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[wallace]

Maybe you didn't personally ethnically cleanse but you support and justify the fuckers that did. That you can not life with the fact that 80% of the island speaks greek is your problem. The world will know what your motherland and your so called peacekeeping force is made of the coming time soon. I'm not to worried.....I will get back what belongs to me at a certain point. Can you life with that Cypriot??

[Viewpoint]

Maybe you didn't personally ethnically cleanse but you support and justify the fuckers that did. That you can not life with the fact that 80% of the island speaks greek is your problem. The world will know what your motherland and your so called peacekeeping force is made of the coming time soon. I'm not to worried.....I will get back what belongs to me at a certain point. Can you life with that Cypriot??

You have every right to get back what you lost, you can apply to our property commission and claim your property, you have choice if the property is not used the property itself, exchange with land in the south or financial compensation or you always have the GC option of waiting until you are dead.

[denizaksulu]

Plus if it is OK to be racist here, as you say, then anyone should be allowed to be racist and not just yourselves or Phoenix, so stop deleting my god damn posts and at least have SOME amount of decency just for the sake of the argument!

Thank you.

ADMIN is being racist for condoning racist attacks against a whole people and Turkish Cypriots.

ADMIN is like a football referee. It ok to commit a foul, but not ok to retaliate. We need an explanation why this is so. We can all be insulted by one person, but we can not retaliate. This is not a Cyprus Forum , this is a Greek/Hellenic forum.

[Get Real!]

Jesus fucking Christ...

And you guys think the opening of Ledra street is news???

[Piratis]

I haven't ethnically cleansed shit Piratis, i am a Cypriot too and it is you who created some god dam Greek fascist state on this island by excluding us, yet here you are calling me a hypocrite and a racist?

Jesus fucking Christ man at one point did your brain stop malfunctioning?

Yes something is different today, we are also free from racist pricks that wanted to violate our human rights, if we hadn't fought them no one would have even remembered our existence today so we will stand proud, no amount of racist bullshit propaganda spread by the likes of you and Phoenix will ever change the fact that we have freed ourselves from your ethnocentric hegemonic bollocks that you call "your indigenous right", you are just as full of shit as her and the likes of you two are the root of the evil, not only on this island but all over the world, because you are manipulative, discriminating and racist.

The worst part is that i do not believe the fact that you are dumb enough not to see how lame you actually sound, you are clever enough to know exactly what you are doing and that is to repeat the same crap over and over in the hope that you will actually play your bit in order to make a change in this scenario and turn the whole event to your own advantage, further punish the oppressed until you reach your ultimate goal which is to Greekify this whole island while constantly hijacking the EU and the wonderful concept of Human Rights.

Well keep dreaming my man, keep dreaming, the world will eventually know what you are made of and what has taken place here and you too will be nothing but a part of the disgraceful part of the human history and the new generation from both sides will be laughing at rotten old grumps like you with their asses!

For once more you are proving your racism.

You are using some tiny and distorted part of the past to excuse the stealing of land and the human rights violations of 100s of thousands of innocent people simply because they are Greek Cypriots.

We never ventured out of our island to harm anybody. It is others that kept invading us and trying to force their rule over us. Our only "crime" was to fight against those rulers for our freedom and our self-determination, and nothing more than that.

This island is a Greek island for 1000s of years. We didn't try to make it anything that it is not. On the contrary it is you who came to our island trying to forcefully change it to somehting different, with your last attempt starting in 1974 and continuing until today where you not only ethnically cleansed the majority of Cypriots from the north part of our country, but you also changed the names of our villages and destroyed almost everything that shows the true identity of the occupied part of our country.

So after all these racist crimes that you personally support, it is very hypocritical from you to come here and accuse others of racism.

What I support is respect to the human rights for all Cypriots (including you), freedom of speech for all (including you), and no racist discriminations and segregations like the ones you are trying to impose by force on us, as if we are still in the middle ages.

ADMIN is being racist for condoning racist attacks against a whole people and Turkish Cypriots.

So what you are saying is that Admin by allowing you to express and support racist actions and crimes is actually condoning racism?
I guess the way he sees it is that he is allowing you to have free speech, regardless of what you support. However you might have a point there since this is his forum and what some of you say in here might reflect badly on him. If thats how you see it then why don't you tell him to ban anybody that promotes racist actions in the forum? Or you want to silence only the ones you disagree with, while the racists you agree with should be let free to spread their racist ideas?

[Oracle]

I haven't ethnically cleansed shit Piratis, i am a Cypriot too and it is you who created some god dam Greek fascist state on this island by excluding us, yet here you are calling me a hypocrite and a racist?

Jesus fucking Christ man at one point did your brain stop malfunctioning?

Yes something is different today, we are also free from racist pricks that wanted to violate our human rights, if we hadn't fought them no one would have even remembered our existence today so we will stand proud, no amount of racist bullshit propaganda spread by the likes of you and Phoenix will ever change the fact that we have freed ourselves from your ethnocentric hegemonic bollocks that you call "your indigenous right", you are just as full of shit as her and the likes of you two are the root of the evil, not only on this island but all over the world, because you are manipulative, discriminating and racist.

The worst part is that i do not believe the fact that you are dumb enough not to see how lame you actually sound, you are clever enough to know exactly what you are doing and that is to repeat the same crap over and over in the hope that you will actually play your bit in order to make a change in this scenario and turn the whole event to your own advantage, further punish the oppressed until you reach your ultimate goal which is to Greekify this whole island while constantly hijacking the EU and the wonderful concept of Human Rights.

Well keep dreaming my man, keep dreaming, the world will eventually know what you are made of and what has taken place here and you too will be nothing but a part of the disgraceful part of the human history and the new generation from both sides will be laughing at rotten old grumps like you with their asses!

Firstly, just because you declare you are Cypriot, it does not make you so.

To be Cypriot you have to recognise the RoC and join in the efforts to remove the enemy ... The Turks.

If you can do that, you're in!

You have acquired the north by invasion and ethnic cleansing. By continuing to deny this, you do yourselves no favours. You will only force another conference similar to that for the Recognition of the Armenian Genocide.

If your justification for stealing the north is that you feared Greekification, if ever there was a possibility, there certainly no longer is. So problem removed, ipso facto so is any justification.

As far as what the GCs may have done to the TCs ...... you sound like the fox with feathers flying out if its mouth screaming at the farmer outside the empty chicken coup .....

"It's not my fault! They were pecking, cooing and clucking and they were just so tempting .... it's all their fault I had to eat them!"

[Piratis]

Firstly, just because you declare you are Cypriot, it does not make you so.

To be Cypriot you have to recognise the RoC and join in the efforts to remove the enemy ... The Turks.

Supporting the ehtnic cleansing of 100s of thousands of innocent people just because of their ethnic background it doesn't make him a "non-Cypriot". But it does make him a racist.

Oracle, you sound racist too in many occasions, and of course it would be best if everybody would stop being racist and supporting racist actions, and all accept to leave the excuses from the past behind and finally have a truly united, truly democratic country, without racist discriminations and segregations.

But it is sad when some people here can not see their own extreme racism, and then they have the arrogance to accuse other of racism. It is the pot calling the kettle black, as the English say.

[Viewpoint]

Firstly, just because you declare you are Cypriot, it does not make you so.

To be Cypriot you have to recognise the RoC and join in the efforts to remove the enemy ... The Turks.

Supporting the ehtnic cleansing of 100s of thousands of innocent people just because of their ethnic background it doesn't make him a "non-Cypriot". But it does make him a racist.

Oracle, you sound racist too in many occasions, and of course it would be best if everybody would stop being racist and supporting racist actions, and all accept to leave the excuses from the past behind and finally have a truly united, truly democratic country, without racist discriminations and segregations.

But it is sad when some people here can not see their own extreme racism, and then they have the arrogance to accuse other of racism. It is the pot calling the kettle black, as the English say.

You to caused the current divide, why not concentrate on finding a balanced solution? if we are uncapable fo doing so then agree partition is the only solution failing that the current situation will prevail for a long time to come.

[Oracle]

Firstly, just because you declare you are Cypriot, it does not make you so.

To be Cypriot you have to recognise the RoC and join in the efforts to remove the enemy ... The Turks.

Supporting the ehtnic cleansing of 100s of thousands of innocent people just because of their ethnic background it doesn't make him a "non-Cypriot". But it does make him a racist.

Oracle, you sound racist too in many occasions, and of course it would be best if everybody would stop being racist and supporting racist actions, and all accept to leave the excuses from the past behind and finally have a truly united, truly democratic country, without racist discriminations and segregations.

But it is sad when some people here can not see their own extreme racism, and then they have the arrogance to accuse other of racism. It is the pot calling the kettle black, as the English say.

Cypriots are not a "race" Piratis. It is an interchangeable term that can be applied to those that fulfil the legitimate requirements for being placed in this National group ... which is why I stated shah could become Cypriot if he chose.

Besides I would have to discriminate in such a way that I believed there was an insurmountable genetic predisposition which could not be overcome because of some inferiority.

I view it as a weakness to blame things on genes hence race, when it is simply the will to change attitudes that is at fault.

Genetically there is only one race, the Human race .... and individuals possess more differences than groups of people. Which is why individuals need more protection than "communities". (But that's another project!)

I have always advocated that the habits (memes) which distinguish different groups of people can be modified or changed at will or through indoctrination, such that people can diffuse between one culture and another ... as I have done a few times.

[CopperLine]

Piratis,
If, as it appears, you are a moderator on this forum, your latest posts on this thread were, I regret to say, a sheer disgrace.

First, there is a basic conflict of interests. On the one hand you are in a position to delete or block posts and on the other hand you are a frequent poster.

Second, your posts on this thread betray a basic inability to distinguish the moral, legal and political difference between an action and a thought. How on earth can you seriously equate an act of killing, say, with the thought of killing !

Third, you make an outrageous slur - tantamount to a libel - on people by saying that because some persons of group X were murdered by some persons of group Y then any and all individuals of group Y are murderers or accomplices in crime. This is manifestly absurd. Without a doubt there are Greek Cypriots who have killed Turkish Cypriots, but I cannot possibly therefore conclude that all Greek Cypriots are TC killers. (But notice that Oracle's argument is exactly this, but its mirror image. How many times has she posted that Turks are inherently aggressive, expansionist, liars, cheats, killers, murderers, ethnic cleansers, etc ? And yet you conclude that it is OK for her to pollute this forum with such racist and offensive ideas.


(You say that you are motivated by a desire to uphold human rights, right ? Well how about starting with the human right to be judged for individual actions, not to be subjected to collective judgements and punishments, to be allowed access to and shown evidence of alleged crimes, and for a fair hearing. In what you are doing here you are acting as investigator, prosecutor, judge and jury; you are charging people with offences that they did not actually commit; and then you are refusing the accused from speaking in their own defence, and the damning them if they have the temerity to criticise).

And yet, fourth, when someone repeatedly makes such a manifestly racist argument you turn a blind eye as moderator and punish those who seek to point out both the stupidity and offensiveness of such postings.