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[Bill]

We shouldn't do anything actually. They should realise the above themselves. Democracy is a great thing and the key to prosperity. Do you disagree? It cannot coexist with the muslim law Saria. Can you name one muslim country with real democracy? They reduced theirselves to subhumans and dependent to Europe and North America.

I thought we were talking about students coming from India.

I may be wrong here but I didn't think the Muslim faith was the predominant religion in India ~ although it seems it is in Pakistan.

Bill

[Bill]

and what is this about aurpairs and sunday help being mistreated. why ever would the very hospitiable cypriots mistreat someone of a "lower class"? i remember in my visit, eating in resturaunt, across from some GC couple, with what appeared to me an aupair or some kind of housekeeper. she looked asian. and she looked hugely unhappy, supressed, in emotional pain. it was a very sad sight indeed.

This is not a unusual sight in Cyprus GG although to be fair a good number of families treat their home help quite well but there are an equal number who treat them in an abysmal manner and the girls are extremely unhappy as you have noticed .

But even the ones in Cyprus that are not treated so well are still better off than those contracted to work in some of the Arab states so it's not all gloom and doom .

Up till January I used to have a Sri Lankan girl come to visit every so often ~ she was looking after an old couple who were well in to their eighties in the house opposite ~ quite often the old lady would beat her husband with the broom and when the girl stepped in to stop it the old lady would beat her too .

Sadly the old guy died last year but the beatings continued but this time the home help was the target ~ she would often seek refuge at my home .

I was quite surprised she stayed there but as she pointed out the lady was very old and not ok mentally so she felt sorry for her and of course the most important factor was she needed the money for her family back home .

The old lady also died ( in January ) and as the government couldn't find an alternative place for the girl she had to go back to her own country.

One point to mention is that she was surprised that I treated her as a person and not as lower class as it seemed to her that the Cypriot people did .

Bill

[denizaksulu]

and what is this about aurpairs and sunday help being mistreated. why ever would the very hospitiable cypriots mistreat someone of a "lower class"? i remember in my visit, eating in resturaunt, across from some GC couple, with what appeared to me an aupair or some kind of housekeeper. she looked asian. and she looked hugely unhappy, supressed, in emotional pain. it was a very sad sight indeed.

This is not a unusual sight in Cyprus GG although to be fair a good number of families treat their home help quite well but there are an equal number who treat them in an abysmal manner and the girls are extremely unhappy as you have noticed .

But even the ones in Cyprus that are not treated so well are still better off than those contracted to work in some of the Arab states so it's not all gloom and doom .

Up till January I used to have a Sri Lankan girl come to visit every so often ~ she was looking after an old couple who were well in to their eighties in the house opposite ~ quite often the old lady would beat her husband with the broom and when the girl stepped in to stop it the old lady would beat her too .

Sadly the old guy died last year but the beatings continued but this time the home help was the target ~ she would often seek refuge at my home .

I was quite surprised she stayed there but as she pointed out the lady was very old and not ok mentally so she felt sorry for her and of course the most important factor was she needed the money for her family back home .

The old lady also died ( in January ) and as the government couldn't find an alternative place for the girl she had to go back to her own country.

One point to mention is that she was surprised that I treated her as a person and not as lower class as it seemed to her that the Cypriot people did .

Bill

Just curious, I will have to find out if they have the Caste system in Sri Lanka.

[GorillaGal]

and what is this about aurpairs and sunday help being mistreated. why ever would the very hospitiable cypriots mistreat someone of a "lower class"? i remember in my visit, eating in resturaunt, across from some GC couple, with what appeared to me an aupair or some kind of housekeeper. she looked asian. and she looked hugely unhappy, supressed, in emotional pain. it was a very sad sight indeed.

This is not a unusual sight in Cyprus GG although to be fair a good number of families treat their home help quite well but there are an equal number who treat them in an abysmal manner and the girls are extremely unhappy as you have noticed .

But even the ones in Cyprus that are not treated so well are still better off than those contracted to work in some of the Arab states so it's not all gloom and doom .

Up till January I used to have a Sri Lankan girl come to visit every so often ~ she was looking after an old couple who were well in to their eighties in the house opposite ~ quite often the old lady would beat her husband with the broom and when the girl stepped in to stop it the old lady would beat her too .

Sadly the old guy died last year but the beatings continued but this time the home help was the target ~ she would often seek refuge at my home .

I was quite surprised she stayed there but as she pointed out the lady was very old and not ok mentally so she felt sorry for her and of course the most important factor was she needed the money for her family back home .

The old lady also died ( in January ) and as the government couldn't find an alternative place for the girl she had to go back to her own country.

One point to mention is that she was surprised that I treated her as a person and not as lower class as it seemed to her that the Cypriot people did .

Bill

well Bill, you don't suprize me! i think you treat everyone with respect, regardless of "caste"

[Sega]

There is an EU directive which states that students enrolled in schools or universities in EU states are authorized to work regardless of nationality. Cyprus refuses to allow them to work...so they are protesting. Why does the initial poster refer to it as a "black protest".

Does he/she have something against people of color?

God, how I forgot how people take things the wrong way in Cyprus-Forum. I saw Asian people, darker than normal Cypriots, protesting for their freedom in Cyprus, where somewhat 10 years ago most of them did not even live here. Cyprus is a long devided country that has yet to see it's freedom. Anyway, the Cypriot law is the law in Cyprus, if you don't like it there is always planes.

Greek-god, I think Sega said colour because he did not know their nationality and did not want to write Indian or TC in case he was wrong (he explain that in his first post).

At some point is not nice for the students that are poor and want to be educated not to be able to work but on the other hand as Bill said most of them comes for the money they can earn working here and not the education. Few years ago we had lots of students enrolled to Cyprus college that did not have to attend to classes and present themselves as students but they were working. I am not sure if Cyprus college changed their policies but i guess government is trying to do something about it.

A friend of mine from Pakistan was asking me if he is able to work as a student and when I ask him if he finally decide what he was going to study he said not yet but they told him that he could work which for him was more important and he wanted to know if its true or not.

Thanks LENA, it's always good to here some sense. My personal beliefs are, if your here for education, then you should be here for education. Not some mass business plan. You need the laws permission for that. You prove the point that many from India/Pakistan come to countries not for education but for the wealth/money associated with that.

i started reading this thread and it just makes me sick. it is ok for people with money to come visit, but god forbid should they want to get a paying job? and what is this about aurpairs and sunday help being mistreated. why ever would the very hospitiable cypriots mistreat someone of a "lower class"? i remember in my visit, eating in resturaunt, across from some GC couple, with what appeared to me an aupair or some kind of housekeeper. she looked asian. and she looked hugely unhappy, supressed, in emotional pain. it was a very sad sight indeed.

Are you not from the USA? Stop judging other countries when yours is far worse when it comes to issues for foreign worker equiring work permits, not to mention it's mistreatment of minorities and poorer classes. If anything makes the world sick is the United States of America, not Cyprus. GG you seriously have problems, your mentality is all screwed up. To be honest I have more pressing things to do that talk to people who simply won't comprehend.

[Sega]

and what is this about aurpairs and sunday help being mistreated. why ever would the very hospitiable cypriots mistreat someone of a "lower class"? i remember in my visit, eating in resturaunt, across from some GC couple, with what appeared to me an aupair or some kind of housekeeper. she looked asian. and she looked hugely unhappy, supressed, in emotional pain. it was a very sad sight indeed.

This is not a unusual sight in Cyprus GG although to be fair a good number of families treat their home help quite well but there are an equal number who treat them in an abysmal manner and the girls are extremely unhappy as you have noticed .

But even the ones in Cyprus that are not treated so well are still better off than those contracted to work in some of the Arab states so it's not all gloom and doom .

Up till January I used to have a Sri Lankan girl come to visit every so often ~ she was looking after an old couple who were well in to their eighties in the house opposite ~ quite often the old lady would beat her husband with the broom and when the girl stepped in to stop it the old lady would beat her too .

Sadly the old guy died last year but the beatings continued but this time the home help was the target ~ she would often seek refuge at my home .

I was quite surprised she stayed there but as she pointed out the lady was very old and not ok mentally so she felt sorry for her and of course the most important factor was she needed the money for her family back home .

The old lady also died ( in January ) and as the government couldn't find an alternative place for the girl she had to go back to her own country.

One point to mention is that she was surprised that I treated her as a person and not as lower class as it seemed to her that the Cypriot people did .

Bill

Just curious, I will have to find out if they have the Caste system in Sri Lanka.

Here is your answer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_in_Sri_Lanka

[LENA]

Thanks LENA, it's always good to here some sense. My personal beliefs are, if your here for education, then you should be here for education. Not some mass business plan. You need the laws permission for that. You prove the point that many from India/Pakistan come to countries not for education but for the wealth/money associated with that.

Some people cannot afford to pay their fees and other experses or their families cannot support them. Its not bad to work and study but you dont have to go to Uni just to be able to work or put work above Uni when you are a student. Life is not always easy Sega.

[denizaksulu]

and what is this about aurpairs and sunday help being mistreated. why ever would the very hospitiable cypriots mistreat someone of a "lower class"? i remember in my visit, eating in resturaunt, across from some GC couple, with what appeared to me an aupair or some kind of housekeeper. she looked asian. and she looked hugely unhappy, supressed, in emotional pain. it was a very sad sight indeed.

This is not a unusual sight in Cyprus GG although to be fair a good number of families treat their home help quite well but there are an equal number who treat them in an abysmal manner and the girls are extremely unhappy as you have noticed .

But even the ones in Cyprus that are not treated so well are still better off than those contracted to work in some of the Arab states so it's not all gloom and doom .

Up till January I used to have a Sri Lankan girl come to visit every so often ~ she was looking after an old couple who were well in to their eighties in the house opposite ~ quite often the old lady would beat her husband with the broom and when the girl stepped in to stop it the old lady would beat her too .

Sadly the old guy died last year but the beatings continued but this time the home help was the target ~ she would often seek refuge at my home .

I was quite surprised she stayed there but as she pointed out the lady was very old and not ok mentally so she felt sorry for her and of course the most important factor was she needed the money for her family back home .

The old lady also died ( in January ) and as the government couldn't find an alternative place for the girl she had to go back to her own country.

One point to mention is that she was surprised that I treated her as a person and not as lower class as it seemed to her that the Cypriot people did .

Bill

Just curious, I will have to find out if they have the Caste system in Sri Lanka.

Here is your answer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_in_Sri_Lanka

Thank you Sega for the link. I had to be sure.

Regards

[Svetlana]

In reality, the ethnic divide is much more prominent than than the caste system in Sri Lanka. The majority Sinhalese are mainly Bhuddist, the Tamils are Hindu and the Burghers (descendents of the Dutch) Christian.

There are similarites (when 'Ceylon' was a British colony) to pre 1974 Cyprus, where the British sided with the Tamils to divide the population and maintain rule.

Some 70,000 people have died in the last 35 years as the Tamil Tigers (LTTE) have fought a separatist cause. A number of bombs went of in Colombo when I was over there in December. With 35,000 souls killed by the Tsunami, the island, already stricken with poverty seems, doubly cursed.

Certainly the uneducation farmers are looked down on by the City folk as inferior beings.

Lana

[Get Real!]

Thanks LENA, it's always good to here some sense. My personal beliefs are, if your here for education, then you should be here for education. Not some mass business plan. You need the laws permission for that. You prove the point that many from India/Pakistan come to countries not for education but for the wealth/money associated with that.

Some people cannot afford to pay their fees and other experses or their families cannot support them. Its not bad to work and study but you dont have to go to Uni just to be able to work or put work above Uni when you are a student. Life is not always easy Sega.

If you can't afford it you don't go there Lena... simple!