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Postby halil » Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:37 pm

World is laughing ...... to close the gate as simple as ...... :!: :!: :!: :idea: :idea: :idea: ???????

don't you get confuse too ???????

All going smoothly as crowds flock to Ledra Street
By Jean Christou

LEDRA Street was teeming with people yesterday as the public on both sides took advantage of the weekend to satisfy their curiosity after Thursday’s big opening of the crossing point.

According to reports, by noon 820 Greek Cypriots had crossed over to the north, along with over 700 non Cypriots. From the Turkish Cypriot side, more than 550 had crossed.

During a visit yesterday morning, Police Chief Iacovos Papcostas said there had not been any problem with the movement of so many people. “Everything is going smoothly,” he said, adding that increased movement was also expected today.

The Ledra crossing opened on Thursday but the event was marred 12 hours later when it was closed for two hours by the Greek Cypriot side after Turkish Cypriot police entered the buffer zone area of the crossing.
Details of what actually happened and who gave instructions to close the crossing were still sketchy yesterday.

Initially, reports said that President Demetris Christofias had ordered the closure, but the President was on a plane to London when it happened.

Reports from London said he was informed of the closure when he landed in the UK, but that would have been well after 10pm Cyprus time, and the crossing was closed some time between 8.30pm and 9pm.

On Friday, it emerged that House President and DIKO leader Marios Karoyan had ordered the closure. CİVİLİAN COUP
As House President, Karoyan becomes Acting President of the Republic in Christofias’ absence. The order was executed by the Justice Minister and the police. Civilian Coup.
Turkish press speculated that Karoyan had ordered the closure without the permission of the President, and that was why Christofias had cut short his visit to the UK to return to Cyprus on Friday.

Government Spokesman Stefanos Stefanou said yesterday: “I know about the rumours and they are nonsense.”

Stefanou said Karoyan was just following the orders of the President, and that the two men had been in communication on the issue.

“Before he departed, President Christofias gave instructions that it was the position of the government – and made very clear to the UN and the other side – that any violation of the agreement for the opening of the crossing would result in closure,” Stefanou told the Sunday Mail.

Asked why the President felt the need to return if everything was being handled according to his instructions, Stefanou said: “He came back to safeguard the implementation of the agreement. It is the will of the government that Ledra be open and to use this positive step to move forwards. The closure of Ledra would be a negative development. We didn’t ask for excuses, we asked for the implementation of the agreement. The UN is fully responsible for the buffer zone and they have to act in this spirit. If there is a violation there will be a lack of trust.”

According to the agreement to open Ledra Street, neither Greek Cypriot nor Turkish Cypriot police are to enter the 80-metre stretch linking the two ends of the crossing point.

However on, the opening day, the Turkish Cypriot police violated the agreement three times. The first was prior to the opening, when eight officers stationed themselves on the corner of Kykkos Street, which bisects Ledra half way to the Turkish Cypriot checkpoint.

The second violation happened just after the opening ceremony when two Turkish Cypriot police officers escorted the Turkish Cypriot mayor all the way up to the Greek Cypriot police line when he was crossing for a coffee with Nicosia Mayor Eleni Mavrou.

The third violation in the evening was the one that led to the closure, for which the Turkish Cypriot side blamed the Greek Cypriots. A statement from the Turkish Cypriot Press and Information Office called it a surprise, and a provocation.

“The Lokmac? gateway was closed at around 8.30pm with the allegation that the buffer zone had been infringed by Turkish police, only to reopen again at 11pm through UN initiatives and intense Turkish diplomacy,” the statement said.

“It was later discovered that the short crisis which took place last night was a result of Greek Cypriot demonstrators carrying banners which infringed Turkish Cypriot controlled areas,” it added.

It said 20 Greek Cypriots crossed the Greek Cypriot barricade to the Turkish Cypriot line at 8.15pm carrying placards and shouting slogans. Turkish Cypriot police were authorised through the agreement with the UN to intervene in the area under such circumstances.

However, Turkish Cypriot police were actually stationed at the corner of Kykkos and Ledra Streets as early as 8pm. Having personally witnessed the scene, there were no protestors there at that time.

The Turkish Cypriot police had run a cordon from their checkpoint to the corner of Kykkos Street, where two UN soldiers were stationed on either side of Ledra Street. One Turkish Cypriot police officer was sauntering up and down no more than two feet away from the UN guards, one of whom was chatting to a civilian and the other watching the fireworks display, both oblivious to the violation.



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Too many questions has to be answered .... soon we can hear all of them.
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Postby boomerang » Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:37 pm

I never liked lokoumia...I like lokoumades...can't really get enough...and lately a little is too much considering...well you know...its an age thing... :lol:

Damn it the best things in life are starting to be a no go area :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:51 pm

boomerang wrote:I never liked lokoumia...I like lokoumades...can't really get enough...and lately a little is too much considering...well you know...its an age thing... :lol:

Damn it the best things in life are starting to be a no go area :lol:



Are you a policeman then. Remotely controlling the crossing and enjoying what you like best? :lol:

There will be much more Lokmades available soon so you better watch your figure and blood sugar levels. :wink:
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:59 pm

halil wrote:World is laughing ...... to close the gate as simple as ...... :!: :!: :!: :idea: :idea: :idea: ???????

don't you get confuse too ???????

All going smoothly as crowds flock to Ledra Street
By Jean Christou

LEDRA Street was teeming with people yesterday as the public on both sides took advantage of the weekend to satisfy their curiosity after Thursday’s big opening of the crossing point.

According to reports, by noon 820 Greek Cypriots had crossed over to the north, along with over 700 non Cypriots. From the Turkish Cypriot side, more than 550 had crossed.

During a visit yesterday morning, Police Chief Iacovos Papcostas said there had not been any problem with the movement of so many people. “Everything is going smoothly,” he said, adding that increased movement was also expected today.

The Ledra crossing opened on Thursday but the event was marred 12 hours later when it was closed for two hours by the Greek Cypriot side after Turkish Cypriot police entered the buffer zone area of the crossing.
Details of what actually happened and who gave instructions to close the crossing were still sketchy yesterday.

Initially, reports said that President Demetris Christofias had ordered the closure, but the President was on a plane to London when it happened.

Reports from London said he was informed of the closure when he landed in the UK, but that would have been well after 10pm Cyprus time, and the crossing was closed some time between 8.30pm and 9pm.

On Friday, it emerged that House President and DIKO leader Marios Karoyan had ordered the closure. CİVİLİAN COUP
As House President, Karoyan becomes Acting President of the Republic in Christofias’ absence. The order was executed by the Justice Minister and the police. Civilian Coup.
Turkish press speculated that Karoyan had ordered the closure without the permission of the President, and that was why Christofias had cut short his visit to the UK to return to Cyprus on Friday.

Government Spokesman Stefanos Stefanou said yesterday: “I know about the rumours and they are nonsense.”

Stefanou said Karoyan was just following the orders of the President, and that the two men had been in communication on the issue.

“Before he departed, President Christofias gave instructions that it was the position of the government – and made very clear to the UN and the other side – that any violation of the agreement for the opening of the crossing would result in closure,” Stefanou told the Sunday Mail.

Asked why the President felt the need to return if everything was being handled according to his instructions, Stefanou said: “He came back to safeguard the implementation of the agreement. It is the will of the government that Ledra be open and to use this positive step to move forwards. The closure of Ledra would be a negative development. We didn’t ask for excuses, we asked for the implementation of the agreement. The UN is fully responsible for the buffer zone and they have to act in this spirit. If there is a violation there will be a lack of trust.”

According to the agreement to open Ledra Street, neither Greek Cypriot nor Turkish Cypriot police are to enter the 80-metre stretch linking the two ends of the crossing point.

However on, the opening day, the Turkish Cypriot police violated the agreement three times. The first was prior to the opening, when eight officers stationed themselves on the corner of Kykkos Street, which bisects Ledra half way to the Turkish Cypriot checkpoint.

The second violation happened just after the opening ceremony when two Turkish Cypriot police officers escorted the Turkish Cypriot mayor all the way up to the Greek Cypriot police line when he was crossing for a coffee with Nicosia Mayor Eleni Mavrou.

The third violation in the evening was the one that led to the closure, for which the Turkish Cypriot side blamed the Greek Cypriots. A statement from the Turkish Cypriot Press and Information Office called it a surprise, and a provocation.

“The Lokmac? gateway was closed at around 8.30pm with the allegation that the buffer zone had been infringed by Turkish police, only to reopen again at 11pm through UN initiatives and intense Turkish diplomacy,” the statement said.

“It was later discovered that the short crisis which took place last night was a result of Greek Cypriot demonstrators carrying banners which infringed Turkish Cypriot controlled areas,” it added.

It said 20 Greek Cypriots crossed the Greek Cypriot barricade to the Turkish Cypriot line at 8.15pm carrying placards and shouting slogans. Turkish Cypriot police were authorised through the agreement with the UN to intervene in the area under such circumstances.

However, Turkish Cypriot police were actually stationed at the corner of Kykkos and Ledra Streets as early as 8pm. Having personally witnessed the scene, there were no protestors there at that time.

The Turkish Cypriot police had run a cordon from their checkpoint to the corner of Kykkos Street, where two UN soldiers were stationed on either side of Ledra Street. One Turkish Cypriot police officer was sauntering up and down no more than two feet away from the UN guards, one of whom was chatting to a civilian and the other watching the fireworks display, both oblivious to the violation.



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Too many questions has to be answered .... soon we can hear all of them.


The world does not care. There were 3 violations before the GCs TEMPORARILY closed the gates until the TCs complied with the agreement.

Why do the GC police not approach the TC post? Would you like them to walk up through the entire buffer zone? If it is such a small thing, perhaps they should. Maybe they should start directing traffic in the occupied areas as they are really the only legal law enforcement agency on the island.
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Postby boomerang » Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:09 pm

It must be true...it is in the cyprus mail :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:14 pm

boomerang wrote:It must be true...it is in the cyprus mail :lol:


Yes. The most truthful tabloid trash published in RoC. :lol:
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:43 pm

halil wrote: All going smoothly as crowds flock to Ledra Street

By Jean Christou

LEDRA Street was teeming with people yesterday as the public on both sides took advantage of the weekend to satisfy their curiosity after Thursday’s big opening of the crossing point.

According to reports, by noon 820 Greek Cypriots had crossed over to the north, along with over 700 non Cypriots. From the Turkish Cypriot side, more than 550 had crossed.

During a visit yesterday morning, Police Chief Iacovos Papcostas said there had not been any problem with the movement of so many people. “Everything is going smoothly,” he said, adding that increased movement was also expected today.

The Ledra crossing opened on Thursday but the event was marred 12 hours later when it was closed for two hours by the Greek Cypriot side after Turkish Cypriot police entered the buffer zone area of the crossing.
Details of what actually happened and who gave instructions to close the crossing were still sketchy yesterday.

Initially, reports said that President Demetris Christofias had ordered the closure, but the President was on a plane to London when it happened.

Reports from London said he was informed of the closure when he landed in the UK, but that would have been well after 10pm Cyprus time, and the crossing was closed some time between 8.30pm and 9pm.

On Friday, it emerged that House President and DIKO leader Marios Karoyan had ordered the closure.

As House President, Karoyan becomes Acting President of the Republic in Christofias’ absence. The order was executed by the Justice Minister and the police.

Turkish press speculated that Karoyan had ordered the closure without the permission of the President, and that was why Christofias had cut short his visit to the UK to return to Cyprus on Friday.

Government Spokesman Stefanos Stefanou said yesterday: “I know about the rumours and they are nonsense.”

Stefanou said Karoyan was just following the orders of the President, and that the two men had been in communication on the issue.

“Before he departed, President Christofias gave instructions that it was the position of the government – and made very clear to the UN and the other side – that any violation of the agreement for the opening of the crossing would result in closure,” Stefanou told the Sunday Mail.


Asked why the President felt the need to return if everything was being handled according to his instructions, Stefanou said: “He came back to safeguard the implementation of the agreement. It is the will of the government that Ledra be open and to use this positive step to move forwards. The closure of Ledra would be a negative development. We didn’t ask for excuses, we asked for the implementation of the agreement. The UN is fully responsible for the buffer zone and they have to act in this spirit. If there is a violation there will be a lack of trust.”

According to the agreement to open Ledra Street, neither Greek Cypriot nor Turkish Cypriot police are to enter the 80-metre stretch linking the two ends of the crossing point.

However on, the opening day, the Turkish Cypriot police violated the agreement three times. The first was prior to the opening, when eight officers stationed themselves on the corner of Kykkos Street, which bisects Ledra half way to the Turkish Cypriot checkpoint.

The second violation happened just after the opening ceremony when two Turkish Cypriot police officers escorted the Turkish Cypriot mayor all the way up to the Greek Cypriot police line when he was crossing for a coffee with Nicosia Mayor Eleni Mavrou.

The third violation in the evening was the one that led to the closure, for which the Turkish Cypriot side blamed the Greek Cypriots. A statement from the Turkish Cypriot Press and Information Office called it a surprise, and a provocation.

“The Lokmac? gateway was closed at around 8.30pm with the allegation that the buffer zone had been infringed by Turkish police, only to reopen again at 11pm through UN initiatives and intense Turkish diplomacy,” the statement said.

“It was later discovered that the short crisis which took place last night was a result of Greek Cypriot demonstrators carrying banners which infringed Turkish Cypriot controlled areas,” it added.

It said 20 Greek Cypriots crossed the Greek Cypriot barricade to the Turkish Cypriot line at 8.15pm carrying placards and shouting slogans. Turkish Cypriot police were authorised through the agreement with the UN to intervene in the area under such circumstances.

However, Turkish Cypriot police were actually stationed at the corner of Kykkos and Ledra Streets as early as 8pm. Having personally witnessed the scene, there were no protestors there at that time. (says Jean Christou)

The Turkish Cypriot police had run a cordon from their checkpoint to the corner of Kykkos Street, where two UN soldiers were stationed on either side of Ledra Street. One Turkish Cypriot police officer was sauntering up and down no more than two feet away from the UN guards, one of whom was chatting to a civilian and the other watching the fireworks display, both oblivious to the violation.



Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2008
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 7&cat_id=1


Thanks halil! That confirms all my claims, all along, and ruins all of Bananiot's lies and distortions, and this from the Cyprus Mail! Thanks once more Halil! The whole truth at last, from a source extremist Bananiot cannot dispute!
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Postby boomerang » Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:59 pm

Cyprus accuses Turkey of marring crossing opening



NICOSIA (AFP) - Cyprus President Demetris Christofias cut short his first official visit to London on Friday after a row over policing marred the opening of a landmark crossing in the island's divided capital.


After being sealed off for more than 40 years, the Ledra Street commercial thoroughfare in the heart of Nicosia reopened to great fanfare on Thursday, only to be closed by the Greek Cypriots 12 hours later.

Following intervention by the United Nations, the crossing remained shut for just three hours, but the incident overshadowed what had been billed as a key confidence-building measure ahead of relaunched reunification talks with the Turkish Cypriots.

Christofias made plain that he blamed the Turkish military, not Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat, for what the Greek Cypriots charged was an encroachment into the UN-patrolled buffer zone by Turkish Cypriot police.

""I was obliged to return so I am present and closer to the continued violations of what is essentially the Turkish army in the area of the buffer zone,"" the president told reporters on his return from London.

""I want the Cypriot people to know that I don't consider Mr Talat to be guilty of these violations, I sincerely believe he doesn't feel good about it either.

""I will try and get in touch with Mr Talat in an effort to put a stop to this situation, which I believe is also unpleasant for him.""


Christofias was to meet representatives of the five veto-wielding permanent members of the UN Security Council later on Friday, as well as UN chief of mission Elizabeth Spehar, in a bid to prevent the row from souring the recent improvement in relations between the two sides.

Thursday's reopening of Ledra Street for the first time since intercommunal violence erupted on the island in 1963 was hailed as signalling a new climate of trust between the island's divided communities.

It was agreed at a breakthrough meeting last month between Christofias and Talat, who also set a June date for the resumption of reunification talks which had gone nowhere for the past four years.

Cyprus has been divided along ethnic lines since 1974 when Turkey seized its northern third in response to an Athens-engineered Greek Cypriot coup aimed at uniting the island with Greece.

http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=165448


Here is the version without the bullshit Kifeas...short and sweet...
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:04 pm

You know boomerang, I would have never gotten involved with this issue -since anyway I wasn't surprised at all from what happened, as I know there is nothing better to expect from the Turkish side, on any issue; had it not been for the deliberate distortions and lies of an extremist in this forum!
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Postby boomerang » Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:08 pm

Kifeas wrote:You know boomerang, I would have never gotten involved with this issue -since anyway I wasn't surprised as there is nothing better to be expected from the Turkish side, on any issue; had it not been for the distortions and lies of an extremist in this forum!


I know exactly what you mean...just hope Bananiot is reading this... straight from the horses mouth and not some trashy tabloid...:lol:

PS...your input is always valuable, and hopefully we get to see and read more of it...I for one always look forward to reading what you have to say...keep it up and often enough...
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