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A wind of change, or stuck in the doldrums?

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Talat election - beginning of a solution?

Poll ended at Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:47 pm

Yes
7
37%
No
7
37%
Don't know
5
26%
 
Total votes : 19

Postby Kifeas » Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:04 pm

brother wrote:Come on kifeas, you ncan see what is being said, if there was no patriotism, then there would have been no need for ENOSIS/TAKSIM hence our island would not have had a war and we would be living in peace.


Brother,
The Meaning of the world patriotism has nothing to do with nationalism. The two meanings are not equal, at least as far as classic Greek literature and thought is concerned. I know in the rest of western literature the terms nationalism and patriotism are often used in a parallel or an equivalent fashion. The references to ENOSIS/TAKSIM that you make above are clearly acts attributed more to nationalism instead of Patriotism.

Patriotism doesn’t exclude universalism or internationalism. In the case of Cyprus it doesn’t exclude any of all the Cypriots (including the TCs.) It is not divisive between the two communities but rather a unifying term, provided we all accept Cyprus as our true homeland and not the motherlands.

A good definition of what patriotism means, is found on this link:

http://www.venusproject.com/ecs/definition_patriotism.html
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Postby brother » Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:33 pm

Dear Kifeas,

you know what i was trying to say but instead of maybe agree to it or otherwise you chose to split hairs about the meaning of words, i thank you for your dedication in bringing myself and others up to par with EXACT meanings of words via the dictionary you like to quote but i left my grammer school days behind a long time ago, would it be a terrible thing if you just stuck to the topic rather than try to correct me.

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