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Postby shahmaran » Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:43 am

Basically it is OK to be racist here, but not OK to tell your opinion about that racist person, so its OK to insult an entire nation but not OK to insult 1 person.

Nice judge of morals there Admin, who was your mentor, Sampson? Makarios? Or even Piratis? :roll:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:55 am

shahmaran wrote:Basically it is OK to be racist here, but not OK to tell your opinion about that racist person, so its OK to insult an entire nation but not OK to insult 1 person.

Nice judge of morals there Admin, who was your mentor, Sampson? Makarios? Or even Piratis? :roll:


No it is not OK to be racist ... or sexist ... or ageist. But you have a weakness and a penchant for using these as slurs when you cannot offer counter-arguments.

It's also not OK to pick on individuals and attack them because you do not like what they say. You should not sit in judgement of others and think that you are so moral or unbiased that whatever you say is correct and must be heard. Perhaps purposefully, intentionally but unconsciously you are out to harm an individual. Now how moral is that?

Basically, offer counter-arguments to what they say ..... and accept that it takes more than knowing their views on a few issues to understand a character.

As for picking on Nations .... well that is what we are here for. When the collective conscious of a nation allows its representatives (Government) to behave in an illegal manner ... then it should expect to be criticised and ridiculed.

If it changes its ways, then there is a better world out there for it to join ... and it is most welcome. :D
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:21 am

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shahmaran wrote:Basically it is OK to be racist here, but not OK to tell your opinion about that racist person, so its OK to insult an entire nation but not OK to insult 1 person.

Nice judge of morals there Admin, who was your mentor, Sampson? Makarios? Or even Piratis? :roll:


No it is not OK to be racist ... or sexist ... or ageist. But you have a weakness and a penchant for using these as slurs when you cannot offer counter-arguments.

It's also not OK to pick on individuals and attack them because you do not like what they say. You should not sit in judgement of others and think that you are so moral or unbiased that whatever you say is correct and must be heard. Perhaps purposefully, intentionally but unconsciously you are out to harm an individual. Now how moral is that?

Basically, offer counter-arguments to what they say ..... and accept that it takes more than knowing their views on a few issues to understand a character.

As for picking on Nations .... well that is what we are here for. When the collective conscious of a nation allows its representatives (Government) to behave in an illegal manner ... then it should expect to be criticised and ridiculed.

If it changes its ways, then there is a better world out there for it to join ... and it is most welcome. :D


Yes Phoenix, the Queen of self-contradictions, and you have the audacity to teach me morals!?!?

Here you are talking about it being unfair to attack a person because "one does not like what they say" yet you have no problem in attacking MILLIONS of individuals whom you have no clue about simply because of their race, yet you don't just stop there but also add that it is NOT OK to be discriminative in any kind of way, including RACISM!

So let me get this straight; when you sit there bitching about the Turks being an inferior, barbaric, thieving, murdering, cultureless, homeless, full of "evil Memes", unfair, transvestite, no concern for human rights, nation, and that they should just - and i quote - "fuck off back to Mongolia", you actually expect me to not call you a RACIST, but instead, you expect me to come up with an "intelligent" counter-argument to your very eloquently put utter racist bollocks. Because?

Well, because Phoenix says so and anything she says must be true, she doesn't just set the tone of the discussion but also the rules and the facts and she is absolutely certain that she is in the right because she is just so fucking holy that she must know, PLUS she got bombed so she has every right in the world to be the biggest bitch towards an entire nation while advocating that it is not OK to be immoral.

So have i got it right or is there anything else you like to add?

Oh yes, you have also not forgot to mentioned that "it is not OK to judge others" :lol:

(That must have been a joke)

My god you really are a crackpot Phoenix, what planet did you say you come from again? Do you even hear yourself speak? :lol: :lol:

The downside of constantly talking so much shit Phoenix, is that, you start to loose track on the crap you spread and inevitably you start to contradict yourself and lose control because your argument is never actually rooted on any solid facts or arguments that you can fall back on, but based on purely crippled emotions, specially being the age that you are it is no surprise you forget.

But sometimes you seem to be able to pull all that off in one post! Amazing!
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Postby CopperLine » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:30 am

Well said Shahmaran

Oracle/Phoenix is the empress supreme of hypocrisy, self-contradiction and vindictive bile. I regret wasting my time with her nonsense. She doesn't have an argument about anything, she simply asserts one damned assinine bigotry after another.

I'm not sure about the circumstances, but it appears absurd to have censored your posts whilst Admin has allowed Oracle/Phoenix dozens of fundamentally and unmistakably racist posts.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:45 am

shahmaran wrote:
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shahmaran wrote:Basically it is OK to be racist here, but not OK to tell your opinion about that racist person, so its OK to insult an entire nation but not OK to insult 1 person.

Nice judge of morals there Admin, who was your mentor, Sampson? Makarios? Or even Piratis? :roll:


No it is not OK to be racist ... or sexist ... or ageist. But you have a weakness and a penchant for using these as slurs when you cannot offer counter-arguments.

It's also not OK to pick on individuals and attack them because you do not like what they say. You should not sit in judgement of others and think that you are so moral or unbiased that whatever you say is correct and must be heard. Perhaps purposefully, intentionally but unconsciously you are out to harm an individual. Now how moral is that?

Basically, offer counter-arguments to what they say ..... and accept that it takes more than knowing their views on a few issues to understand a character.

As for picking on Nations .... well that is what we are here for. When the collective conscious of a nation allows its representatives (Government) to behave in an illegal manner ... then it should expect to be criticised and ridiculed.

If it changes its ways, then there is a better world out there for it to join ... and it is most welcome. :D


Yes Phoenix, the Queen of self-contradictions, and you have the audacity to teach me morals!?!?

Here you are talking about it being unfair to attack a person because "one does not like what they say" yet you have no problem in attacking MILLIONS of individuals whom you have no clue about simply because of their race, yet you don't just stop there but also add that it is NOT OK to be discriminative in any kind of way, including RACISM!

So let me get this straight; when you sit there bitching about the Turks being an inferior, barbaric, thieving, murdering, cultureless, homeless, full of "evil Memes", unfair, transvestite, no concern for human rights, nation, and that they should just - and i quote - "fuck off back to Mongolia", you actually expect me to not call you a RACIST, but instead, you expect me to come up with an "intelligent" counter-argument to your very eloquently put utter racist bollocks. Because?

Well, because Phoenix says so and anything she says must be true, she doesn't just set the tone of the discussion but also the rules and the facts and she is absolutely certain that she is in the right because she is just so fucking holy that she must know, PLUS she got bombed so she has every right in the world to be the biggest bitch towards an entire nation while advocating that it is not OK to be immoral.

So have i got it right or is there anything else you like to add?

Oh yes, you have also not forgot to mentioned that "it is not OK to judge others" :lol:

(That must have been a joke)

My god you really are a crackpot Phoenix, what planet did you say you come from again? Do you even hear yourself speak? :lol: :lol:

The downside of constantly talking so much shit Phoenix, is that, you start to loose track on the crap you spread and inevitably you start to contradict yourself and lose control because your argument is never actually rooted on any solid facts or arguments that you can fall back on, but based on purely crippled emotions, specially being the age that you are it is no surprise you forget.

But sometimes you seem to be able to pull all that off in one post! Amazing!


Great post Shah, spot on, you have put into words what we all think about this moron..
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Postby Oracle » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:05 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Oracle wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Basically it is OK to be racist here, but not OK to tell your opinion about that racist person, so its OK to insult an entire nation but not OK to insult 1 person.

Nice judge of morals there Admin, who was your mentor, Sampson? Makarios? Or even Piratis? :roll:


No it is not OK to be racist ... or sexist ... or ageist. But you have a weakness and a penchant for using these as slurs when you cannot offer counter-arguments.

It's also not OK to pick on individuals and attack them because you do not like what they say. You should not sit in judgement of others and think that you are so moral or unbiased that whatever you say is correct and must be heard. Perhaps purposefully, intentionally but unconsciously you are out to harm an individual. Now how moral is that?

Basically, offer counter-arguments to what they say ..... and accept that it takes more than knowing their views on a few issues to understand a character.

As for picking on Nations .... well that is what we are here for. When the collective conscious of a nation allows its representatives (Government) to behave in an illegal manner ... then it should expect to be criticised and ridiculed.

If it changes its ways, then there is a better world out there for it to join ... and it is most welcome. :D


Yes Phoenix, the Queen of self-contradictions, and you have the audacity to teach me morals!?!?

Here you are talking about it being unfair to attack a person because "one does not like what they say" yet you have no problem in attacking MILLIONS of individuals whom you have no clue about simply because of their race, yet you don't just stop there but also add that it is NOT OK to be discriminative in any kind of way, including RACISM!

So let me get this straight; when you sit there bitching about the Turks being an inferior, barbaric, thieving, murdering, cultureless, homeless, full of "evil Memes", unfair, transvestite, no concern for human rights, nation, and that they should just - and i quote - "fuck off back to Mongolia", you actually expect me to not call you a RACIST, but instead, you expect me to come up with an "intelligent" counter-argument to your very eloquently put utter racist bollocks. Because?

Well, because Phoenix says so and anything she says must be true, she doesn't just set the tone of the discussion but also the rules and the facts and she is absolutely certain that she is in the right because she is just so fucking holy that she must know, PLUS she got bombed so she has every right in the world to be the biggest bitch towards an entire nation while advocating that it is not OK to be immoral.

So have i got it right or is there anything else you like to add?

Oh yes, you have also not forgot to mentioned that "it is not OK to judge others" :lol:

(That must have been a joke)

My god you really are a crackpot Phoenix, what planet did you say you come from again? Do you even hear yourself speak? :lol: :lol:

The downside of constantly talking so much shit Phoenix, is that, you start to loose track on the crap you spread and inevitably you start to contradict yourself and lose control because your argument is never actually rooted on any solid facts or arguments that you can fall back on, but based on purely crippled emotions, specially being the age that you are it is no surprise you forget.

But sometimes you seem to be able to pull all that off in one post! Amazing!


Here we go again .....

Shah screams "racist" because he knows nought else ....

CopperLine jumps on the bandwagon because he has never won an argument against me .....

Viewpoint spouts his one-liners dripping with misogyny ..

Who's next to make the pack of hounds complete ....
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:11 pm

Nothing to do with yuor gender, you are vile person full stop only here to stir up trouble bu insulting and degrading people.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:01 pm

shahmaran wrote:Basically it is OK to be racist here, but not OK to tell your opinion about that racist person, so its OK to insult an entire nation but not OK to insult 1 person.

Nice judge of morals there Admin, who was your mentor, Sampson? Makarios? Or even Piratis? :roll:


If it was not OK to be racist in here, then anybody who supported the most racist action that happened on this island since the time of the Ottomans, should have been banned.

You have ethnically cleansed 100s of thousands of Cypriots from their lands, so you can artificially create some "Turkish State" on our land, and then you have the nerve to talk about "racism"?

Not only you are the biggest racists, but you are hypocrites as well.

The reaction of Oracle might be at times extreme, but it is the natural reaction of the Cypriot people. We have suffered for centuries under the Turks who continue almost non-stop since the day they first set their foot on our island to violate our rights, and they are looking for lame excuses to continue to do so.

At least there is something different today than what we had under Ottoman rule: A part of Cyprus is free. So here we have democracy, and we have the right to demonstrate and express our opinion against those who violate our rights.

As your friend Big Al said:

Is there any more land you guys would like to lose to us, your very good at it, and theres nothing more we enjoy than taking land from greeks, like taking candy from a baby and watching the baby cry


So I guess you made a mistake that you didn't finish us off and occupy the whole of Cyprus again, because this time we at least have the right to talk, and there is nothing you can do about it.

We have always done our best to tolerate the provocative partitionists that demand that the north part of our country is "Turkish" and that they are some higher class of people that deserve to gain power and land on our loss. We even tolerate provocations of the kind posted above by Big Al. We even tolerate people like Nugary who come and boast in this forum about how they sell off our properties in the occupied parts of our country, and then you come here to complain about Oracle?

Where did you think you are? In Turkey? To implement article 301 where you are allowed to say and act in the most racist and inhuman way against others, but those others are not even allowed to talk back?
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:06 pm

I haven't ethnically cleansed shit Piratis, i am a Cypriot too and it is you who created some god dam Greek fascist state on this island by excluding us, yet here you are calling me a hypocrite and a racist?

Jesus fucking Christ man at one point did your brain stop malfunctioning?

Yes something is different today, we are also free from racist pricks that wanted to violate our human rights, if we hadn't fought them no one would have even remembered our existence today so we will stand proud, no amount of racist bullshit propaganda spread by the likes of you and Phoenix will ever change the fact that we have freed ourselves from your ethnocentric hegemonic bollocks that you call "your indigenous right", you are just as full of shit as her and the likes of you two are the root of the evil, not only on this island but all over the world, because you are manipulative, discriminating and racist.

The worst part is that i do not believe the fact that you are dumb enough not to see how lame you actually sound, you are clever enough to know exactly what you are doing and that is to repeat the same crap over and over in the hope that you will actually play your bit in order to make a change in this scenario and turn the whole event to your own advantage, further punish the oppressed until you reach your ultimate goal which is to Greekify this whole island while constantly hijacking the EU and the wonderful concept of Human Rights.

Well keep dreaming my man, keep dreaming, the world will eventually know what you are made of and what has taken place here and you too will be nothing but a part of the disgraceful part of the human history and the new generation from both sides will be laughing at rotten old grumps like you with their asses!
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:09 pm

Plus if it is OK to be racist here, as you say, then anyone should be allowed to be racist and not just yourselves or Phoenix, so stop deleting my god damn posts and at least have SOME amount of decency just for the sake of the argument!

Thank you.
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