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Postby Paphitis » Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:37 pm

shahmaran wrote:Paphitis people like Zan and Eric are simply responding to your racist attitudes.

You have 230 posts so far. We have made thousands of posts for peace, maybe just not in line with your understanding of "peace" or maybe you have not actually read most of them, but never the less we do not wish anything bad on anyone.

We have achieved peace as people, and where we go from here i don't know but whatever we do i do not want to take 1 step back from it. That's my understanding of "peace". Whats yours?

On the contrary, here you are making sweeping comments about other cultures, and suggesting that we are warmongers. Before you have suggested that i might kill you if we met.

Bit of an oxymoron don't you think?


Negative. I do not suggest that TCs are war mongers. I do not even suggest that you are a warmonger. But you do appear ultra nationalistic through what I have read in your posts. That is why I would have to think twice about meeting the likes of you. The risk is just not worth it. You may be a member of that neo nazi group called the "Grey Wolves" for all I know. I am not suggestion for a minute that you are. It is just that your rhetoric appears to be hardline.

I do not have any problem meeting other TCs as atleast they have shown a human side in their posts, such as Deniz and VP. I am not racist against TCs or Turks. In the end, we are all flesh and bone and we all bleed. And I do not make sweeping statements about other cultures. I firmly beleive that we can all coexist with equal opportunities for both you and I.

My idea of peace is as follows:

1) The withdraw of Turkish and Greek Troops.
2) The re-unification of the island based on a True Federal system comprising of 2 states,
3) Free movement and right of residency for all,
4) One man one vote,
5) A demilitarised island except for what is necessary for border control and law and order with a token miltary of 5000 men and women comprising of both GCs and TCs
6) TCs returning to their properties where possible,
7) GCs returning to their properties where possible,
8) No foreign influence from Turkey or Greece,
9) No guarantor powers for both Turkey and Greece,
10) A constitution that protects the rights of all individuals,
11) Public service and all bodies to comprise TC and GC input,
12) All settlers returning to Turkey with sufficient compensation, except for those that married a Cypriot or have children born on the island.

That is just of the top of my head. I beleive the above is achievable. And the added benefit would be that the whole region will be much more secure and stable and Turkey will become an EU member.
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Postby Eric dayi » Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:46 pm

Paphitis wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Paphitis people like Zan and Eric are simply responding to your racist attitudes.

You have 230 posts so far. We have made thousands of posts for peace, maybe just not in line with your understanding of "peace" or maybe you have not actually read most of them, but never the less we do not wish anything bad on anyone.

We have achieved peace as people, and where we go from here i don't know but whatever we do i do not want to take 1 step back from it. That's my understanding of "peace". Whats yours?

On the contrary, here you are making sweeping comments about other cultures, and suggesting that we are warmongers. Before you have suggested that i might kill you if we met.

Bit of an oxymoron don't you think?


Negative. I do not suggest that TCs are war mongers. I do not even suggest that you are a warmonger. But you do appear ultra nationalistic through what I have read in your posts. That is why I would have to think twice about meeting the likes of you. The risk is just not worth it. You may be a member of that neo nazi group called the "Grey Wolves" for all I know. I am not suggestion for a minute that you are. It is just that your rhetoric appears to be hardline.

I do not have any problem meeting other TCs as atleast they have shown a human side in their posts, such as Deniz and VP. I am not racist against TCs or Turks. In the end, we are all flesh and bone and we all bleed. And I do not make sweeping statements about other cultures. I firmly beleive that we can all coexist with equal opportunities for both you and I.

My idea of peace is as follows:

1) The withdraw of Turkish and Greek Troops.
2) The re-unification of the island based on a True Federal system comprising of 2 states,
3) Free movement and right of residency for all,
4) One man one vote,
5) A demilitarised island except for what is necessary for border control and law and order with a token miltary of 5000 men and women comprising of both GCs and TCs
6) TCs returning to their properties where possible,
7) GCs returning to their properties where possible,
8) No foreign influence from Turkey or Greece,
9) No guarantor powers for both Turkey and Greece,
10) A constitution that protects the rights of all individuals,
11) Public service and all bodies to comprise TC and GC input,
12) All settlers returning to Turkey with sufficient compensation, except for those that married a Cypriot or have children born on the island.

That is just of the top of my head. I beleive the above is achievable. And the added benefit would be that the whole region will be much more secure and stable and Turkey will become an EU member.


Shahmaran, are you going to reply to this idiot or shall I tell him how stupid he sounds?
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:59 pm

Knock yourself out Eric Dayi, just remind him that he posted this not long ago:

"Peace must be a horrible and offensive word in Turkish culture."

and this shorty after:

"And I do not make sweeping statements about other cultures."


Also the fact that he doesn't JUST want peace, he has turned the whole concept into an hegemonic strategy which we rightly refuse, only to turn around and claim that we simply reject "peace" because we are Turkish.

Well this is what i meant by the meaning of peace, everybody wants it including us the "warmongering Turks", its just that we all want it in a different way.

Good luck ;)
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Postby RebelWithoutAPause » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:49 pm

Shahmaran i think you are getting PEACE mixed up with PIECE.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:03 pm

RebelWithoutAPause wrote:Shahmaran i think you are getting PEACE mixed up with PIECE.


He is not the only one: http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16930
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Postby RebelWithoutAPause » Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:09 pm

hahaha...

Another dunce moment for Zan

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Postby shahmaran » Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:09 pm

Sure, GC knows it all better, keep it up and you might just end up piece-less ;)
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Re: Two First ladies met

Postby Brittania » Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:10 pm

halil wrote:
Mrs Talat presented flowers to Mrs Christofias as a symbolic gift of friendship and peace.

Mrs Christofias responded by giving a Lefkara Lace to Mrs Talat.
At the end of the visit, Mrs Christofias told reporters that she was very pleased to host Mrs Talat at her home.



Thanks for telling us what the flowers symbolise grandpa Duh! :roll:

Does the lace the asian lady received represent how watertight turkish agreements are? :lol:
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Postby RebelWithoutAPause » Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:11 pm

Sure, GC knows it all better, keep it up and you might just end up piece-less


Are you gonna send your trillion dollar army to just about defeat a Cypriot militia again??? LOL

Great threat Shah...wouldve sounded better if 'piece-less' was a word.
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:34 pm

RebelWithoutAPause wrote:
Sure, GC knows it all better, keep it up and you might just end up piece-less


Are you gonna send your trillion dollar army to just about defeat a Cypriot militia again??? LOL

Great threat Shah...wouldve sounded better if 'piece-less' was a word.


The point it makes is well clear and truly understood (even by you) and that's what counts.

"Cypriot militia" ?

You mean the EOKA dogs and your faithful Greek army coupled with a handful of racist GC pigs?

I doubt they will ever find the balls to try anything ever again, because we keep their balls on a silver plate in a museum around Lefkoşa just to remind everyone ;)

Plus we have "de-pieced" you long ago and brought and end to the oppression and violence, now we talk, and you like a an obedient whore have to sit on a table with us as you are doing and cut a deal or cut the island, up to you, personally it makes no difference for me, as long as this shit is over.

You have tried to pretend that we don't exist long enough and come to realise that it is not going to work. Finally the penny drops! Well done!

Have a nice day loser I'm off to enjoy the sunshine ;)
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