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[Kikapu]

"dancing street monkey"? That's kick-a-poo isn't it? Is RWP jealous and wants to join him?

Ah, look who's back. It's the Bi-Sexual, Wife Beater/Batterer Eric Dayi.!!!

Are you going to be around for a while Eric Dayi, so that I can explain to you why you are a Bi-Sexual and a Wife Batterer or are you going to disappear like last time for couple of months hoping that I will forget about you.!!

I also wanted to introduce you to a Arizona Desert Creature that has your qualities. In fact, if you were to transform from being a Sub Human that you are today to a Desert Creature tomorrow, that's what you would become.............almost anyway.!!

So, let me know if you are going to be around for a while. I would not want you to miss this presentation on
"This is your Life".!!!

[Get Real!]

You think you 2 can stop sucking each others cocks for a sec? Its grossing me out.

Go easy dude... it's too early in the morning for that!

[Viewpoint]

VP, Cyprus, like every other Greek territory and island, has been fighting to become part of a Greek state since the Greek revolution of 1821. Some territories where liberated soon after the revolution, and some others many decades later, some of them as late as the 1940s.

Are you telling me that it was illegal for Cypriots, and for Greeks in general, to fight against their rulers for freedom just because Turks had transferred parts of their population on our territories? Are you telling me that it was legal for Cyprus to be part of the Ottoman and British empires against the will of the Cypriots, but it was illegal to be part of the Greek state which is what the great majority of Cypriots themselves wanted??

And if Cyprus became part of the Greek state then which of your human rights would be violated? Nobody would physically harm you, nobody would send you to jail, nobody would take your land.

The fact is that after you oppressed us for centuries, then in the 1950s you collaborated with the British, and you started a conflict against us, in order to continue to deprive us from our freedom and self determination.


Today we are not talking about enosis or anything like that. We made that compromise in 1959. But we are not going to compromise our human rights, democracy and our lands, so you can have even more gains on our loss. Your minority should accept that they had enough gains on our loss already, and that there is no chance to achieve peace if you insist for further gains of land and power on our loss.

You claim you gave up the dream of enosis in 1959, then what was 1974 and the underhand tactics of 1963 onwards which deprived us of our human rights, why were you not fighting for my human rights back then please forgive me for not believing you when you are going around peddling human rights for all now that you have lost yours due to a situation you admit you contributed to.

Democracy must as you say take into account the needs of all the population, this was the biggest mistake of the GCs and falls short of the posts you have supplied in this thread yourself you tried to side track us and turn Cyprus into Greece, we are also indigenous to Cyprus and we will never give up our right to live here as equals, we tried this in 1960 but you had other plans for our future, just as you hate and detest the idea of being united to Turkey we feel the same about Greece, this I am sure you can understand. Our struggle was in direct retaliation of your dream to gift Cyprus to Greece with or without its TC population, your claiming that our rights woudl have been protected makes me laugh as there is enough evidence eg Crete to prove what the likely outcome of the TCs woudl have been but of course you will never understand this as you are not a TC and your life would not have been in the balance.

VP, I ask you again: No Greek territory or island should have been liberated because Turkish minorities where formed there? It is fine for Cyprus to be part of the Ottoman or British empires but not fine to be part of the Greek state which was the democratic wish of the Cypriot people?

Answer these questions please.

You also talk about what happened to some Turks in other Greek islands. Why don't you say about what happens of the Greeks of Asia Minor as well?

Beyond this, yes, I understand your concerns. You having concerns though doesn't mean that us wanting to be finally be liberated and unite with the free Greek state, like it happened to many other Greek territories and islands, was not our right.

In the 50s we fought against the colonialists, and you are the ones who started the conflict against us. We didn't ask for any human rights violations against you, but your taksim (partition) demand involved the killing and ethnic cleansing of 100s of thousands of Greek Cypriots.

So don't try to blame the inter-communal conflicts only on GCs when in fact you are the ones who started it and you have an equal share of responsibility for it.

Had you not insisted on partition and on unfair gains against us, then we could have easily negotiate a solution where Cyprus would not unite with Greece, but at least it would be a normal democratic country like all the rest. The same holds true today, but now, just like then, you continue to insist on gains on our loss and the effective partition of Cyprus into "Greek" and "Turkish" as well as the violations of our human rights. We on the other hand do not ask for union with Greece, neither we want any gains on the loss of your human rights.

Why do you still have problems accepting that the enosis dream was the biggest mistake in Cyprus history, it was the catalyst for division and the rest are excuses. You tried to take away our basic human right to live in our own country Cyprus, we did not want to be part of Greece, big mistake, it changed the landscape forever and now you are faced with a 37% 63% split, 40.000 troops and the settlers...legal or illegal it doesnt change the fact that now these obstacles are in your way therefore stopping you from achieving the GC state which spreads all over Cyprus.

To answer your question "liberating" islands off Greece was an expansionist ideology and did not take into the minorities that were crushed into non existence or Greekified, its these examples that fuel our need never to submit to your ideology of turning Cyprus into Greece.

We have concerns and they cannot be ignored...its when you acknowledge them and address them is when you find a solution, until that time we are prepared to wait if that time never arrives then life goes on pretty much as it does today.

[Get Real!]

Elvis was a hero to most - but he never meant sh*t to me

Anybody that says the above about Elvis is not worth the time of day. He meant a hell of a lot to a lot of people around the world.

The king is dead… …but his relevance to the CyProb will live on forever!

[zan]

Now!! Do you want to challenge what I am saying or do you just spurt out pointless crap as a norm....

If you do then you are accepting that we are not owners of our own country

lets just put it this way Zan, if you need to make a quote like the one above then you don't have Cyprus hard coded in your dna like some of us do.

Zanny definitely has the Cyprus donkey’s hard-headedness! Doesn't that count?

You can count on that....Unlike the donkey though...You will never throw a saddle on me...No matter how perverted your thoughts are!!!

[zan]

You think you 2 can stop sucking each others cocks for a sec? Its grossing me out.

Go easy dude... it's too early in the morning for that!

The morning glory must be painful for him.....

[zan]

Anybody that says the above about Elvis is not worth the time of day. He meant a hell of a lot to a lot of people around the world.

Elvis was just the acceptable white face to exploit black music of that time. Besides, your only giving VP and Shah an excuse to side-step my questions.

Try this guy..He lives on sound bites and confused metaphors...He will be telling us that Jesus was black next

[humanist]

well you said a lot of other hysteria :):) no I have always maintained that all Cypriots are equal and have equal rights to their homes and land, but you argue that some of you have evry right to deny others te same am I wrong???

[Viewpoint]

well you said a lot of other hysteria :):) no I have always maintained that all Cypriots are equal and have equal rights to their homes and land, but you argue that some of you have evry right to deny others te same am I wrong???

humanist the majority of TCs support GCs getting their homes where possible back or compensation, its the rest of the shit we cant work out.

[zan]

well you said a lot of other hysteria :):) no I have always maintained that all Cypriots are equal and have equal rights to their homes and land, but you argue that some of you have evry right to deny others te same am I wrong???

I don't deny anyone anything...The history of Cyprus does and the Cyprob does...I am just being mature about a way forward and not relying on political bent....South Africa could have been given to the Blacks..Everone realised that that would not be the best way forward.....There are still millions upon millions living in townships in abject poverty.......They have been given a way to work their way out and not the turmoil that will see the country in flames. Reconciliation is not just about telling each other that you are sorry and then running wild with good intentions that are dangerous and irresponsible. It is about sharing the blame, the power and the responsibility to do the right thing for the time in which you live. You have to wake up to reality as it stands.