shahmaran wrote:It was only a comparison, Erdogan might be all for democracy, like you, but only because it suits his twisted views of the world, kind of like yours.
What would you do if you were on our side and that democracy meant you becoming just another foreigner in your own country? Not mentioning the Enosis attempt being also another "democratic right" according to you.
And how exactly democracy means that you became a foreigner? Does this means that in every democratic country the minorities in that country are foreigners? Does this mean that Kafenes who is an Armenian Cypriot is a foreigner in Cyprus because he accepts democracy like everybody else?
On the
contrary accepting democracy makes you an integral part of the Cypriot people, and not something separate and foreign.
Ataturk religion, whatever it means to you i don't know, is anything but the lack of freedom in various beliefs, everyone is free to believe and practice what they like, what they are not free to do is bring these belief into the government! No one can tell me what to do simply because i happen to live in a Muslim country and i have to respect their belief by limiting my freedom, that's utter crap and that's what democracy means in Turkey at the moment.
In Turkey everyone is free to believe and practice what they like?? Thats why they have the article 301? Thats why their jails are full with political prisoners, Kurds, and anybody else that goes against what the Atuturk religion allows?
Great comparison Shah, Piratis like Erdogan thinks that it can be used to get what they want, tomorrow the majority may vote to kill every first male child born Piratis will you back this or say no its wrong we should fight to stop it? democracy can also be wrong.
What you say proves that you have no clue about what democracy means.
Read this:
http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/w ... hatdm2.htmSome quotes:
In short, democracy is the institutionalization of freedom. For this reason, it is possible to identify the time-tested fundamentals of constitutional government, human rights, and equality before the law that any society must possess to be properly called democratic.
All democracies are systems in which citizens freely make political decisions by majority rule. But rule by the majority is not necessarily democratic: No one, for example, would call a system fair or just that permitted 51 percent of the population to oppress the remaining 49 percent in the name of the majority. In a democratic society, majority rule must be coupled with guarantees of individual human rights that, in turn, serve to protect the rights of minorities--whether ethnic, religious, or political, or simply the losers in the debate over a piece of controversial legislation. The rights of minorities do not depend upon the goodwill of the majority and cannot be eliminated by majority vote. The rights of minorities are protected because democratic laws and institutions protect the rights of all citizens.
These elements define the fundamental elements of all modern democracies, no matter how varied in history, culture, and economy. Despite their enormous differences as nations and societies, the essential elements of constitutional government--majority rule coupled with individual and minority rights, and the rule of law--can be found in Canada and Costa Rica, France and Botswana, Japan and India.
