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LEDRA/LOKMACI OPENS AFTER NEARLY 50 YEARS

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LEDRA/LOKMACI OPENS AFTER NEARLY 50 YEARS

Postby Bananiot » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:28 pm

It was a very sentimental morning. History was written as the long closed street was opened and people walked through it for the first time in nearly have a century. On the Turkish side the occasion was marked with music, songs, peace banners and cakes. I found myself surrounded by hundreds of like-minded (to borrow a phrase that was thrown at me just the other day) people from both communities. It was simply exhilarating and I felt so much at ease. There were people hugging each other with spirits heightened by the renewed prospect of solution.

On my way back I heard on the radio the miserable politicians of DIKO and EDEK that tried in vein to play down a most significant moment in the history of our island.

My friends, the momentum for solution is back! There is still hope after all. I saw it in the eyes of the people of Ledra Street. The celebrations continue tonight. Come and see for yourself.
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Postby observer » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:44 pm

:D :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: LEDRA/LOKMACI OPENS AFTER NEARLY 50 YEARS

Postby halil » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:44 pm

Bananiot wrote:It was a very sentimental morning. History was written as the long closed street was opened and people walked through it for the first time in nearly have a century. On the Turkish side the occasion was marked with music, songs, peace banners and cakes. I found myself surrounded by hundreds of like-minded (to borrow a phrase that was thrown at me just the other day) people from both communities. It was simply exhilarating and I felt so much at ease. There were people hugging each other with spirits heightened by the renewed prospect of solution.

On my way back I heard on the radio the miserable politicians of DIKO and EDEK that tried in vein to play down a most significant moment in the history of our island.

My friends, the momentum for solution is back! There is still hope after all. I saw it in the eyes of the people of Ledra Street. The celebrations continue tonight. Come and see for yourself.


Bananiot,
i was there too . i was busy with up-linking the events around the world . what time u will be there (tonight) i will be around ..... i will phone u .
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:32 pm

Good News Bananiot, people from both sides had lost all hope of a solution but today saw that where there is a will there is a way, Papacrap and no will so there was noway anything was going to happen. Those that supported many of which are on this forum should cringe in disgust at their stupidity for support such a loser.
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:37 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Good News Bananiot, people from both sides had lost all hope of a solution but today saw that where there is a will there is a way, Papacrap and no will so there was noway anything was going to happen. Those that supported many of which are on this forum should cringe in disgust at their stupidity for support such a loser.


:shock: You have changed your tune from your partitionist perspective.

I saw some of the events on RIk Sat in Australia. There were certainly a lot of very happy TCs, some of which were interviewed on RIK.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:34 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Good News Bananiot, people from both sides had lost all hope of a solution but today saw that where there is a will there is a way, Papacrap and no will so there was noway anything was going to happen. Those that supported many of which are on this forum should cringe in disgust at their stupidity for support such a loser.


Are you saying that now with Christofias you will give back what you stole, our country will be liberated from the Turkish occupation, and we will have our human and democratic back? If that happens then I will admit whatever you want.

But my guess is this: That you will accept nothing better than partition or disguised partition of the kind of Annan plan regardless of who we elect as president. We have elected 5 different presidents so far and the occupation is still there because you insist that the north part of our country is Turkish and you demand to gain land and power on our loss.

There is only one way to prove me wrong Viewpoint, and that is not opening gates so more money can flow to you, while we get nothing from what you stole from us and our country remains under illegal occupation.

So far whatever I said about you is proven right to the letter. Or maybe after GCs and TCs will mix happily in Lydras you will admit that there is no need for separation and segregation? No, because for you GCs are only good to be tourists in their own land so you can exploit them even more.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:48 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Good News Bananiot, people from both sides had lost all hope of a solution but today saw that where there is a will there is a way, Papacrap and no will so there was noway anything was going to happen. Those that supported many of which are on this forum should cringe in disgust at their stupidity for support such a loser.


:shock: You have changed your tune from your partitionist perspective.

I saw some of the events on RIk Sat in Australia. There were certainly a lot of very happy TCs, some of which were interviewed on RIK.


Willing to give it a chance Pap but dont hold out much hope of an overall solution, didnt want to put a damper on things.
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:33 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Good News Bananiot, people from both sides had lost all hope of a solution but today saw that where there is a will there is a way, Papacrap and no will so there was noway anything was going to happen. Those that supported many of which are on this forum should cringe in disgust at their stupidity for support such a loser.


:shock: You have changed your tune from your partitionist perspective.

I saw some of the events on RIk Sat in Australia. There were certainly a lot of very happy TCs, some of which were interviewed on RIK.


Willing to give it a chance Pap but dont hold out much hope of an overall solution, didnt want to put a damper on things.


Where there is life, there is hope. It can be achieved, and from what I understand, a solution is what the majority of GCs and TCs want.
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Postby Jerry » Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:37 pm

Can anyone post some pictures of this happy event please?
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:29 pm

Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Good News Bananiot, people from both sides had lost all hope of a solution but today saw that where there is a will there is a way, Papacrap and no will so there was noway anything was going to happen. Those that supported many of which are on this forum should cringe in disgust at their stupidity for support such a loser.


Are you saying that now with Christofias you will give back what you stole, our country will be liberated from the Turkish occupation, and we will have our human and democratic back? If that happens then I will admit whatever you want.

But my guess is this: That you will accept nothing better than partition or disguised partition of the kind of Annan plan regardless of who we elect as president. We have elected 5 different presidents so far and the occupation is still there because you insist that the north part of our country is Turkish and you demand to gain land and power on our loss.

There is only one way to prove me wrong Viewpoint, and that is not opening gates so more money can flow to you, while we get nothing from what you stole from us and our country remains under illegal occupation.

So far whatever I said about you is proven right to the letter. Or maybe after GCs and TCs will mix happily in Lydras you will admit that there is no need for separation and segregation? No, because for you GCs are only good to be tourists in their own land so you can exploit them even more.



The ultimate goal should of course take into account what you are saying but we cannot achieve this over night its not like opening a gate. This is just another step towards building confidence and trust, I personally have been positively influenced by your current leader who appears to be more flexible and talks as if we to are his people. Because of his positive stance I am now more trusting and would be more flexible on certain issues that concerned me in the past and for which I demanded safeguards.

This is not to say we do not want safeguards at all but these can be for a transitional period so trust and understanding can lead to cooperation and a better future for all.

Could you kindly repeat what you said about me so that I may understand how you view the majority of TCs.

You appear to be upset about the opening as you feel it will benefit only the north, check the number of GCs crossing and you will soon find out which side is crossing and spending more, you guys still come over with your sandwiches so as not to spend money here. You only shit in our toilets as that is free, we are thinking of charging you so you then have to keep it in until you get back to your side, then you can shit and use your own water supplies not ours. :lol:
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