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Talat election - beginning of a solution?

Poll ended at Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:47 pm

Yes
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37%
No
7
37%
Don't know
5
26%
 
Total votes : 19

Postby Kifeas » Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:28 am

babaniot wrote:The above are a monument of Cypriot type stupidity, in my eyes. Kifeas says in effect that this was the way to trick the overseas bosses into not throwing the ton of bricks on Cyprus. He is saying that by pretending we like the Plan we survived the avalanche! In his eyes, there is no way one may like the plan unless he has overseas bosses. Of course he came second. He was beaten by Papadopoulos who claimed that we all got UNOPS money to support the plan. This is plain ridiculous and makes mockery of any effort to talk with such people.


Babanino,

Do you know what every one does when the house is on fire? Everyone takes his bucket and run to the nearest spring to fetch water.
Do you know what happens to the one who instead of helping out, stands on the side with crossed hands and curses the owners of the house for the accident?

Do you know what every sailor and the captain do when the ship enters into rough seas?
Every one runs to his post, lower the sails, throw out the flooding water, manage the steers and try to navigate the ship into safe waters.
Do you know what happens to the one who instead of helping out, stands on the bridge cursing the captain for ever sailing out and calls for everyone to commit a mutiny?

You are a demoralised soldier babanino. And soldiers like you are never allowed to stay in the battle because they destroy the moral of the rest. You will be lucky if they allow you to return home. Usually this is not the case!
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:47 am

Saint Jimmy, as you can see, he does not call names, he just makes typing errors! As I said before, I am more than glad to offer him the opportunity to call me names. It is very therapeutic, it appears and this is good for my morale too, since I am in a position to help people.


"You are a demoralised soldier babanino. And soldiers like you are never allowed to stay in the battle because they destroy the moral of the rest. You will be lucky if they allow you to return home. Usually this is not the case! "

You have made two mistakes. Firstly, I am not a soldier and secondly I am not demoralised. You also failed to mention, in your psychotic scenario, that the demoralised soldiers are shot on the spot, but of course this is what you meant. Thus, I am ready to become the martyr for all the nenekides, who of course are all demoralised soldiers and shouldn't be allowed to walk among the living and contaminate those that carry the morality flag to new hights and successes.
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:11 am

babaniot wrote:Saint Jimmy, as you can see, he does not call names, he just makes typing errors! As I said before, I am more than glad to offer him the opportunity to call me names. It is very therapeutic, it appears and this is good for my morale too, since I am in a position to help people.


bANNANiot,

The clown doesn’t worry when people laugh at him. To the contrary he dresses and paints his face in such a way so that people laugh at him more easily. It is his job after all! You’ve chosen alone and by your self a clownish name in order to appear in this forum, that clearly reflects how you feel about your self, and now you complain that others make fun on your name and your acts. :shock:

bananiot wrote:You have made two mistakes. Firstly, I am not a soldier and secondly I am not demoralised.


Then what are you? Nero who set Rome on fire in order to write poetry?
Perhaps a soldier of the enemy? The oversees enemy? Maybe an officer of the enemy? :?


bazaniot wrote:You also failed to mention, in your psychotic scenario, that the demoralised soldiers are shot on the spot, but of course this is what you meant.


I respect you right to express your opinion freely as long as you do not spread lies, something you unfortunately do some times, but you have to know that when the house is on fire not everybody will so easily respect such a right.
I have only given you an advice so that you act more carefully in the future. I used some figurative examples to make you understand in a plain language what I meant. You should instead be thankful for the advice, in my opinion. :wink:

bananiot wrote:Thus, I am ready to become the martyr for all the nenekides, who of course are all demoralised soldiers and shouldn't be allowed to walk among the living and contaminate those that carry the morality flag to new hights and successes.


We are only trying to sustain the attacks of your oversees bosses and their underground backstabbings. We need all the energy to concentrate in defending our rights and positions and not to carry the morality flag to new heights and successes. The last thing we need is to continue dealing with your capricious behaviour. :x
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:48 am

Patriotism is the last resort of all scoundrels (Samuel Johnson)
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:03 pm

Patriotism = Love of and devotion to one's country.


http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=patriotism
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:07 pm

Devoted to all Bananiots and all Ephialtes.

Thermopylae
Honor to those who in their lives
have defined and guard their Thermopylae.
Never stirring from duty;
just and upright in all their deeds,
yet with pity and compassion too;
generous when they are rich, and when
they are poor, again a little generous,
again helping as much as they can;
always speaking the truth,
yet without hatred for those who lie.

And more honor is due to them
when they foresee (and many do foresee)
that Ephialtes will finally appear,
and that the Medes in the end will go through.

Constantine P. Cavafy (1903)
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Postby cannedmoose » Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:43 pm

Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. ~George Jean Nathan

Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind. ~Albert Einstein, The World As I See It, 1934

You'll never have a quiet world till you knock the patriotism out of the human race. ~George Bernard Shaw

I am not an Athenian or a Greek, I am a citizen of the world. ~Socrates

Patriotism, the virtue of the vicious. ~Oscar Wilde

I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth, and I am a citizen of the world. ~Eugene V. Debs

Can anything be stupider than that a man has the right to kill me because he lives on the other side of a river and his ruler has a quarrel with mine, though I have not quarrelled with him? ~Blaise Pascal, quoted by Tolstoy in Bethink Yourselves

It is lamentable, that to be a good patriot one must become the enemy of the rest of mankind. ~Voltaire, Philosophical Dictionary

It is not for him to pride himself who loveth his own country, but rather for him who loveth the whole world. The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens. ~Baha'u'llah

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If it's good enough for Socrates and Voltaire, it's good enough for me... whatever happened to us all being human beings? We all have common ancestors, so let's honour them by actually treating each other like family. That goes for nationalists and patriots of any extraction.
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:51 pm

You are funny cannedmoosse!

You didn't like my definition for patriotism but at the same time you have an almost identical definition as your signature. :wink:
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Postby brother » Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:01 pm

Come on kifeas, you ncan see what is being said, if there was no patriotism, then there would have been no need for ENOSIS/TAKSIM hence our island would not have had a war and we would be living in peace.

Very simplistic but the truth imo.
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Postby cannedmoose » Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:18 pm

Kifeas wrote:You are funny cannedmoosse!

You didn't like my definition for patriotism but at the same time you have an almost identical definition as your signature. :wink:


I try my best to be hypocritical koumbaros... :wink:

P.S. I rather like Socrates quotation come to think of it, so I've changed to suit.
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