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A while ago Umit asked me to expound on my allusion to memes ...

I'll take it as given that you all have a fairly accurate idea of genes and how they are transmitted .....

Memes are pretty similar, but they are tied up with behavioural elements rather then chemically indisputable genetic elements ....

They are at the forefront of Genetics and Behaviour ..... or Sociobiology! (Maybe Evolutionary Psychology )

As such I think they play an important part in the Cyprus Problem ....

This is because we have two ethnicities ...... and two loads of cultural differences which nearly everybody would agree are different ..... I certainly do!

I consider this mostly a good thing ..... lots of cultural differences ...
etc. ... But there is an occasional clash ....

... Complete incompatibility...

On the one hand we have the Hellenic inspired memes of Arts, Poetry, Painting, Pottery, Peace, philosophy, Mathematics, Democracy, Writing, Science ... you guessed it ... the GCs

And on the other hand, we have the :

Land-grabbing, selfish, lazy, heathen, uneducated Barbarians ..... you guessed it ... the Turk-TCs ....

So what of these two cultures could be united, merged, mitigated, annihilated, expounded ...... in order to gain the Perfect Cypriot ...

What combination of Memes handed down to us by Turks and Greeks could make the CYPRIOT the ultimate Human being?

[zan]

I think the main difference is that the Greeks took other nations as their own (As long as they had something that the Greeks could boast about and use the Greek name for) and made the world believe that these people were ACTUALLY GREEK. The Turks, on the other hand, allowed cultures, religions and identities of others to flourish so that they could claim it for them selves and for their creed. Call it naive on the Turkish side but I think we will all believe honest.



What is it with you and Memes any way....Are yours small and you have Meme envy???

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Zan the man ... the forum dunce ... has failed to see the significance ...

Umit wants to know why GCs are so important , ... whilst TCs are struggling to gain recognition on the World stage ...

We are analysing the nitty gritty ....

[zan]

Zan the man ... the forum dunce ... has failed to see the significance ...

Umit wants to know why GCs are so important , ... whilst TCs are struggling to gain recognition on the World stage ...

We are analysing the nitty gritty ....

Christian verses muslim...Analised...Did you enjoy it..........Stella de Fella!!!!

[zan]

A Greek member of the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) was slammed in a Greek newspaper Sunday for voting in favor of the “Turkish Association of Xanthi,” and the “Union of Turkish Women of Rodopi” in Western Thrace using the term “Turkish” to identify themselves.

The Greek ECHR judge, Petros Pararas, was one of the Greek prime minister's “men” according to Greek daily To Proto Thema. With his ECHR vote Pararas “condemned” Greece, wrote the paper caustically, and gave cause for “Muslims of Western Thrace” to celebrate on the streets crying: “Turks by court decision.”

According to the ruling of the ECHR, passed last week, Greece is legally obligated to recognize all new associations that use references to their Turkish nationality. While at the turn of the century Muslims, most of whom are of Turkish origins, were referred to as Turks, after the Turkish intervention in northern Cyprus in 1974, the Greek government fearing that Turkey may claim part of Western Thrace, started calling them "Muslims of Western Thrace." In 1991 they gave the right to individuals to self-identify as Turks, but not to groups. As a result, the Greek courts have rejected all applications for “Turkish” associations.

“Even if I would have voted against, or asked for an exemption, nothing would have changed,” To Proto Thema quoted Pararas.

“The right to call themselves Turks is a human right and it's their right,” CHP Parliamentarian Onur Öymen told the Turkish Daily News yesterday. The community of Turkish origins Muslims has been calling itself Turk all along, “so now they can call themselves by their original name,” said Öymen. “We are not calling the Greeks of Istanbul “Orthodox Christians,” so why should the Turks of Western Thrace not be called Turks?” he asked. Öymen was skeptical as to whether Greece would honor the ECHR verdict, explaining that in other cases it had turned a blind eye. “It's a positive decision and I hope the Greeks will honor it,” he said.

Legally speaking, the Greek government has no choice said Costas Tsitselikis, an expert on the Turkish minority issue in Greece and professor at the University of Macedonia in Thessaloniki. “In both cases the ECHR is saying that the reference to “Turkey” does not give the right to a democratic society to refuse the establishment of an association,” he said. The professor said probably the Turkish minority would try to invest in the rulings saying they have the right to call the whole community Turkish. “There will be antagonism and confrontation,” said Tsitselikis and added that the issue with the associations was symbolic of deeper problems and neglect in the community. “After 25 years of court rulings, I think the verdict is in accordance with human rights and it's time for both sides to look into the real issues of the minority in Western Thrace.”

DAMARIS KREMIDA
ISTANBUL – Turkish Daily News
http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/arti ... sid=100587

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[zan]

Wasup Stells??? Made too much sense for you to carry on this bullshit???

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Zan ... you do not display the necessary memes Turkish or otherwise to pursue this line of enquiry ...

Scuttle off and post somebody else's opinion because you clearly do not have one of your own ....

[zan]

Zan ... you do not display the necessary memes Turkish or otherwise to pursue this line of enquiry ...

Scuttle off and post somebody else's opinion because you clearly do not have one of your own ....

Your Memes need implants love....When they pick the ones you have got off your belly button anyway........


Your theory has died at the first hurdle my lovely Stella......Say goodbye and let it rest in peace!!!

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Zan ... you do not display the necessary memes Turkish or otherwise to pursue this line of enquiry ...

Scuttle off and post somebody else's opinion because you clearly do not have one of your own ....

Your Memes need implants love....When they pick the ones you have got off your belly button anyway........


Your theory has died at the first hurdle my lovely Stella......Say goodbye and let it rest in peace!!!

Stupid Zan ... Ti's not my theory ... but Dawkin's ... save for the fact that all recent scientific findings can add to his hypothesis ....

You are so behind with the times ... little Turk ..... another Nasty Turkish Meme methinks

[zan]

Zan ... you do not display the necessary memes Turkish or otherwise to pursue this line of enquiry ...

Scuttle off and post somebody else's opinion because you clearly do not have one of your own ....

Your Memes need implants love....When they pick the ones you have got off your belly button anyway........


Your theory has died at the first hurdle my lovely Stella......Say goodbye and let it rest in peace!!!

Stupid Zan ... Ti's not my theory ... but Dawkin's ... save for the fact that all recent scientific findings can add to his hypothesis ....

You are so behind with the times ... little Turk ..... another Nasty Turkish Meme methinks

I said your theory as in the interpretation and the presentation of the particular facts......It's not my fault that you chose wrongly.......I can feel your shame though...By the way...Are your family real Greeks or just highjacked Gypsies from Russia.....