when everything went haywire and try again, but this time with no guarantors, very clever!

Which genius came up with this idea

Shah this is probably why we have not found a solution its unsolvable a plus for them is a minus for us and the only outcome in our lifetime is more of the same staus quo or alternatively agreed partition.

Well maybe more of the status quo is a better option in the long term VP, specially for the future of this island.

We might not ever see a solution but future generations will eventually.

Clearly 35 years is just not enough to minimise racism.

Have to agree rather the current status quo to becoming a minority in a GC state, which is what the GCs have planned for us.

[zan]

I don't think it matters for them VP, apart from the fact that, that exact scenario has happened before and brought us where we are now, once they obtain the overwhelming majority under the disguise of "peace and democracy" along with their lands and properties (which is what really all this is about) then the rest is just detail.

So basically they just want to reverse the state of the island to just before when everything went haywire and try again, but this time with no guarantors, very clever!

Which genius came up with this idea

Shah this is probably why we have not found a solution its unsolvable a plus for them is a minus for us and the only outcome in our lifetime is more of the same staus quo or alternatively agreed partition.

Well maybe more of the status quo is a better option in the long term VP, specially for the future of this island.

We might not ever see a solution but future generations will eventually.

Clearly 35 years is just not enough to minimise racism.

Have to agree rather the current status quo to becoming a minority in a GC state, which is what the GCs have planned for us.]

Just making sure they hear us VP!!!

[Eric dayi]

Paphitis people like Zan and Eric are simply responding to your racist attitudes.

You have 230 posts so far. We have made thousands of posts for peace, maybe just not in line with your understanding of "peace" or maybe you have not actually read most of them, but never the less we do not wish anything bad on anyone.

We have achieved peace as people, and where we go from here i don't know but whatever we do i do not want to take 1 step back from it. That's my understanding of "peace". Whats yours?

On the contrary, here you are making sweeping comments about other cultures, and suggesting that we are warmongers. Before you have suggested that i might kill you if we met.

Bit of an oxymoron don't you think?

Negative. I do not suggest that TCs are war mongers. I do not even suggest that you are a warmonger. But you do appear ultra nationalistic through what I have read in your posts. That is why I would have to think twice about meeting the likes of you. The risk is just not worth it. You may be a member of that neo nazi group called the "Grey Wolves" for all I know. I am not suggestion for a minute that you are. It is just that your rhetoric appears to be hardline.

I do not have any problem meeting other TCs as atleast they have shown a human side in their posts, such as Deniz and VP. I am not racist against TCs or Turks. In the end, we are all flesh and bone and we all bleed. And I do not make sweeping statements about other cultures. I firmly beleive that we can all coexist with equal opportunities for both you and I.

My idea of peace is as follows:

1) The withdraw of Turkish and Greek Troops.
2) The re-unification of the island based on a True Federal system comprising of 2 states,
3) Free movement and right of residency for all,
4) One man one vote,
5) A demilitarised island except for what is necessary for border control and law and order with a token miltary of 5000 men and women comprising of both GCs and TCs
6) TCs returning to their properties where possible,
7) GCs returning to their properties where possible,
No foreign influence from Turkey or Greece,
9) No guarantor powers for both Turkey and Greece,
10) A constitution that protects the rights of all individuals,
11) Public service and all bodies to comprise TC and GC input,
12) All settlers returning to Turkey with sufficient compensation, except for those that married a Cypriot or have children born on the island.

That is just of the top of my head. I beleive the above is achievable. And the added benefit would be that the whole region will be much more secure and stable and Turkey will become an EU member.

Ok Pipiface, let's start tearing up your suggestions.

For a start, how about number 12?

Why must all settlers return to Turkey? Are you going to push the Pontiac Greeks whom Greece didn't want and forced you GCs to take in or don't you count them as settlers?

And what about the rest of the foreigners you GCs let in and gave "Roc passports" to?

What about the PKK terrorists you GCs are harbouring and training? Are you going to keep them as well so that they can join you when you make another attempt at genociding us TCs for your ENOSIS dream?

What about the Greeks who have been imported in from Greece, what will you do with them?

Reply to this and we will have a look at the rest of your shite.


"All settlers must return to Turkey"


You are worse than the stupidest joke ever been told.

[Eric dayi]

I don't think it matters for them VP, apart from the fact that, that exact scenario has happened before and brought us where we are now, once they obtain the overwhelming majority under the disguise of "peace and democracy" along with their lands and properties (which is what really all this is about) then the rest is just detail.

So basically they just want to reverse the state of the island to just before when everything went haywire and try again, but this time with no guarantors, very clever!

Which genius came up with this idea

Shah this is probably why we have not found a solution its unsolvable a plus for them is a minus for us and the only outcome in our lifetime is more of the same staus quo or alternatively agreed partition.

Well maybe more of the status quo is a better option in the long term VP, specially for the future of this island.

We might not ever see a solution but future generations will eventually.

Clearly 35 years is just not enough to minimise racism.

Have to agree rather the current status quo to becoming a minority in a GC state, which is what the GCs have planned for us.]

Just making sure they hear us VP!!!

HEAR, HEAR, so say all of us TCs

[Big Al]

I don't think it matters for them VP, apart from the fact that, that exact scenario has happened before and brought us where we are now, once they obtain the overwhelming majority under the disguise of "peace and democracy" along with their lands and properties (which is what really all this is about) then the rest is just detail.

So basically they just want to reverse the state of the island to just before when everything went haywire and try again, but this time with no guarantors, very clever!

Which genius came up with this idea

Shah this is probably why we have not found a solution its unsolvable a plus for them is a minus for us and the only outcome in our lifetime is more of the same staus quo or alternatively agreed partition.

Well maybe more of the status quo is a better option in the long term VP, specially for the future of this island.

We might not ever see a solution but future generations will eventually.

Clearly 35 years is just not enough to minimise racism.

Have to agree rather the current status quo to becoming a minority in a GC state, which is what the GCs have planned for us.]

Just making sure they hear us VP!!!

HEAR, HEAR, so say all of us TCs

Better to be a minority in the Republic of Turkey than a minority to GC's.

[Eric dayi]

I don't think it matters for them VP, apart from the fact that, that exact scenario has happened before and brought us where we are now, once they obtain the overwhelming majority under the disguise of "peace and democracy" along with their lands and properties (which is what really all this is about) then the rest is just detail.

So basically they just want to reverse the state of the island to just before when everything went haywire and try again, but this time with no guarantors, very clever!

Which genius came up with this idea

Shah this is probably why we have not found a solution its unsolvable a plus for them is a minus for us and the only outcome in our lifetime is more of the same staus quo or alternatively agreed partition.

Well maybe more of the status quo is a better option in the long term VP, specially for the future of this island.

We might not ever see a solution but future generations will eventually.

Clearly 35 years is just not enough to minimise racism.

Have to agree rather the current status quo to becoming a minority in a GC state, which is what the GCs have planned for us.]

Just making sure they hear us VP!!!

HEAR, HEAR, so say all of us TCs

Better to be a minority in the Republic of Turkey than a minority to GC's.

Amin to that too Big Al.

Anything is got to be better than living under Greek/GC rule and not being able to call ourselves Turkish Cypriots like the Turks in Greece not being allowed by Greek Law enforced by the Greek High Court.

I am just wondering though if the GCs would accept us more as equals if we were to become communists like they have/are?

On second thoughts, forget it, I'd rather be dead than become a red commie.

[humanist]

I see the racists are having a filed day. A bit on the opposite of Mrs Talat's actions. Or is hse a liar like her husband???

[Eric dayi]

I see the racists are having a filed day.

That's a bit strong coming fropm a racist twat like you who refuses to acknowledge my Turkishness and does not want to allow me to id myself as a Turkish Cypriot, ain't that right, twat.

A bit on the opposite of Mrs Talat's actions.

Maybe she just wanted to see what a commies wife looks like. :wink::wink:

Or is hse a liar like her husband???

No matter how much a liar she or her husband is/are or could be they could never hold water against you racist lying Greeks/GCs.

You never keep your word and brake every agreement you sign.

You steal the photos of dead Turkish Cypriots that you lot murdered in your attempt to genocide us TCs for your ENOSIS dream and lie to the world that the dead TCs on the photo are GCs who were "murdered by the Turks/TC".

You lie to the world that the war in Cyprus started in 1974 and not in 1963 when you Greeks and GCs together tried to genocide us TCs for your ENOSIS dream and now you again lie to the world that you no longer want
ENOSIS when we all know that you will never give up your dream.

You disguise your true intentions for ENOSIS with the excuses and lies as "democracy" and "one man one vote" crap when the world knows that all you want is majority rule in Cyprus so that you have the power to vote for ENOSIS.

You lie to the world about your missing persons when some of them were found buried in GC grave yards at the time they died.

You sign an agreement under false pretences with us TCs as your partners in a free and new Cyprus Republic only to break the agreement again lying to the world about your true intentions for ENOSIS and also lie that the partnership was supposedly not workable.

Makarios lied to the world telling them that he was a man of God when he was nothing but a blood thirsty EOKA terrorist who washed his hands in Turkish Cypriot blood.

You elect an EOKA terrorist as your "President" and try to lie to the world that you want peace but at the same time the same terrorist "President" lies to the EU that he will accept the Annan Plan. He keeps lying to the world and makes up excuses after excuses for refusing any agreement that does not give you GCs/Greeks the chance to realise your dream for ENOSIS.

You then replace the terrorist "President" with a communist "President" and try to lie to us that he and his communist party are not really communists because they drive Mercs and BMWs, live in villas with swimming pools.

You agree to open the Ledra gate only to shut it a few hours later after the GC border police let's in protesters to cause an incident on purpose and then lie to the world that it was the TC border police who forced you to shut the gate.

And you expect us TCs to agree to let you liars take control of the whole island and turn us TCs into second class minorities? Yeah right!

[Big Al]

I see the racists are having a filed day. A bit on the opposite of Mrs Talat's actions. Or is hse a liar like her husband???

LIAR???? its called politics and greeks are the masters of it, say one thing, mean another.

[humanist]

you two are on to me, you are both so inteligent, can't fool an intelligent turk can ya