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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Talat election - beginning of a solution?

Poll ended at Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:47 pm

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Total votes : 19

Postby Saint Jimmy » Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:31 pm

I'm not sure how interesting you'll find it, but my info tells me that the TPap-AKEL dependency is the other way around... Word is that the Pres has got Christofias by the balls, and that's why he gets away with his act...
I'm not allowed to disclose what that is, sorry (actually, I don't know what it is, but it sounds more credible this way... Anyway, my source is as reliable as my sources get)
cannedmoose wrote:(and I don't mean Christofias :evil: )

I think Kassoulides is next in line for President...
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Postby cannedmoose » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:30 pm

Saint Jimmy wrote:I'm not sure how interesting you'll find it, but my info tells me that the TPap-AKEL dependency is the other way around... Word is that the Pres has got Christofias by the balls, and that's why he gets away with his act...
I'm not allowed to disclose what that is, sorry (actually, I don't know what it is, but it sounds more credible this way... Anyway, my source is as reliable as my sources get)
cannedmoose wrote:(and I don't mean Christofias :evil: )

I think Kassoulides is next in line for President...


Sounds intriguing St. James... perhaps Christofias has some large skeletons in his closet that TPap knows about... :wink:
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:37 pm

This is no great secret boys! Guess who bailed out the AKEL mouthpiece "Haravgi" prior to the Presidential elections. And what about Katsourides's New Marathon company? By the way, katsourides is also the chief of "Haravgi". If one thinks that the newspaper is Papadopoulos's mouthpiece he can be excused. Do you underestimate the share of government? AKEL can appoint its fair share, from ministers to messangers, so the chips are down for the 2008 elections. Who talked about a solution?
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Postby Kifeas » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:59 pm

bananio wrote:This is no great secret boys! Guess who bailed out the AKEL mouthpiece "Haravgi" prior to the Presidential elections. And what about Katsourides's New Marathon company? By the way, katsourides is also the chief of "Haravgi". If one thinks that the newspaper is Papadopoulos's mouthpiece he can be excused. Do you underestimate the share of government? AKEL can appoint its fair share, from ministers to messangers, so the chips are down for the 2008 elections. Who talked about a solution?


Of course Bananidot! You are absolutely correct!!! And because the next election is in year 2008, Mr. Athanasakis (leader of Dysi) and Mr PapasPedros and Mr. Methisokleous of Edy cannot wait that long and the only way left to them is to force to the People of Cyprus the Anal plan in order to grasp the power of the federal government and become co-presidents of the cabinet. In such a case, your aspiration to become a citizen of a banana republic, will eventually become a reality.
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Postby cannedmoose » Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:06 pm

Saint Jimmy wrote:I think Kassoulides is next in line for President...


You're predicting a DHSY victory then Jimmy? Or did you mean Nicos Katsourides?
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Postby Saint Jimmy » Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:30 pm

Yeah, I meant ex-Giannakis-now-turned-Ioannis Kassoulides.
Well, I don't see how T-Pap can do it again (I hope my friends who agree with him excuse me, but that's my opinion) and win again in 2008.
Anastasiades is taking it one step at a time towards collaborating with AKEL in the next election (if there is one as we know it today) and Kassoulides is the only guy (for now...) who has any chance of being mutually acceptable (or almost). T-Pap is grabbing their ass (AKEL's, that is) gradually, and if they keep backing him they are going to start losing people. I don't think Christofias is going to allow that.
Talking of asses, I might just be talking out of my ass; the parliamentary elections will show whether I'm right or not.

But that's a long way ahead, obviously everything is going to change a dozen times till then.

P.S.: oh, yeah, and I tend to agree with Bananiot on the conspiracy theory. As ever, no evidence, though; call it payback for those taking the liberty to call people traitors without a shred of proof.

P.S.2: Kifeas, man, you were doing great so far... It seems the last few days' trend towards name-calling has dragged you down, too. I hope you, at least, manage to bounce back. I'm sorry if that sounds 'wise-guy'ish, that was not my intention. I mean what I wrote.
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:04 pm

Let us not speculate any more. Let us remember what AKEL said on the evening of April 14th 2004 after the party conference that discussed AKEL's position on the A plan. Christofias said the following:

1. AKEL does not agree with the President regarding the A plan and disagrees with his claim that the plan does not only eliminate the de facto partition but legalises and enhances the partition of the island.

2. The A plan re unites Cyprus. There is one sovereignty, one internationally accepted country and one nationality.

3. The occupation of Cyprus is ended and there is a gradual withdrawal of more than 39 000 turkish soldiers.

4. Gradually 85 000 to 90 000 refugees return under Greek Cypriot administration and the right to return under Turkish Cypriot administration is safeguarded.

5. Gradually the human rights and basic liberties are restored.

6. Effective mechanisms to deal with stalemates are included.

7. The transition period is limited to 45 days only.

8. The influx of settlers is restricted.

9. There will be one Central Bank and one currency, the Cyprus pound.

10. There is a long term possibility for real reunification and peaceful coexistence between Greek and Turkish Cypriots.

I Bananiot and my overseas bosses, agree totally with the above. Obviously, at the time, Christofias had overseas bosses too. Perhaps he still has a few but then Kifeas cannot throw mad at the second in command, he prefers easy targets.
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Postby Kifeas » Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:32 pm

Jimmy wrote:P.S.2: Kifeas, man, you were doing great so far... It seems the last few days' trend towards name-calling has dragged you down, too. I hope you, at least, manage to bounce back. I'm sorry if that sounds 'wise-guy'ish, that was not my intention. I mean what I wrote.


Jimmy, who have I called names? Are you sure is not a typing error? :wink:
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Postby Saint Jimmy » Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:34 pm

Kifeas wrote:Jimmy, who have I called names? Are you sure is not a typing error? :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
ΟΚ man, technically there was no name-calling.
But you know what I mean.
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Postby Kifeas » Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:08 pm

Bananiot wrote:I Bananiot and my overseas bosses, agree totally with the above. Obviously, at the time, Christofias had overseas bosses too. Perhaps he still has a few but then Kifeas cannot throw mad at the second in command, he prefers easy targets.


Yes perspective Citizen of the banana republic that you want to make of us. Christofias listed all the above wishful "facts" but at the same time he decided to say no to the Ananl plan. What could one expect from a political party that is truly concerned for the future of it's people to say, when at the same the oversees “bosses” were threatening us in the most despicable way not to reject their plan. After all, it is the same people that used all kinds of lies and misrepresentations in order to justify their onslaught on the Iraqi people, a year ago. No one in their right sense could trust throwing their plan back in their face (the most appropriate thing to have done,) without finding some nice words to describe it. We all know how devious and ruthless people they can be and they can find a million ways to attack a small country if it stands in their way so “provocatively.” It is the same people who threaten us that a ton of brigs will fell on our heads, etc, etc. God bless your Bosses.

Yeah Bananiot!! You know everything!

You didn’t say a word about the property “arrangements” and the “compensation” schemes of your loving plan. Ask me, who happens to have property in the north that is valued more than 1 ½ million pounds and I will explain to you all about it. Do you think you are more clever than me or know how to calculate better than me on how good these provisions were and whether or not I would have gotten a single penny or a single square meter of my property?

Why you do not change your name into Ananiot? I think it will suit you better.
Do you have property in the south? Would you like to exchange it with mine in the north?
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