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[miltiades]

your in my country my friend, and you're there as a visitor. i can go and stand in africa and say to myself over and over again that i am standing in america until i am blue in the face, no matter how often i sat it i will still be standing in africa.

You do talk crap dont you mate , so I can be in Ayios Loukas , metaphorically speaking , where I was born , my parents and grandparents and those before them were born and raised , took my first steps there , went to school there and I'm a mere VISITOR . !!! Bullocks !!
You appear either very young or very intelligent !!!!!

[Big Al]

my friend unless you are prepared to sing istiklal marsi and serve in the turkish/north cypriot turkish armed forces then you are a visitor. Ataturk was born in Salonika does that mean that turkey has the right to claim parts of greece??

[Oracle]

your in my country my friend, and you're there as a visitor. i can go and stand in africa and say to myself over and over again that i am standing in america until i am blue in the face, no matter how often i sat it i will still be standing in africa.

Exactly geographically challenged one ... It does not matter what you call it !

When some Aliens invade Earth and call it "Zlob24" ... will we all suddenly be just "visitors" on Earth?

The depth of you vision is so minimal, no wonder your brain is taken over merely, by the functions of breathing and defecating!

[miltiades]

oh look it the old lass, looks like she has woken up from you mid afternoon nap, how are you oracle????
hows those hips and knee's?? you know you should have heaps of calcium because at your age your bones can become brittle

As brittle as your brain cells no doubt !!

[Big Al]

oh look it the old lass, looks like she has woken up from you mid afternoon nap, how are you oracle????
hows those hips and knee's?? you know you should have heaps of calcium because at your age your bones can become brittle

Oh look Big Al is breathing ..... oh now he's defecating ...... Aaahhh, and look at him now breathing again ...... but he's managing to defecate again!... Oooh what a clever boy he is ....... And now I think he's worn out for the day, with all that breathing and defecating, and is ready to lie down .... Don't forget the clean nappy ... he doesn't stop defecating whilst he sleeps ... wish he'd stop breathing though .....

You have lost your marbles, are there any homes we can place you in within your local area?????

[umit07]

1 man 1 vote is acceptable but the ability to say no to sensative issues is a red line for TCs.

Why don't you make a list of the most important items that you would expect to veto with a NO vote, and stick them in the New Constitution. This way, it is agreed by all parties in advance what those red-lines are and upon agreeing to them, the New Constitution is signed.

Any problems with that VP.??

What happens if the GC's think it's unworkable once again?

[zan]

Well , I'm also a professor of medicine , I have a diploma , I printed it my self , it is not recognised but of course it does not mean that I do not exist .I exist , just like the Northern part of Cyprus but no one recognises the "TRNC" as a separate nation created out of war by the occupying power. When I visit the North I'm in my country not in a foreign one !! Every single centimeter of Cyprus is my land , internationally called Cyprus , not Greek or Turkish !

That is a lie....You didn't print it yourself...You convinced the UN to print it for you and now you live the lie!!!!!Well done......


Can I just ask Miltiades......Say you buy a consignment of dodgy knives from China say......You didn't know they were not as good as they said they were and you can't return them. Do you still sell them on and pat yourself on the back as a good salesman or do you bin the lot and swallow the cost.??

[zan]

1 man 1 vote is acceptable but the ability to say no to sensative issues is a red line for TCs.

Why don't you make a list of the most important items that you would expect to veto with a NO vote, and stick them in the New Constitution. This way, it is agreed by all parties in advance what those red-lines are and upon agreeing to them, the New Constitution is signed.

Any problems with that VP.??

What...Like the 13 points that Makarios didn't like...And the one that said OXI to ENOSIS..........People get killed that way

[Tim Drayton]

1 man 1 vote is acceptable but the ability to say no to sensative issues is a red line for TCs.

Why don't you make a list of the most important items that you would expect to veto with a NO vote, and stick them in the New Constitution. This way, it is agreed by all parties in advance what those red-lines are and upon agreeing to them, the New Constitution is signed.

Any problems with that VP.??

What happens if the GC's think it's unworkable once again?

I think it is important to find a settlement that genuinely reflects the self determination of Cypriots themselves. Surely the Zurich and London agreements were imposed on Cyprus from the outside and their main aim was to secure a compromise that would prevent conflict between Greece and Turkey at a time when these two countries formed NATO's southern flank. There was little if no input from the people of Cyprus in these agreements.

Do you really believe that provisions such as geographically separate municipalities were viable under circumstances where in many cases the two communities shared the same geographical space?

This time the terms of a settlement must be framed by Cypriots themselves, and then, yes, there must be a total commitment to abide by them.

[zan]

1 man 1 vote is acceptable but the ability to say no to sensative issues is a red line for TCs.

Why don't you make a list of the most important items that you would expect to veto with a NO vote, and stick them in the New Constitution. This way, it is agreed by all parties in advance what those red-lines are and upon agreeing to them, the New Constitution is signed.

Any problems with that VP.??

What happens if the GC's think it's unworkable once again?

I think it is important to find a settlement that genuinely reflects the self determination of Cypriots themselves. Surely the Zurich and London agreements were imposed on Cyprus from the outside and their main aim was to secure a compromise that would prevent conflict between Greece and Turkey at a time when these two countries formed NATO's southern flank. There was little if no input from the people of Cyprus in these agreements.

Do you really believe that provisions such as geographically separate municipalities were viable under circumstances where in many cases the two communities shared the same geographical space?

This time the terms of a settlement must be framed by Cypriots themselves, and then, yes, there must be a total commitment to abide by them.

I don't agree that there was little or no input by the Cypriots themselves on the Zurich agreement Tim and some others have made this claim on the Annan Plan as well. The interests of all parties were put on the table and thrashed out by all parties including the Cypriots. Makarios was against what the TCs wanted and not just Turkey or the UK or anyone else for that matter.......We signed the agreement happily. You may argue that had things been different and we did not feel threatened then we would have preferred Turkey and Greece out of the picture all together but that is not realistic.