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Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:09 pm

Eric dayi wrote:Buy a projector and a 150 inch screen, let others buy LCD/Plasma crap.

Projectors are great but you still need a quality TV to receive a good signal to feed the projector.
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Postby Crivens » Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:24 pm

Why throw away a perfectly good TV BTW?
Not enough room. I have loads of space in the main living area, but I can't see a 36" widescreen CRT fitting in the bedroom nicely. It will fit, just might look a bit daft. I mean half of my window would disappear for starters.

My projector is a Sony VPL-HS50 (1280x720). Had it a couple of years and currently has a HDMI to a HDPC for 720p, along with a Tvix media streamer with a DVI-HDMI cable (must get a splitter one of these days). Laying off getting a PS3 until the next SKU is out, and may grab one of thoes HD-DVD players from Amazon (got my girlfriend one for £50GBP the other day, but I think they have gone up now). May be a dead format, but still has a nice back catalogue that should be quite cheap soon, and is a decent DVD upscaler. Considering getting a 1080p Sony projector too now. Would be nice.

BTW, I thought the PX31 was a 1024 x 768 (XGA) native panel?

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Postby Crivens » Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:28 pm

Projectors are great but you still need a quality TV to receive a good signal to feed the projector.
What makes you say that? Just make sure your projector inputs match the box (satalite or cable) outputs (or get a converter) and you don't need a TV at all. A friend of mine has Sky HD hooked directly upto his projector in the UK with no TV inbetween with no worries for example.

Unless you are talking about TVs with built in tuners. But they are either Freeview (prefer Sky by miles) which you can get a cheap set top box for (that will plug directly into projector) or aerial, which is pretty dead in the UK (will be deffo soon), and not even worth mentioning in Cyprus, unless you speak Greek (and can stand really bad acting like daytime US shows).

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Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:34 pm

Crivens wrote:
Projectors are great but you still need a quality TV to receive a good signal to feed the projector.
What makes you say that? Just make sure your projector inputs match the box (satalite or cable) outputs (or get a converter) and you don't need a TV at all. A friend of mine has Sky HD hooked directly upto his projector in the UK with no TV inbetween with no worries for example.

Unless you are talking about TVs with built in tuners. But they are either Freeview (prefer Sky by miles) which you can get a cheap set top box for (that will plug directly into projector) or aerial, which is pretty dead in the UK (will be deffo soon), and not even worth mentioning in Cyprus, unless you speak Greek (and can stand really bad acting like daytime US shows).

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Come to think of it, MiVision includes all the Cypriot TV channels too!
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Postby Crivens » Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:53 pm

Yep. I just don't have mine plugged into the projector because of a lack of anything to watch really. Well, nothing good enough for a machine that costs a couple of hundred quid at least to replace a bulb that lasts only a couple of thousand hours tops.

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Postby Eric dayi » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:36 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:Buy a projector and a 150 inch screen, let others buy LCD/Plasma crap.

Projectors are great but you still need a quality TV to receive a good signal to feed the projector.


TV to feed the projector? :shock: :?

You don't need a TV to feed the projector, just a receiver of some sort . The signal is near enough perfect here in the UK even with an indoor antenna. The BBC has even started to broadcast in HD through terrestrial channels with more to follow sometime this year.

You can connect a freeview box or a video player/recorder directly without the need for a TV.


You can even connect a PC/Laptop with a TV receiver onto projectors that have the relevant input.

And can you imagine that all that even works without steam power? :wink:
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Postby Eric dayi » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:43 pm

Crivens wrote:
Why throw away a perfectly good TV BTW?
Not enough room. I have loads of space in the main living area, but I can't see a 36" widescreen CRT fitting in the bedroom nicely. It will fit, just might look a bit daft. I mean half of my window would disappear for starters.

My projector is a Sony VPL-HS50 (1280x720). Had it a couple of years and currently has a HDMI to a HDPC for 720p, along with a Tvix media streamer with a DVI-HDMI cable (must get a splitter one of these days). Laying off getting a PS3 until the next SKU is out, and may grab one of thoes HD-DVD players from Amazon (got my girlfriend one for £50GBP the other day, but I think they have gone up now). May be a dead format, but still has a nice back catalogue that should be quite cheap soon, and is a decent DVD upscaler. Considering getting a 1080p Sony projector too now. Would be nice.

BTW, I thought the PX31 was a 1024 x 768 (XGA) native panel?

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I've run mine at top resolution with no probs, maybe they made two with different res, have no idea.

BTW, the HD side also claims to 1080p, 720 but have not yet tried it. I refuse to pay Sky or Virgin 30-40 quit a month to watch repeat of crap over and over again when I can watch crap for nowt on freeview.
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Postby DT. » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:48 pm

Zan, Gr, Erica and Boomers having a nice chat about TV's?

GET BACK TO WORK YOU IDIOTS!!!!

What the hell happened to this place?
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Postby Eric dayi » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:51 pm

Crivens wrote:Yep. I just don't have mine plugged into the projector because of a lack of anything to watch really. Well, nothing good enough for a machine that costs a couple of hundred quid at least to replace a bulb that lasts only a couple of thousand hours tops.

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Last I checked the bulb for mine costs around 525 quid. The one in my projector has about 1200 hrs to go and when it does I shall strip the projector to pieces and use some of the parts to finish of the projector I am making. At least the bulbs I use for the home-made projector are selling for not more then 20-30 quid and give the same results, well maybe not with the curtains open but I don't use the projector day time anyway.
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Postby Crivens » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:55 pm

I've run mine at top resolution with no probs, maybe they made two with different res, have no idea
This physical LCD panel should be XGA (1024x768). But you can chuck higher resolutions into it and it will downscale it. I've bunged a 1080p signal through mine on HDMI and it works, but there is nothing I will be able to do to to actually get 1080 lines on the image. Will only do 720 (WXGA - 1280x720). Is like putting my 2mp camera images on my 1600x1200 monitor or 1920x1200 laptop. Looks perfect and will show 100% all pixels (2mp is normally 1600x1200), but then put on my other monitor (1024x768 I believe), and it will look pretty much the same, but will be losing some pixels. Looking closer and you can see it isn't as sharp.

Saying that, 1080p (1920x1080) Sony projectors are now getting affordable. Soon will be about what I spent on mine (about £1500GBP). Most tempting... Projector and 36" CRT in the bedroom perhaps? :)

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