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[zan]

There is a border you have to stop them not us.

We haven't brought any body over....Look to your border patrols....They don't seem to be doing their jobs......

New batch of immigrants tracked arriving from Syria
By Jean Christou

LARNACA police picked up another 46 illegal immigrants yesterday morning near Oroklini, half of whom were apparently spotted on a police helicopter video off Famagusta on Thursday afternoon.
The 46 immigrants, 44 Syrians and two Lebanese, were picked up in the early hours after crossing from the north and walking for two hours into Oroklini, police said.

Another group of immigrants was also being sought by police.
They had all come by boat at different times from Syria. A leaked police helicopter video broadcast on state television last night showed the tracking of one boatload some 19 nautical miles off Famagusta on Thursday afternoon.

The boat with around 20 people on board was spotted by the police helicopter crew just after noon but was in international waters and could not be intercepted.

Tracking the vessel for some three hours it appeared to be heading for the occupied areas, off Apostolos Andreas. The video also showed a Turkish Cypriot vessel with official insignia close by, but it made no attempt to intervene with the immigrant boat.

Police believe the 20 men on board the boat were among the 46 arrested yesterday morning. In statements at Oroklini, they told police that once they had gone ashore they had been on a truck for two hours to reach the British Bases, from where they entered the Republic.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=38135&cat_id=1

1,028 Illegal immigrants in northern Cyprus
By Andy Ioannou 16.MAR.08
Northern Cyprus police have said that 1,028 illegal immigrants are currently residing in the breakaway state.

Most of the immigrants arrived in the port of Famagusta by boat from Syria.
Many pay a set fee to criminals, then quickly blend into society, either working in agriculture or tourism.
However some stay in hiding and are in constant fear of discovery and deportation by authorities.

Because northern Cyprus is not internationally recognised, it has been unable to fully utilise the 1951 Geneva Agreement and little support is offered to illegal immigrants.

According to statistics from northern Cyprus police, Syria, Iran and Palestine are the biggest sources of illegal immigration.

Many of those who arrive in occupied Cyprus quickly make their way to the free areas and claim political asylum.

I mean...How much more proof do you need RW.......The hardliners are out in force and France has been dragged into it as well....Then comes this woman with bent news to add to the melee.

[repulsewarrior]

...again, the authority in the north wants to be recognised as a Sovereign country. It can demonstrate Sovereign governance, that they can be seen as a Sovereign country. It has not. There are exceptional aspects to this matter, that is a fact. Action is what is necessary, and anyone who believes, (once again) in the Rule of Law, is concerned whether they feel it is necessary to get involved or not. How do illegal aliens arrive in the KKTC, how is it that they can be counted, and not controlled? What are/were they doing there?

...seriously, if this government would want to hurry up affairs, they would not identify their territory, as a frontier which borders south Cyprus, whatever that means. People enter their society with lawless motive, in any case how can this be tolerated? And if their aim was for a Solution, which allows for the island to be seen as a whole, how does this inaction on their part become a Confidence Building Measure, that, as the People they all seek their betterment, and as Nations of people, they are equals.

[zan]

...again, the authority in the north wants to be recognised as a Sovereign country. It can demonstrate Sovereign governance, that they can be seen as a Sovereign country. It has not. There are exceptional aspects to this matter, that is a fact. Action is what is necessary, and anyone who believes, (once again) in the Rule of Law, is concerned whether they feel it is necessary to get involved or not. How do illegal aliens arrive in the KKTC, how is it that they can be counted, and not controlled? What are/were they doing there?

...seriously, if this government would want to hurry up affairs, they would not identify their territory, as a frontier which borders south Cyprus, whatever that means. People enter their society with lawless motive, in any case how can this be tolerated? And if their aim was for a Solution, which allows for the island to be seen as a whole, how does this inaction on their part become a Confidence Building Measure, that, as the People they all seek their betterment, and as Nations of people, they are equals.

When good will comes our way then and only then can we return it.....The tricks of the past are still being played and asking France to throw some weight into something that the "RoC" should be doing it self does not build trust but suspicion.

[repulsewarrior]

...goodwill is goodwill, politics is politics, (zan)

you are suggesting that waiting for an "adversary" to change is a better choice than acts which in doing them yourself, makes you stronger. Being up to the RoC to solve this problem, blaming them for its growth from an issue to a Problem is an Internal matter. Whether the EU sites this matter, or that France has shown a particular interest only indicates its importance. However regarding our relationship to the rest of the world, (and our desires), having been isolated from each other, allows Turkish Cypriots to demonstrate the same commitment to values and principals, which Internationally are held in esteem. I am merely proposing that this has become an opportunity missed.

[CopperLine]

Let people move wherever they want. Illegalise borders, not migrants.

Why make searching for a better life illegal ? Why make searching for work illegal ?

People from Cyprus have left the island over the years for a better life or for work elsewhere. People have come to Cyprus over the years for a better life or for work from elsewhere.

No one is illegal. http://www.noii.org.uk/

[Gabira]

Well done Bloody Turks ... you have brought enough illegal immigrants across the "border" to get the attention of France ....

Now you are for it .....

First you invite them with your actions in 1974 and then you complain about it too. Sadly these are all the consequences of GC actions over the decades. TC's are damned if they do and damned if they don't in any case.

Supporting the GC mentality at it's current level is not an option.

Keep the Turks rolling in

[Get Real!]

Well done Bloody Turks ... you have brought enough illegal immigrants across the "border" to get the attention of France ....

Now you are for it .....

First you invite them with your actions in 1974 and then you complain about it too. Sadly these are all the consequences of GC actions over the decades. TC's are damned if they do and damned if they don't in any case.

Supporting the GC mentality at it's current level is not an option.

Keep the Turks rolling in

Can you think of ANYTHING that Turks or Turkish Cypriots are responsible for?

[zan]

...goodwill is goodwill, politics is politics, (zan)

you are suggesting that waiting for an "adversary" to change is a better choice than acts which in doing them yourself, makes you stronger. Being up to the RoC to solve this problem, blaming them for its growth from an issue to a Problem is an Internal matter. Whether the EU sites this matter, or that France has shown a particular interest only indicates its importance. However regarding our relationship to the rest of the world, (and our desires), having been isolated from each other, allows Turkish Cypriots to demonstrate the same commitment to values and principals, which Internationally are held in esteem. I am merely proposing that this has become an opportunity missed.

I have made the distinction already RW....Maybe not clear enough but the politics is what I am talking about and the good will is what you are talking about. France is guilty of saying what we are saying to you...These people are just passing through. The borders are your problem. Why didn't France make all those immigrants return to where they came from and not let them through to the UK...Hypocrites or what!!

[Gabira]

Well done Bloody Turks ... you have brought enough illegal immigrants across the "border" to get the attention of France ....

Now you are for it .....

First you invite them with your actions in 1974 and then you complain about it too. Sadly these are all the consequences of GC actions over the decades. TC's are damned if they do and damned if they don't in any case.

Supporting the GC mentality at it's current level is not an option.

Keep the Turks rolling in

Can you think of ANYTHING that Turks or Turkish Cypriots are responsible for?

No...TC's are 100% absolutely innocent and victims of the whole situation

[Nikitas]

The section of the Green Line between teh Dhekelia base and the occupied area is manned by GC police? Does the GC police force have the right to monitor this part of the Line? Does anyone know anything about the above?