Kikapu wrote:Viewpoint wrote:
You are stuck on this Turkish thing, why not say its North Cyprus where you can go and live as freely as I do and I can go live in South Cyprus if thats what I want, no Turkish or Greek. Where you want to use your numerical advantage is important here, you see fit for me to live in a state where you run the show and I abide but when I suggest why dont we create a systme where everyone can choose where they want to live and whom they wish to be ruled by either the north or south states, no Greek no Turkish, whats wrong with that?
Let me get this straight. You are saying that the GC's can come and get their property, live in the North, under one country, with no Turkish or Greek states, but only under a TC rule in the North and a GC rule in the South. The question is,
a) do the GC's get to vote in the North
b) Can they elect their members to the local government
c) Do they need to learn Turkish to be able to vote and be elected
d) If the answer is NO for any one of the above, does that mean they do not have any rights, other than paying taxes. So in essence, you want to run a Racist state with segregation between the TC's and the GC's. So, the GC's will not be welcomed to come and stay in their own country as equal citizens, because they will be discriminated.
e) So, lets continue. If the answer is a Yes to the above, what will you do, if the GC's start having more members in the local government in the North.?? Are you going to put a limit on how many can join the local government.??
f) Without putting words in your mouth, my feeling is, you want to keep the government in the North strictly TC, which means the GC will not have any representation. You just want to exercise a Racist, Undemocratic, and Violation of Human Rights, because you will not allow the GC's to vote in the North, or hold any office. I have known few Racist people in my life, but you really take the cake if indeed that is what you intend for it to happen in the North.
The next stage will be to declare Independence legally, then kick all the GC's out of the North. You did say once, that
"you did not want any Greek spoken around you or your children". Now you understand why I oppose you at every turn, is not because I support the GC's and not the TC's, but it's because I cannot support Racist and Fascistic ideology in today's world that you promote. Days of Hitler and other Fascist are over, so I thought, but here you are, to prove me wrong.
Please tell me I'm wrong, so that I will take back everything negative I have said about you, so that I can start apologizing.
You are totally wrong and purposely taking things out of context, I said I want a choice where my children can grow up in their own country where Turkish is spoken, why cant we have that choice in Cyprus we have 2 official languages so why cant we have a region where Turkish or Greek is predominately spoken and people can choose if they wish to reside in the area. Eg Italian in Italy, English in England, Scottish in Scotland, Welsh in Wales, the equivalent being Turkish in the north state and Greek in the south state, why is this so difficult to understand?
With regards to GCs who would wish to reside in the north state they should not be treated nay different from those TC who move south, everyone can have 1 vote but the over structure can determine if a GC is voted in for local government by way of fixed numbers of GC and TC members.
For example everyone casts their votes, the first 20 GC candidates with most votes get into office plus the top 5 TC candidates with the most votes. So if Yorgo gets 5000 votes in Kyrenia but is in overall 21st place he doesn't get into office, if he is 20th and beats his TC opponent who is not in the top 5 then he gets into office, this is off the top of my head but it might just work.
Where there is a will there is a way, with property you know my views by now I will not bother repeating them, with regards to language the ideal situation would be for everyone to learn all 3 languages but any GC who wishes to reside in the north state might have problems if they did know Turkish and same for those TCs who want to live in the south. A GC local government leader with a team who only speaks Turkish would have great difficulties running the show if he could not converse with his staff and a high proportion of the people he represents.
